Ladies who lift diet?

Hi there! I recently started a heavy lifting routine and I was wondering what those of you who have lost weight with heavy lifting are eating. I am hungry all the time ad try to start each day with a protein shake. Are you eating carbs? I am building muscle but not losing fat :(

TIA
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  • rbcrawford1
    rbcrawford1 Posts: 29 Member
    Hey! I lift heavy and have lost 20+ net since I started. For reference, I lift three times a week and usually have another day or two of either a cardio class or HIIT. I lost very slowly at first until I added about 600 calories, bringing my daily intake on average to about 1600-1700 (I'm 5'2" and 132 lbs). I eat every 2-3 hours and make sure I have plenty of protein and high quality fat. The cleaner, the better. I follow every lifting session with a shake made of whey protein and juice (the only time I drink juice). I don't deny myself a cheat snack or meal, but my general rule is it has to be high quality: no M&Ms, but have a gourmet truffle. Make it worth it and make it with better ingredients!

    Sample meals/snacks:

    Whole wheat wrap with chicken or turkey, 1/2 an avocado, handful of shredded cheese, baby spinach, and salsa
    Scrambled eggs (2 usually) with avocado, cheese, and salsa
    (You might see a trend in my ingredients)
    Salmon and cauliflower
    Whole wheat waffle with peanut butter and a glass of milk
    Small whole wheat Quesadilla made with handful of cheese, salmon or chicken or black beans, and spinach
    Apple with almond butter or cheese
    Cottage cheese with cinnamon and raisins
    Peanut butter and banana sandwich
    Homemade beef with broccoli
    Spinach salad with berries, feta, and nuts
    Olives
    Handful of almonds or cashews

    I highly recommend Dave's Killer Bread--great way to get high quality grains with 6 grams of protein a slice. There are also great recipes out there for muffins and pancakes with oats, whole wheat flour, and flax with little sugar.

    Some heavy lifters are drawn to Paleo, but my life would be sad without dairy. Bonus: eating smaller meals more often has made my previously-brutal heartburn disappear.

    ETA: My trainer, who's great, has instilled upon me the following rule: If you are hungry, eat.
  • cafeaulait7
    cafeaulait7 Posts: 2,459 Member
    Does losing inches count? Since I started my lifting I've lost 2 lbs total (in months), lol, but the inches part shows much more loss where I want to lose. I try to eat as much protein as I can and I don't worry about a lot else in what I eat except getting all the vitamins, minerals, etc. The fats I like tend to be healthy ones, so I don't worry about my levels needing to be low.

    I do eat carbs soon after lifting as I read on this forum, and that is when I'm good and hungry anyway. So I eat a lot of them then, and I have protein sometime afterwards which I also read here.

    My carbs in general aren't high or low, but I aim for slow-metabolizing ones most of the day outside of working out to help my blood sugar spikes/drops (I get hypoglycemic).


    I do TDEE - 10%, basically, with some zig zagging. I'm hoping Scooby's right:

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/gain-muscle-lose-fat/
  • ChancyW
    ChancyW Posts: 437 Member
    I lift moderately heavy and am steadily increasing my weights. I am a vegetarian so the diet is a bit more difficult for me to get my macros where I want them.

    I am also steadily losing weight and eating 1700-1800 cals a day.

    Please feel free to add me. It's harder to find girls into weightlifting. Especially with something heavier than 10# :smile:
  • garrisonwife
    garrisonwife Posts: 129 Member
    Lots and lots of chicken. ;-)
  • lawlorka
    lawlorka Posts: 484 Member
    I have just started NROLFW and am doing that 3 days a week. My calorie allowance is 1679 daily and I try land as close to that as possible. On days I lift I make sure I have a protein dense drink after my workout, but it fits into my daily allowance.

    I eat scrambled eggs and lots of chicken!!!!
  • juliewatkin
    juliewatkin Posts: 764 Member
    A typical day for me is

    Breakfast: oatmeal with fruit and protein powder
    Lunch: Tuna, apple, 1/4 cup raw almonds, homemade oat protein bar
    Dinner: Chicken, sweet potato, salad
    Evening snack greek yogourt
  • Hi Shaney
    If you're trying to loose weight, heavy weights isn't for you. Try lifting less but more reps. I've recently gained arm muscle but I want to reduce my size - so I've reduced the weight, but added more reps which will help to loose weight rather than add on muscle.
    Eating more is good (as long as it's the right foods of course) as you need to replace the energy your muscles are using to repair.
  • Stage14
    Stage14 Posts: 1,046 Member
    Hi Shaney
    If you're trying to loose weight, heavy weights isn't for you. Try lifting less but more reps. I've recently gained arm muscle but I want to reduce my size - so I've reduced the weight, but added more reps which will help to loose weight rather than add on muscle.
    Eating more is good (as long as it's the right foods of course) as you need to replace the energy your muscles are using to repair.

    No. Lifting heavy is great for losing weight while retaining muscle and it is nearly impossible for a woman to gain muscle while in a calorie deficit. I lift heavy (doing NROLFW), eat my TDEE - 15%, and aim for 80-100g of protein per day. I have been averaging around 1.5lbs per week loss plus losing inches and lowering my BF%.
  • Hi Shaney
    If you're trying to loose weight, heavy weights isn't for you. Try lifting less but more reps. I've recently gained arm muscle but I want to reduce my size - so I've reduced the weight, but added more reps which will help to loose weight rather than add on muscle.
    Eating more is good (as long as it's the right foods of course) as you need to replace the energy your muscles are using to repair.

    No. Lifting heavy is great for losing weight while retaining muscle and it is nearly impossible for a woman to gain muscle while in a calorie deficit. I lift heavy (doing NROLFW), eat my TDEE - 15%, and aim for 80-100g of protein per day. I have been averaging around 1.5lbs per week loss plus losing inches and lowering my BF%.

    Yes.
    She is trying to loose weight.... heavier weights = bigger muscles = heavier on the scales. It might reduce size and reduce b/f yes, but that's not what she's asking.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    I eat every 2-3 hours .....

    If you like doing that, then continue.
    But you don't have to.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member

    Yes.
    She is trying to loose weight.... heavier weights = bigger muscles = heavier on the scales. It might reduce size and reduce b/f yes, but that's not what she's asking.

    It is really hard for women to put on muscle.....so in her case, I doubt that would happen.

    If anything, she would prolly "re-comp" her body....
    So on the scale she may weigh the same (my guess is she wouldn't), but where she put on muscle, she burnt through fat.....
    So she will look more toned and defined.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Hi there! I recently started a heavy lifting routine and I was wondering what those of you who have lost weight with heavy lifting are eating. I am hungry all the time ad try to start each day with a protein shake. Are you eating carbs? I am building muscle but not losing fat :(

    TIA

    Have you figured out what your TDEE is?
    And what your macro break down should be?
  • rduhlir
    rduhlir Posts: 3,550 Member
    Hi Shaney
    If you're trying to loose weight, heavy weights isn't for you. Try lifting less but more reps. I've recently gained arm muscle but I want to reduce my size - so I've reduced the weight, but added more reps which will help to loose weight rather than add on muscle.
    Eating more is good (as long as it's the right foods of course) as you need to replace the energy your muscles are using to repair.

    No. Lifting heavy is great for losing weight while retaining muscle and it is nearly impossible for a woman to gain muscle while in a calorie deficit. I lift heavy (doing NROLFW), eat my TDEE - 15%, and aim for 80-100g of protein per day. I have been averaging around 1.5lbs per week loss plus losing inches and lowering my BF%.

    Yes.
    She is trying to loose weight.... heavier weights = bigger muscles = heavier on the scales. It might reduce size and reduce b/f yes, but that's not what she's asking.

    Heavier weight = bigger muscles = heavier scales....true. But that will take years for a women to do.

    But not when you are in a calorie deficit. It takes women almost 3 times as long to put on muscle as it does a man. Why? Because we don't have a set of jigglies down there. Testosterone is what allows a man to put on muscle so fast. Women only have a minute level of it. All those photos you see of women who are super super bulky have either A) bulked and cut for YEARS or B) are on performance enhancers.
  • I don;t think I necessarily lift heavy, but when I first started out, I was ravenous all the time. I didn't lose weight when I started lifting, but I went down 2 jeans sizes. The crazy hunger thing does level off. Now I eat gobs of peanut butter just to up my calories.
  • rduhlir
    rduhlir Posts: 3,550 Member
    Hi there! I recently started a heavy lifting routine and I was wondering what those of you who have lost weight with heavy lifting are eating. I am hungry all the time ad try to start each day with a protein shake. Are you eating carbs? I am building muscle but not losing fat :(

    TIA

    How long have you been doing this? What is your current calorie intake? Being generally hungry all the time usually means you aren't feeding yourself enough. I eat 1700 calories a day and that is with running 20+ miles a week and the strength training I currently do, and that is still with a 20% calorie cut from my TDEE.

    I fell away from a consistant heavy lifting to complete my half marathon training. But I am getting back into it now. I only do 2 days a week as I am not worried about the gaining strength, but more of the muscle retention.

    With the building muscle part...if you are in a calorie deficit I don't see it happening in the way you think it is. Takes women a long time to build muscle, and while you will definately get newbie gains those will stop pretty early on, and it won't be long to stop completely in a calorie deficit. Don't confuse this with strenght gain. You can get stronger and not gain muscle.

    I am going to agree with MityMax and say look at your calorie intake and what you are actually intaking. Look at your macros and if lifting is the way you are going to go then really focus on getting that protein in to promote muscle repair. And make sure you are eating enough.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    Lifting is great for losing weight. In the 6 weeks I've been lifting I have lost 3lbs...1/2lb a week right on target for my TDEE settings.

    My body is changing dramtically...even my sister who sees me frequently notices the changes.

    I eat appx 1600 calories a day (when I am not starved) my diary is open. I have my protien set at 120g a day (I try for 125-130). I start my day with either 2eggs+2 egg whites+ meat and milk or a fruit smoothie with protien powder+protein shake+fruit+almond milk+flax seed. The rest of my day is protien heavy as well. Lost of chicken, pork, cheese, bars etc and Yes I do have treats as well in there.

    I only lift 3x a week.

    You will not "gain" muscle eating at a deficet. You will lose weight, you will lose inches, you will notice changes in your body (I am so loving my butt today) and you will get stronger. rduhlir an MityMax are correct look at your macros and try to eat 1 gram of protien for each lb of LBM (lean body mass) which you get by finding your bf%...

    Again feel free to check my diary.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    Hi Shaney
    If you're trying to loose weight, heavy weights isn't for you. Try lifting less but more reps. I've recently gained arm muscle but I want to reduce my size - so I've reduced the weight, but added more reps which will help to loose weight rather than add on muscle.
    Eating more is good (as long as it's the right foods of course) as you need to replace the energy your muscles are using to repair.

    No. Lifting heavy is great for losing weight while retaining muscle and it is nearly impossible for a woman to gain muscle while in a calorie deficit. I lift heavy (doing NROLFW), eat my TDEE - 15%, and aim for 80-100g of protein per day. I have been averaging around 1.5lbs per week loss plus losing inches and lowering my BF%.

    Yes.
    She is trying to loose weight.... heavier weights = bigger muscles = heavier on the scales. It might reduce size and reduce b/f yes, but that's not what she's asking.

    losing weight on the scale isn't (or at least shouldn't be) the objective. The objective is to be fitter, healthier and look better... well all that happens as a result of reducing the body fat percentage. For some, they will reduce their body fat percentage while the weight on the scale stays the same. And while most people say "I want to lose weight" what they tend to mean is "I want to be a smaller dress size" - weight training while eating at a sensible deficit will achieve that. Refusing to lift weights because you would rather see a smaller number on the scale than actual progress in terms of how your body looks and what size clothes you fit into, is utterly missing the point.
  • Stage14
    Stage14 Posts: 1,046 Member
    Hi Shaney
    If you're trying to loose weight, heavy weights isn't for you. Try lifting less but more reps. I've recently gained arm muscle but I want to reduce my size - so I've reduced the weight, but added more reps which will help to loose weight rather than add on muscle.
    Eating more is good (as long as it's the right foods of course) as you need to replace the energy your muscles are using to repair.

    No. Lifting heavy is great for losing weight while retaining muscle and it is nearly impossible for a woman to gain muscle while in a calorie deficit. I lift heavy (doing NROLFW), eat my TDEE - 15%, and aim for 80-100g of protein per day. I have been averaging around 1.5lbs per week loss plus losing inches and lowering my BF%.

    Yes.
    She is trying to loose weight.... heavier weights = bigger muscles = heavier on the scales. It might reduce size and reduce b/f yes, but that's not what she's asking.

    No, actually heavier weights = the muscles store extra water initially to help with repair = temporarily heavier on the scales. It's water weight, it goes away. Heavy weight training does not build new muscle unless you pair it with a calorie surplus. That's just simple physics. Your body cannot create matter put of nothing.

    What heavy weight training does is increase the efficiency of your current muscles (strength), burns fat instead of muscle, and increases your BMR, allowing you to burn more calories at rest. It also tends to give most women the body they imagined they would have after dropping X lbs but then end up not having through diet alone and protects against health issues like osteoporosis.
  • Hollywoodm55
    Hollywoodm55 Posts: 155 Member
    Does anyone know how long the water weight sticks around? I have gained a few lbs since restarting my lifting. I am not going to stop lifting, just curious.
  • kristen2713
    kristen2713 Posts: 253 Member
    bumping to read later...sounds like some good info I'd love to hear about!!
  • MrsB123111
    MrsB123111 Posts: 535 Member
    bump for later
  • Stage14
    Stage14 Posts: 1,046 Member
    Does anyone know how long the water weight sticks around? I have gained a few lbs since restarting my lifting. I am not going to stop lifting, just curious.

    Mine lasted about 2 weeks initially. When I had to take a short break for a couple of weeks, I had about 2lb gain but it was gone in 3 or 4 days.
  • rduhlir
    rduhlir Posts: 3,550 Member
    Does anyone know how long the water weight sticks around? I have gained a few lbs since restarting my lifting. I am not going to stop lifting, just curious.
    The first few weeks, I gained about 3-4 lbs in water weight. Then all that slid off after about a week or so. And the water weight I get now after my lifting is about 2-3 lbs that sheds after about a day or so.
  • micheleb15
    micheleb15 Posts: 1,418 Member
    Don't stop lifting - that would be the biggest mistake you make. I just started to put more effort in my foods and I lift heavy 3-4 times a week.
    Today looks like this: 1600 calories

    B-Coffee, Ezekiel English muffin, egg, cheese and sausage sandwich
    L-Salad with chicken breast and avocado
    S-Frozen mango and pineapple with greek yogurt
    D-Cajun pork chop, zucchini and garlic/olive oil couscous
    Dessert depends on how many calories I have left. Could be 2 oreos with 1/2 cup of milk or could be sauteed apple with cinnamon and whipped cream.
  • KatrinaWilke
    KatrinaWilke Posts: 372 Member
    Hi there! I recently started a heavy lifting routine and I was wondering what those of you who have lost weight with heavy lifting are eating. I am hungry all the time ad try to start each day with a protein shake. Are you eating carbs? I am building muscle but not losing fat :(

    TIA

    I eat alot, all of the time. I eat over 2000 calories a day! Are you eating carbs? OF COURSE!!!! Lots of carbs! It's my favorite food group, well second to ICE CREAM! I also do endurance MTB racing so I need the carbs.

    How do you know you are building muscle and not losing fat? Are you basing this off of the scale or have you had your BF% measured?
  • Mischievous_Rascal
    Mischievous_Rascal Posts: 1,791 Member
    Hi Shaney
    If you're trying to loose weight, heavy weights isn't for you. Try lifting less but more reps. I've recently gained arm muscle but I want to reduce my size - so I've reduced the weight, but added more reps which will help to loose weight rather than add on muscle.
    Eating more is good (as long as it's the right foods of course) as you need to replace the energy your muscles are using to repair.

    No. Lifting heavy is great for losing weight while retaining muscle and it is nearly impossible for a woman to gain muscle while in a calorie deficit. I lift heavy (doing NROLFW), eat my TDEE - 15%, and aim for 80-100g of protein per day. I have been averaging around 1.5lbs per week loss plus losing inches and lowering my BF%.

    Yes.
    She is trying to loose weight.... heavier weights = bigger muscles = heavier on the scales. It might reduce size and reduce b/f yes, but that's not what she's asking.

    No, actually heavier weights = the muscles store extra water initially to help with repair = temporarily heavier on the scales. It's water weight, it goes away. Heavy weight training does not build new muscle unless you pair it with a calorie surplus. That's just simple physics. Your body cannot create matter put of nothing.

    What heavy weight training does is increase the efficiency of your current muscles (strength), burns fat instead of muscle, and increases your BMR, allowing you to burn more calories at rest. It also tends to give most women the body they imagined they would have after dropping X lbs but then end up not having through diet alone and protects against health issues like osteoporosis.

    ^^^ Well said. Please lift (progessively) heavier weights. :) I am the same weight as I was last year, but two sizes smaller. Scales are bad measuring tools for women who lift.

    As for food, I used this calculator to get my calorie target of 1975/day (TDEE -15%) with my macros set at 40C/30P/30F (I try not to get below 120-130g of protein a day):

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/

    I'm also practicing two forms of IF, with my eating window from 1-10 pm each day, 2285/day for five days and 1200/day on my two rest days.

    Best of luck!
  • loricshields47
    loricshields47 Posts: 134 Member
    Lifting is great~good for you. it is possible to gain muscle and loose fat at the same time, just takes a little longer to show on the scale. Be sure you are eating enough for both to happen (I'm 5'2, 113lbs and 51 i aim to eat 1800+ cals a day! ) Be sure your protein macro is about 1gram per lb of body weight. I eat 20 grms minimum every 3-4 hours- max. A shake after each work out and yes lots of chicken! Prepare as much ahead as you can to make it easier in a busy life.
    Wholegrain foods ~ fish a couple times a week is a great way to get high protein and low cal. Cottage chees at bedtime is awesome (fix it anyway you like (I have a1/3 of a 500gr container with fruit every night :) Cheat once a week at one meal and enjoy it.
    My best advice is get a tape measure and get rid of the scales. I know thats a tough one so aim for only one weigh in a month. Relax believe in the process and gage your results by how you feel in your clothes and forget about everyone elses results. We are all unique and change at our own rate. Make your cardio short and sweet ~20-30 mins hiit 3-4 times a week is perfectThis is my approach , find the one that works for you.
    best of luck and have fun
  • SuperCrsa
    SuperCrsa Posts: 790 Member
    Hi Shaney
    If you're trying to loose weight, heavy weights isn't for you. Try lifting less but more reps. I've recently gained arm muscle but I want to reduce my size - so I've reduced the weight, but added more reps which will help to loose weight rather than add on muscle.
    Eating more is good (as long as it's the right foods of course) as you need to replace the energy your muscles are using to repair.

    NO!!!!

    My profile pic is now 6 weeks of lifting. I am on a program that gradually increases the weights and reduces the reps. I am in phase 2 now of 6-8 reps of as heavy as I can go. I love it! And I am losing not just weight as in the scale, BUT Incredible cms and my body just looks so much better than ever before! I cant wait to shed the rest of my weight through calorie control.

    I upped the proteins a lot, so I have a protein shake, I eat eggs, chicken and meats! A lot!
    I eat anything and everything as long as I get them in my calorie goals.
  • sabified
    sabified Posts: 1,035 Member
    Bump for the ideas!
    Starting to lift weights though am not heavy yet... still eating at 1200 but I know I'll need to up that once I'm more intense...
  • awise19
    awise19 Posts: 154 Member
    I am just going to add in to this, because it is very annoying and I'm sorry if someone hates me for this.

    But it is Losing... Not loosing. I see this all the time and it is one of my biggest pet peeves.

    Anyway, please don't stop lifting. You are looking to lose BF so lifting is a great way to do that.

    A day for me
    I do a meal replacement in the morning with fruit because I have to be at work very early.
    Then for lunch I do a 5oz peice of chicken, 2 cups of broccoli and 1 cup of mixed fruit.
    Dinner, I usually change it up quite often. But tonight I am eating about 4-5oz of lean thin cut steak, 2 over easy eggs because I love the yolk, it is like a sauce and aspargus and grade tomatos.
    Then I drink between 160-180 oz of water a day.

    If you want to do the protein shake, you should drink that right after your workout.