Running for weightloss

Nice balanced article about muscle gains from running: http://www.livestrong.com/article/398355-does-running-gain-muscle/

The article stated that running doesn't create large muscle gains, but that it could build for the relatively low level runner (which means it wouldn't be substationl, which wouldn't stall, nor raise the scale for OP). Yes, any "new" workout regimine (running, lifting, 30DS) can come with some "noob gains", but on cardio alone would be pretty minimal. Still a gain, but minimal.

And that sprinting can build more substantial. (agreed).

But hey, whatever floats your boat right?

And this was your initial post to OP in this thread:

Op isn't gaining muscle from running

Article says: "However, that does depend somewhat on your starting size and shape, as well as the type of running you're doing. In certain conditions and at a relatively low level, running can build muscles in your legs."

You are cherry picking and moving the goal posts. Hey, 'whatever (apparently) floats your boat', I guess. I am more interested in being factual. As I originally stated, and as others in this thread have stated, you can and DO build muscle in your legs when you begin a running program. Period.

Nice balanced article about muscle gains from running: http://www.livestrong.com/article/398355-does-running-gain-muscle/

The article stated that running doesn't create large muscle gains, but that it could build for the relatively low level runner (which means it wouldn't be substationl, which wouldn't stall, nor raise the scale for OP). Yes, any "new" workout regimine (running, lifting, 30DS) can come with some "noob gains", but on cardio alone would be pretty minimal. Still a gain, but minimal.

And that sprinting can build more substantial. (agreed).

But hey, whatever floats your boat right?

And this was your initial post to OP in this thread:

Op isn't gaining muscle from running

Article says: "However, that does depend somewhat on your starting size and shape, as well as the type of running you're doing. In certain conditions and at a relatively low level, running can build muscles in your legs."

You are cherry picking and moving the goal posts. Hey, 'whatever (apparently) floats your boat', I guess. I am more interested in being factual. As I originally stated, and as others in this thread have stated, you can and DO build muscle in your legs when you begin a running program. Period.

And Just as the article states, not everyone does gain muscle from starting a program. The article itself has qualifiers (starting size, condition etc..), and the article itself is far from a medical study or paper. It's over two years old, and the same website has an article from 2013 that states cardio can burn muscle in a poorly fueled body. Per the OP's net gain, poorly fueled, So no, not period.

Someone may be able to enlighten me here! I'm the same...began to run more and incorporate it with stronglifts, some interval training after those sessions, maybe spin and netball after my weight session. I'm currently eating around 1400-1500 calories, and I don't eat back exercise calories. I use a hrm and average around 350-400 calories for a 6k run. I too am not losing, nor are my measurements reducing. My diary is open too. I've also recently cut back on alcohol too, drink about two litres of water per day and weigh my food with a digital scale.

Nice balanced article about muscle gains from running: http://www.livestrong.com/article/398355-does-running-gain-muscle/

The article stated that running doesn't create large muscle gains, but that it could build for the relatively low level runner (which means it wouldn't be substationl, which wouldn't stall, nor raise the scale for OP). Yes, any "new" workout regimine (running, lifting, 30DS) can come with some "noob gains", but on cardio alone would be pretty minimal. Still a gain, but minimal.

And that sprinting can build more substantial. (agreed).

But hey, whatever floats your boat right?

And this was your initial post to OP in this thread:

Op isn't gaining muscle from running

Article says: "However, that does depend somewhat on your starting size and shape, as well as the type of running you're doing. In certain conditions and at a relatively low level, running can build muscles in your legs."

You are cherry picking and moving the goal posts. Hey, 'whatever (apparently) floats your boat', I guess. I am more interested in being factual. As I originally stated, and as others in this thread have stated, you can and DO build muscle in your legs when you begin a running program. Period.

And Just as the article states, not everyone does gain muscle from starting a program. The article itself has qualifiers (starting size, condition etc..), and the article itself is far from a medical study or paper. It's over two years old, and the same website has an article from 2013 that states cardio can burn muscle in a poorly fueled body. Per the OP's net gain, poorly fueled, So no, not period.

Well, since you refuse to acknowledge your own inconsistencies in this thread, I am done! Period.

Running does build muscles. You may be losing inches - take your measurements periodically.

I ran for a year (5 miles per run) with little change to my weight. However, I lost almost 2 pants sizes that same year.

I run up and down rollercoaster hills - a great calorie boost and muscle workout. For a killer butt/thigh workout, run up the hill backwards.

I also ate 1200 calories a day (more or less) for years and found my stubborn weight confounding. I was very careful but nothing worked.

To finally budget the scale, what worked for me was going on a Shaklee shake diet. First week was only shakes/bars for every meal, and then I started the regular program (shakes/bars for 2 meals, regular meal for 1). Now I'm down 10 pounds and another size. I've been at the maintenance stage for a couple of months (same weight) and am preparing for another 10 pound plunge soon.

Taking measurements (something I'd never done before) was so encouraging. Some weeks the scale wouldn't budge but several measurements showed progress (lost fat weight/gained muscle weight). This gave me positive reinforcement (and stamina) every week regardless of what the scale said.

Good luck.

You can definitely use running as a tool for weight loss. I have been running since March and have lost quite a bit of weight during that time. However, I also pay attention to what I eat. It sounds from what you have said that you may be taking in too few calories. If you are eating 1300 and burning an extra 400, your net calorie intake is only 900 calories. That's probably not enough for you. Try upping your calories and see what happens. FWIW, I eat between 1500-1700 and am losing fairly steadily.

With respect to the "no you can't/yes I can" argument about building muscle from running, is it possible that the "yes I can" person has lost fat so the existing musculature is more visible? I absolutely believe that running can help in that respect - I know it has for me. My leg muscles show up much more now because I've eliminated a lot of fat.

Muscles showing up does not mean gaining more muscle. I would think you could maybe build some leg muscle, but not upper body. Pro marathon runners are pretty thin.