Min Cals for men?

Right now im eating net 1500 and eating all my exercise calories - think this is enough? Could I possibly drop to 1200?
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  • tilmoph
    tilmoph Posts: 72 Member
    Could you? Sure, absolutely, no one is gonna stop you.

    Now should you? Uhhh... bit trickier. Are you obese? I did 1200 when I was below morbid obese but stil obese, and it worked fine for me. With less to lose, it seems sort of pointless, being way more likley to cost you LBM for no real gain, since you have less body fat to spend on calorie deficits. Plus, getting enough protein can be a bit rough.

    Like I said, I did it, hell, I did less then 1200 to get out of morbid, and I'm doing 1500 now, so I'm not about to ***** you out for doing it, if you'd like. But do note that it's probably sub optimal, you'll prolly feel a bit hungry, and also (less importantly) that you're gonna get yelled at by other posters. Expect to see the phrase "ruined metabolism" and "starvation" tossed around.

    One last note, the standard min is 1800/day, I think.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Why not go for a cool 1,000?
  • Why not go for a cool 1,000?
    cuz ur a troll
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    Better question...Why the hell would you want to eat 1200 calories? You're a man....
  • GingerLolita
    GingerLolita Posts: 738 Member
    Your personal minimum is what MFP says you should be eating to lose two pounds per week.
  • DavePFJ
    DavePFJ Posts: 212 Member
    If I sit on my *kitten* all day at a desk, I can maintain at around 2000 calories. I'm 5'8" and 155 lbs.
  • Better question...Why the hell would you want to eat 1200 calories? You're a man....
    I used to be anorexic so I still have a bit of that mentality - im doing 1500 - I run 5 miles 3-4x a week so far and I feel pretty good on that amount.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Why not go for a cool 1,000?
    cuz ur a troll

    Not a troll. You just seem determined to eat as little as possible and promote it to other people.
  • Pidgeywendy
    Pidgeywendy Posts: 32 Member
    Why not go for a cool 1,000?
    cuz ur a troll

    Not a troll. You just seem determined to eat as little as possible and promote it to other people.

    I agree....I've watched the posts recently from the OP (some of which have been pulled by MFP staff) and they clearly promote an unhealthy mind set :-(
  • OK do you guys really think 1200 is unhealthy? Im at 1500 cals now and its going slow slow slow... Ive run 40-50 miles a week on 1200 calories and was in perfect health. The reason Im doing 1500 now is that I had weird psych effects and mood swings which I attribute to a lack of fat which probably lead to a massive deficiency in testosterone and other hormone production. But compared to when I was doing 1200 cals Im losing weight at maybe half the rate - though I do feel much healthier, both physically and mentally.
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    OK do you guys really think 1200 is unhealthy? Im at 1500 cals now and its going slow slow slow... Ive run 40-50 miles a week on 1200 calories and was in perfect health. The reason Im doing 1500 now is that I had weird psych effects and mood swings which I attribute to a lack of fat which probably lead to a massive deficiency in testosterone and other hormone production. But compared to when I was doing 1200 cals Im losing weight at maybe half the rate - though I do feel much healthier, both physically and mentally.

    seek help.
  • FredDoyle
    FredDoyle Posts: 2,272 Member
    Well, let's see. I'm a man, 5'-7". When I was 40 years old, and for medical reasons (a hernia operation) I had to lose 30 lbs.
    The doctors put me on 1400 cals/day for a maximum of two months without exercise.
    Do you think with your stats, and without a medical need to speed up the time period you should be eating 1200 cals/day?
  • Well, let's see. I'm a man, 5'-7". When I was 40 years old, and for medical reasons (a hernia operation) I had to lose 30 lbs.
    The doctors put me on 1400 cals/day for a maximum of two months without exercise.
    Do you think with your stats, and without a medical need to speed up the time period you should be eating 1200 cals/day?
    Haha point taken - 1500 it is...
  • Mokey41
    Mokey41 Posts: 5,769 Member
    Well, let's see. I'm a man, 5'-7". When I was 40 years old, and for medical reasons (a hernia operation) I had to lose 30 lbs.
    The doctors put me on 1400 cals/day for a maximum of two months without exercise.
    Do you think with your stats, and without a medical need to speed up the time period you should be eating 1200 cals/day?
    Haha point taken - 1500 it is...

    Try 1800 net and you'll be there.
  • cdahl383
    cdahl383 Posts: 726 Member
    I don't think eating 1200 calories a day is healthy at all for a guy unless you're on a supervised diet with your doctor or something. Secondly, why would you want to restrict your calories so much?

    I think a healthier and more sustainable approach would be to calculate your TDEE, subtract 20% from that, and eat at that level for a week or two. Weigh yourself, check your progress, if you're losing around 1-2 lbs a week then you're in good shape, if not, adjust accordingly until you get there.

    Not only is that healthier for you, but you'll feel much better as well and will still get to enjoy eating. You'll still get to your goal over time, and most likely without sacrificing as much muscle mass as your current approach.

    I'm losing around 1 lb a week currently eating 2300 calories a day, no way I could handle 1200 calories a day, I'd be starving all day long.
  • The issue for me with is that 1200 is FAST - I've lost 14 lbs in 1.5 weeks using 1200 cal diet with no carbs plus walking. Sure a lot is water but 14 lbs is very noticeable. I started running and eating 1500 cals and I lost about 7 lbs since 10/15 .... Kinda slow after you've lost 25lbs in a month and a half before on 1200 cals plus running.
  • cdahl383
    cdahl383 Posts: 726 Member
    The issue for me with is that 1200 is FAST - I've lost 14 lbs in 1.5 weeks using 1200 cal diet with no carbs plus walking. Sure a lot is water but 14 lbs is very noticeable. I started running and eating 1500 cals and I lost about 7 lbs since 10/15 .... Kinda slow after you've lost 25lbs in a month and a half before on 1200 cals plus running.

    It's fast but also unhealthy. 14 lbs in 1.5 weeks is insane weight loss. Out of that 14 lbs probably only 2-4 lbs of that was actual fat, most of it probably being water weight, and the rest being muscle mass which is bad.

    If you've been on this site for a while and have read up on weight loss and other health related topics then you know that losing much more than 2-3 lbs a week is simply unhealthy and not recommended. The approach you're taking is not healthy.

    I've lost 14 lbs but it's been over about 12 weeks. It's slower, but it's almost all been fat as my lifts have all gone up since a couple months ago and my pants are looser while my shirts are tighter in my chest/shoulder/arm areas. If you slow the weight loss down, you should lose mostly fat which is what you really want to lose. You want to keep as much muscle as possible when losing weight.

    The other issue with losing so fast is you can't get very many nutrients in your body when you're only taking in 1200 calories a day, or even 1500 for that matter. How much protein can you take in with only 1500 calories? What about vitamins, minerals, healthy fats, etc? Those are also important for your body.

    Do what you think is best, but its common knowledge that losing weight that fast is unhealthy and not recommended. Good luck to you.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    The issue for me with is that 1200 is FAST - I've lost 14 lbs in 1.5 weeks using 1200 cal diet with no carbs plus walking. Sure a lot is water but 14 lbs is very noticeable.

    It's almost ALL water.

    Which means you haven't accomplished anything other than dehydrating your body.

    Which means it's ALL coming right back.
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    The issue for me with is that 1200 is FAST - I've lost 14 lbs in 1.5 weeks using 1200 cal diet with no carbs plus walking. Sure a lot is water but 14 lbs is very noticeable. I started running and eating 1500 cals and I lost about 7 lbs since 10/15 .... Kinda slow after you've lost 25lbs in a month and a half before on 1200 cals plus running.

    It's fast but also unhealthy. 14 lbs in 1.5 weeks is insane weight loss. Out of that 14 lbs probably only 2-4 lbs of that was actual fat, most of it probably being water weight, and the rest being muscle mass which is bad.

    If you've been on this site for a while and have read up on weight loss and other health related topics then you know that losing much more than 2-3 lbs a week is simply unhealthy and not recommended. The approach you're taking is not healthy.

    I've lost 14 lbs but it's been over about 12 weeks. It's slower, but it's almost all been fat as my lifts have all gone up since a couple months ago and my pants are looser while my shirts are tighter in my chest/shoulder/arm areas. If you slow the weight loss down, you should lose mostly fat which is what you really want to lose. You want to keep as much muscle as possible when losing weight.

    The other issue with losing so fast is you can't get very many nutrients in your body when you're only taking in 1200 calories a day, or even 1500 for that matter. How much protein can you take in with only 1500 calories? What about vitamins, minerals, healthy fats, etc? Those are also important for your body.

    Do what you think is best, but its common knowledge that losing weight that fast is unhealthy and not recommended. Good luck to you.

    quoting again to drill it home.
  • Maybe you guys are right... but 1500 seems to be working gikd for me - my endurance increased from 1.5 miles Downhill @ 11 min pace to 4.5 miles half uphill yesterday @ 10 min/pace since 10/15. I've lost a total of about 10lbs since 10/15 which is about 3.3 lbs a week. The difference in noticing is that compared to 1200 cals I have a much stabler mood which is why I didn't want to do 1200 anyway... I'll see how the weightloss continues
  • cdahl383
    cdahl383 Posts: 726 Member
    I bet you'd feel even better at 1800 calories a day and probably still lose 2.5-3 lbs a week at that level. Could fit in more nutrients that way as well.

    Good luck!
  • I'm experimenting - I had two cheat days this week BC of special occasions so I'm thinking I should just do 1500 and utilize cheat days to keep my body from adjusting to low cals. But yeah the effects of the extra 300 cals are remarkable - I've improved my endurance much faster than when I ate 1200 and I feel good mentally
    Whenever I lose weight @ 1200 I get these anxiety attacks and depressed states that aren't fun and I used excessive running as the way to treat those effects. I think I'm finally getting out of the speed is everything mentality :)
  • Chevy_Quest
    Chevy_Quest Posts: 2,012 Member
    Hello .. I started at 5'7" and weighed over 200 lbs. Before I used to try to lose eating 1000-1200 and not eating back my exercise. I lost 25 got "weak" and gained it all back.

    Now I am down 20 lbs by eating over 2000 per day. I eat back most of my exercise calories and I am constantly setting personal bests in cardiovascular activities.
  • markpmc
    markpmc Posts: 240 Member
    The issue for me with is that 1200 is FAST - I've lost 14 lbs in 1.5 weeks using 1200 cal diet with no carbs plus walking. Sure a lot is water but 14 lbs is very noticeable. I started running and eating 1500 cals and I lost about 7 lbs since 10/15 .... Kinda slow after you've lost 25lbs in a month and a half before on 1200 cals plus running.

    You'll get a few marathon vs. sprint quotes soon ...

    I'm willing to bet that you've sacrificed muscle mass for weigh loss. Great job on the rapid 25 lbs. lost. Now try to slow things down a bit.
    Cardio will make you look good in your clothes, but weight lifting will make you look good neeked.
  • Thanks for your input guys - Im considering upping the cals. Right now without my shirt I look pretty good cuz my muscles are starting to show more from losing weight. Looks much better than when I lost it all from the 1200 and excessive running phase I was in last year. Im gonna consider lifting soon.
  • cdahl383
    cdahl383 Posts: 726 Member
    Lifting weights is definitely a good idea!
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,458 Member
    1800.

    Thank you MFP:

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  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    I'm 5'10" and oldish....pushing 40...I lost easily grossing 2100 - 2200 calories...my MFP goal was 1850 plus exercise and I lost a good 1 - 1.5 Lbs per week consistently throughout my weightloss.
  • You will perform better with more carbs and weight lifting... Trust me... I play a doctor on TV and can run 2 miles in sub 14min at 190lbs 5'10, with a 265-275 Bench Press, 335 Squat, 365 Deadlift; which is NOT IMPRESSIVE... I ran a Marathon in June as well, and climbed Mailbox Peak 5 days after. Basically, it's about being a badass, not about dieting yourself into Mr. Twig and Ms. Pencil. What's your height and weight? If your 5'10 and below 200 I'll tell you to climb steep *kitten* mountains, go for journeys, destroy your legs through stairs, sprints, prowlers, hill sprints and marathons, and lift heavy, and eat like a man. Time to put some octane in that fuel son.
  • Lift NOW