Does lifting weights create a greater deficit?

You need to seek professional help for your eating disorder.

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Additionally, I would like to add that no exercise should be done just to burn calories.

Exercise selection should be wiser than that. Weight loss should be a dietary thing. Exercise improves you by increasing your performance against certain metrics.

It's time people got out of the shallow calorie burn approach to exercise.

No.

Ummm... okay?

Sorry, I should explain. I don't think anybody needs any high and lofty reason to work out. Burning calories is a perfectly legit reason to exercise. Should there be some type of diet control? Absolutely. But many people exercise just so they can eat more, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Ah, I see. Sorry, had my telepathy turned off this morning!

What happens is something like people do a massive amount of calorie burning activity to support their eating habits. Then a holiday happens. Or injury happens. Or sickness. Or they have kids. Or a bereavement happens. Etc, etc. Then they can no longer sustain that high level of calorie burn due to another factor. But they continue to "eat all the foods" because they have used exercise as a tool for calorie management and failed to make habitual changes - thus they undo everything they've achieved through strapping themselves into an elliptical 6 times a week.

There's nothing wrong with it. But it's unsustainable over a whole life. So you're basically doing it for a month? A year? Then what?

And, I might add, having lofty goals isn't a bad thing. So I don't know why you're trying to pitch that as a negative!

I do agree that using exercise as the ONLY form of calorie control is problematic, at best. There does need to be diet modification is almost every weight loss situation.

Also, I don't think that there is anything at all wrong with high and lofty goals, I have many myself and think they are wonderful! All I'm saying is that they aren't required in this situation.

Well, I opened up on the original theme in the thread because it had probably gone as far as it could go in it's current form and there are interesting things to say about it that often go unsaid.

But it seems like we agree after all!

Welllll...not to split hairs (I at least hope to do amicably), but you drew a pretty hard line that no exercise should be done for the sole purpose of burning calories, with which I disagreed.

After reviewing your profile, I would highly suggest you consult a more-appropriate health professional.

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Additionally, I would like to add that no exercise should be done just to burn calories.

Exercise selection should be wiser than that. Weight loss should be a dietary thing. Exercise improves you by increasing your performance against certain metrics.

It's time people got out of the shallow calorie burn approach to exercise.

No.

Ummm... okay?

Sorry, I should explain. I don't think anybody needs any high and lofty reason to work out. Burning calories is a perfectly legit reason to exercise. Should there be some type of diet control? Absolutely. But many people exercise just so they can eat more, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Ah, I see. Sorry, had my telepathy turned off this morning!

What happens is something like people do a massive amount of calorie burning activity to support their eating habits. Then a holiday happens. Or injury happens. Or sickness. Or they have kids. Or a bereavement happens. Etc, etc. Then they can no longer sustain that high level of calorie burn due to another factor. But they continue to "eat all the foods" because they have used exercise as a tool for calorie management and failed to make habitual changes - thus they undo everything they've achieved through strapping themselves into an elliptical 6 times a week.

There's nothing wrong with it. But it's unsustainable over a whole life. So you're basically doing it for a month? A year? Then what?

And, I might add, having lofty goals isn't a bad thing. So I don't know why you're trying to pitch that as a negative!

I do agree that using exercise as the ONLY form of calorie control is problematic, at best. There does need to be diet modification is almost every weight loss situation.

Also, I don't think that there is anything at all wrong with high and lofty goals, I have many myself and think they are wonderful! All I'm saying is that they aren't required in this situation.

Well, I opened up on the original theme in the thread because it had probably gone as far as it could go in it's current form and there are interesting things to say about it that often go unsaid.

But it seems like we agree after all!

Welllll...not to split hairs (I at least hope to do amicably), but you drew a pretty hard line that no exercise should be done for the sole purpose of burning calories, with which I disagreed.

Ha ha!

I guess I did come off as pretty hardline, didn't I? Before my morning coffee probably! Calorie burn as a secondary goal is fine. As the primary goal? Even if we're on the way towards harmony rather than discord - I can't agree to it!

But I'm a grumpy old *kitten*, so it's probably best to just ignore me!

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Additionally, I would like to add that no exercise should be done just to burn calories.

Exercise selection should be wiser than that. Weight loss should be a dietary thing. Exercise improves you by increasing your performance against certain metrics.

It's time people got out of the shallow calorie burn approach to exercise.

No.

Ummm... okay?

Sorry, I should explain. I don't think anybody needs any high and lofty reason to work out. Burning calories is a perfectly legit reason to exercise. Should there be some type of diet control? Absolutely. But many people exercise just so they can eat more, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Ah, I see. Sorry, had my telepathy turned off this morning!

What happens is something like people do a massive amount of calorie burning activity to support their eating habits. Then a holiday happens. Or injury happens. Or sickness. Or they have kids. Or a bereavement happens. Etc, etc. Then they can no longer sustain that high level of calorie burn due to another factor. But they continue to "eat all the foods" because they have used exercise as a tool for calorie management and failed to make habitual changes - thus they undo everything they've achieved through strapping themselves into an elliptical 6 times a week.

There's nothing wrong with it. But it's unsustainable over a whole life. So you're basically doing it for a month? A year? Then what?

And, I might add, having lofty goals isn't a bad thing. So I don't know why you're trying to pitch that as a negative!

I do agree that using exercise as the ONLY form of calorie control is problematic, at best. There does need to be diet modification is almost every weight loss situation.

Also, I don't think that there is anything at all wrong with high and lofty goals, I have many myself and think they are wonderful! All I'm saying is that they aren't required in this situation.

Well, I opened up on the original theme in the thread because it had probably gone as far as it could go in it's current form and there are interesting things to say about it that often go unsaid.

But it seems like we agree after all!

Welllll...not to split hairs (I at least hope to do amicably), but you drew a pretty hard line that no exercise should be done for the sole purpose of burning calories, with which I disagreed.

Ha ha!

I guess I did come off as pretty hardline, didn't I? Before my morning coffee probably! Calorie burn as a secondary goal is fine. As the primary goal? Even if we're on the way towards harmony rather than discord - I can't agree to it!

But I'm a grumpy old *kitten*, so it's probably best to just ignore me!

Ha, I can be pretty grumpy, too! I'm not sure that total agreement on every topic is required for harmony...so let's call a truce and agree to disagree?

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I control hunger by eating food. You don't have to be hungry to lose weight...

Wow... That is incredibly helpful.