It's really starting to wear on me. How do I stop it

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  • elisabeisme
    elisabeisme Posts: 308 Member
    Every 3 months, I take a total diet break. Net at maintenance (still log) for one or two weeks. I find it refreshes both my mind and metabolism.
    I'm doing this right now and hope it helps.
  • Kevvboy
    Kevvboy Posts: 81 Member
    When somebody has lost as much weight as you have, her body is likely secreting a hormone called ghrelin. Go Google that and read up on it. What it does is it sort of turns on the "I'm starving" reflex in your body and does as you are saying, makes you obsess about food until you gain the weight back.

    One thing that really helps me a lot - and you don't have to be much of a cook to do this - is to keep a big pot of really healthy soup, usually vegetable, in my fridge at all times. Any time I am REALLY hungry, as opposed to "my wouldnt a donut be good," I can zap a cup of that soup in the microwave and that will eliminate the starving feeling 9 times out of 10. Guilt free.

    Good luck and hang in there. It gets better.
  • bobkat80
    bobkat80 Posts: 347 Member
    I just tell myself it's okay to be hungry. When I do this I acknowledge how I'm feeling without giving in to it. This may not work for everyone, but it works for me.
  • Please research the terms 'satiety' and 'umami'.
    Some foods are naturally more satisfying,
    and will keep you from feeling psychologically hungry.
    Another good research topic is
    'cravings and food allergies'.
    Cue the music : The More You Know!"

    Best wishes!
  • DesireeH
    DesireeH Posts: 7 Member
    I sometimes do that too- where I really focus on a specific meal, or something that I haven't had for a while, and in the end I end up blowing my diet- or at least continually thinking about it. It does get annoying after sometime.

    I am working towards being a neuropsychologist- and psychologically speaking we have learned behaviorally in our society to treat ailments with food: boredom, depression, lack of stimulus, feeling tired (that is the one that really affects me), stress, etc. those voids tend to be treated temporarily with food. When you are having these thoughts about food, take a step back and look at everything else that is going on around you. Are you upset? Bored? If you can target a consistent trend (I typically obsess about certain foods when I'm bored), then you can prepare yourself for it later.

    Most of the readings that I have read say to indulge for just a small amount- say limiting yourself to one cookie, half of a sandwich, etc. Another idea is to have a large glass of water, wait 15 minutes and see how you really feel. If you really are hungry, listen to your body.
  • Oh_Allie
    Oh_Allie Posts: 258 Member
    Are you sure you're not really hungry? I mean, some of it might be boredom/psychological/something, but you're only netting 1200-something calories a day for at least the last week (that's as far back as I looked) and I don't know your stats, but I'd guess that you're probably eating less than you really need and that's what's making you obsessive about food.
  • p4ulmiller
    p4ulmiller Posts: 588 Member
    When you feel hungry, rate it on a scale of 1 to 10.

    Anything less than an 8 means you're not hungry.


    I know I'm not hungry. Not even a 3.
    But I still obsess.

    Ok. Then it's a choice. Everything is a choice.

    Your choices are:
    1. Stay with your calories
    2. Get fat

    Sorry there's no silver bullet.
  • Halfdome11
    Halfdome11 Posts: 4 Member
    It's great that you have been successful to the degree you have at your age - fantastic job! I began to have weight issues at your age, after being a very normal-sized kid and teenager. I wish I had done what I'm doing now way back then.

    As a guy - with two daughters a bit older than you - I'm obviously NOT going to have the same challenges/experiences you'll have as a young woman. I can tell you this - it will be a life-long endeavor, this dealing with eating. I don't say that to discourage you - I firmly believe you can win out over the thoughts, doubts, obsessions!

    What I do think is worth sharing, however, as hard as it seems now, is that it will only get harder - IF you let go and return to your prior patterns. NOW is the best time to conquer the issue - it will never get any easier. Whether you're now fighting boredom, feeling deprived, dealing with depression - you've done the hardest part in losing the weight. This is now the next phase of your battle - take it on with the same passion and dedication that made your first phase so successful!

    I know the feeling where FOOD is your constant thought! It's a necessary part of our lives and can have a powerful influence over us. The thing that I think is helping me most at this point (I'm down 50 pounds, but that's only 1/4 of what I want/need to lose) is CONSTANTLY telling myself that food is "fuel". I used it as a reward, to celebrate, to gain pleasure, etc., for so long, I've had to almost re-program my brain as to what food even is. After 6 months, I'm just now beginning to find my every waking moment isn't just about food.

    But that hasn't happened by trying to distract myself - although keeping myself busy and occupied is very important. I've had to REPLACE one pattern of thinking for another. Trying NOT to think about something is almost impossible. You need to give yourself something to replace that thought with, and while watching a movie or reading a book can temporarily divert your attention, you need to actually put another thought in the vacuum you're trying to fill, or the original thought will just come back. For me, that has been redefining what food is. I'm not sure I can explain it any better than that. I wish you the best!
  • Myhaloslipped
    Myhaloslipped Posts: 4,317 Member
    I agree that pre-logging food works well for people, but for some reason it made me stress about calories even more.
  • wildcatnyc
    wildcatnyc Posts: 2,410 Member
    Go talk to a therapist.
  • parmoute
    parmoute Posts: 99 Member

    I eat every 3 hours. Maybe 4 at the most.
    So I have like 5 - 6 meals a day. Usually pre-planned.
    But I want to eat them one after the other. Or sooner.
    Especially at night. But Even now my dinners not till 5 but I've wanted it since 4.
    When I ate at 2.

    I chug water and I chew gum at night.
    It's just wanting to binge day in an day out.
    I don't know why.

    This was my problem when I first stared counting calories and everyone said eat lots of small meals. I'd plan out my food ahead of time so I knew what I could have for a snack and how much and it all looked great on paper but I was hungry all the time. Just like you said -- maybe I had just eaten, but I was already wondering how long it was until I could eat again.

    Maybe the little meals work for some people, but they didn't work for me. It seemed like it was always just enough food to prevent me from feeling truly hungry but never enough to actually satisfy me. I switched to eating three big meals and skipping the snacks and it helped a lot. Once I ate, I was satisfied (rather than less hungry than before having eaten) and I didn't think about food so much anymore. Lots of water in between meals (and sometimes gum) helped me not feel hungry as soon.

    It may take a week or two to adjust (right now you're used to eating frequently), but it might be worth trying.
  • p4ulmiller
    p4ulmiller Posts: 588 Member

    This was my problem when I first stared counting calories and everyone said eat lots of small meals. I'd plan out my food ahead of time so I knew what I could have for a snack and how much and it all looked great on paper but I was hungry all the time. Just like you said -- maybe I had just eaten, but I was already wondering how long it was until I could eat again.

    The small meals thing is supposedly to prevent insulin spikes. I don't buy into that theory or how it apparently helps fat loss.
  • marla_jones
    marla_jones Posts: 45 Member
    You have not given us your stats, so we can see if the calories you consume are close to your BMR or TDEE! However I can tell you from experience that eating at 1500cal/day is NOT enough to sustain a moderately active person. So there is a really strong possibility that you are not eating enough, thus not getting the nutrients your body needs and well it gives signals in the form of "eating obsession"!!!!! Just a thought!!!
  • janer4jc
    janer4jc Posts: 238 Member
    The best way to get rid of a bad thought is to replace it with a good one. Change your focus to something else and you can shift your obsession to something else.
  • PrettyPearl88
    PrettyPearl88 Posts: 368 Member
    90% of the time I am not physically hungry.
    But I am psychologically.
    I might have even just eaten less than a few hours ago.
    But I obsess and think about eating my next meal 24/7.
    I can't even watch a movie or stay distracted, I'm still thinking about it.
    Just wanna eat all the time.
    It's gotten worse over my weight loss.

    Anyone else..or is it just me. It's starting to wear on me.
    I can't take thinking about eating anymore.
    Even when I was over weight I would eat when I was hungry.
    I wouldn't worry about when my next meals coming.

    Blah.

    How long are you waiting in between meals? I had that same problem and I realized it was because I was waiting 5-6 hours AT LEAST in between meals. (It wasn't uncommon for me to go 8-9 hours in between meals actually.) I had just been raised that way and thought that's what everyone else did and that's what you were supposed to do. That was also one of the reasons I gained weight in the first place: because I would wait so long in between meals, I was STARVING when it was meal time, so I scarfed down my food really fast and as a result, over-ate by A LOT. So I was used to eating huge portions at meals and as a result, I wouldn't get hungry until 4-5 hours later. But when I started eating smaller portions at meals, that all changed; the smaller portion didn't keep me satisfied as long and I would notice that I'd be hungry 2 hours later and I thought I that I was some crazy, disgusting pig for feeling that way. Well, turns out I'm not. It's actually perfectly normal and healthy, if you eat a small meal, to be hungry for a small snack 2 hours later.

    Anyway, I broke that habit and now I MAKE SURE to eat every 2-4 hours. If I just had a meal two hours ago and I'm hungry, then I have a small, healthy snack. It has really helped me not to feel hungry all the time and manage my weight. So if that's your problem, try what I did! :smile:
  • Makoce
    Makoce Posts: 938 Member
    You have not given us your stats, so we can see if the calories you consume are close to your BMR or TDEE! However I can tell you from experience that eating at 1500cal/day is NOT enough to sustain a moderately active person. So there is a really strong possibility that you are not eating enough, thus not getting the nutrients your body needs and well it gives signals in the form of "eating obsession"!!!!! Just a thought!!!

    I'm 5'2. 113lbs. 21yrs. Female.
    I think my bmr is 1219 and my maintenance is like 1463 or something.
  • I get that way too, though it hasn't been constant. For me, it is usually triggered by not eating enough for a while, or being so consumed by the diet that I feel restricted. It makes me feel stressed out and depressed, so I incessantly crave more food. Last time this lasted for about a month. I was eating 2000 calories a day, but constantly wanted more. So I took a week or two off, didn't log anything, and just ate whatever I wanted. When I came back to logging, I didn't gain any weight, but had my sanity back. Maybe for you also, you just need a mental break from the obsession to feel normal again.

    Alternatively, maybe you want to try eating bigger meals. In my experience, when I've spread out my calories throughout the day, I never felt like I had really eaten. I just didn't get the psychological satisfaction. When I eat bigger meals, I am able to forget about food for a longer period of time.

    Hope you find the answer!
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member

    Even when I was over weight I would eat when I was hungry.
    I wouldn't worry about when my next meals coming.

    Blah.

    If you're not overweight anymore, why aren't you eating when you're hungry?

    You won't answer this and you pre-plan your meals despite not dieting. Maybe it's time to start eating like a normal person-- don't pre-plan, don't log, eat when you're hungry. Obsessing about food could be caused by obsessing about food, y'know? It is possible to maintain your weight without obsessing and counting and pre-planning.
  • p4ulmiller
    p4ulmiller Posts: 588 Member
    Maybe it's time to start eating like a normal person

    Excuse me? A "normal person"?

    Offensive much?
  • JesterMFP
    JesterMFP Posts: 3,596 Member
    Have you tried increasing your caloric intake? The closer you get to goal, the closer you should be eating to your TDEE. Maybe it's your body trying to tell you something.

    Not saying this is the issue, but it might be worth a shot.

    I know I'm eating too few calories since I'm close to goal and I've been bumping it up 10 - 20 calories a day.
    But. I'm usually not hungry when I'm craving food anyway. Donno.
    It looks like your goal is 1250 a day? That's quite low. It may be as simple as increasing your cals a bit. A bit more than you have already.
  • Makoce
    Makoce Posts: 938 Member
    Have you tried increasing your caloric intake? The closer you get to goal, the closer you should be eating to your TDEE. Maybe it's your body trying to tell you something.

    Not saying this is the issue, but it might be worth a shot.

    I know I'm eating too few calories since I'm close to goal and I've been bumping it up 10 - 20 calories a day.
    But. I'm usually not hungry when I'm craving food anyway. Donno.
    It looks like your goal is 1250 a day? That's quite low. It may be as simple as increasing your cals a bit. A bit more than you have already.

    Well to maintain I think I need around 1463, so I get nervous upping them.
    Because I just started losing again after a few months of a plateau.
    They were at 1200, but Ive upped it to 1250 slowly.
    Im thinking of getting to 1300 at the least?
    Since I only have a little more to lose.
    Im nervous to be so close to my maintenance number, you know?
  • Makoce
    Makoce Posts: 938 Member

    Even when I was over weight I would eat when I was hungry.
    I wouldn't worry about when my next meals coming.

    Blah.

    If you're not overweight anymore, why aren't you eating when you're hungry?

    You won't answer this and you pre-plan your meals despite not dieting. Maybe it's time to start eating like a normal person-- don't pre-plan, don't log, eat when you're hungry. Obsessing about food could be caused by obsessing about food, y'know? It is possible to maintain your weight without obsessing and counting and pre-planning.

    The way I stated it originally meant that I didn't care about the calories I was eating, therefore; it was easier to just eat when I was hungry and go 5 - 6 hours between eating and not worry about it. Obviously I was over weight because of portion size.
    Since Ive been logging, now Im conscious and aware, so it complicates things.

    As far as despite not dieting, I am am. Im at a deficit to lose weight, still - and even though I obsess, the meals every few hours is significantly better than means every 5 - 6 hours, because of said issue at hand.

    Many people eat this way ... so I dont really think Im eating outside of a "normal persons" standards.

    I totally get what you're saying otherwise.
  • cafeaulait7
    cafeaulait7 Posts: 2,459 Member
    You've been under maintenance for how long now? That's bound to make you think about food more than when you'll get to eat more :D That's why I hate having to have a deficit, lol.

    Even 150-200 calories a day makes a huge difference to my body with its hunger signals. It's kinda crazy that way since lots of folks don't have that happen, but it's true :)

    You say you aren't hungry, but you might be, I expect. You are eating so close to your BMR that I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't just plain hungry.

    To play with the hormone signals, I think I'd have at least one day a week at maintenance (for your goal weight is fine since you are so close). Honestly, I think I'd just move on to goal weight maintenance levels overall if I were you. But you can cycle it instead of slowly adding a few calories daily to move it up, and you'll feel better, I think.

    The speed of a 're-feed day' helping is very fast, so that's the good part. If I eat a little bit above maintenance one day a week, I'm so not hungry after that my weekly calorie averages have actually gone down by a nice amount. I'm just not hungry, which is an awesome thing for me, lol! Try it! You'll know quickly if it helps or not :)
  • Makoce
    Makoce Posts: 938 Member
    You've been under maintenance for how long now? That's bound to make you think about food more than when you'll get to eat more :D That's why I hate having to have a deficit, lol.

    Even 150-200 calories a day makes a huge difference to my body with its hunger signals. It's kinda crazy that way since lots of folks don't have that happen, but it's true :)

    You say you aren't hungry, but you might be, I expect. You are eating so close to your BMR that I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't just plain hungry.

    To play with the hormone signals, I think I'd have at least one day a week at maintenance (for your goal weight is fine since you are so close). Honestly, I think I'd just move on to goal weight maintenance levels overall if I were you. But you can cycle it instead of slowly adding a few calories daily to move it up, and you'll feel better, I think.

    The speed of a 're-feed day' helping is very fast, so that's the good part. If I eat a little bit above maintenance one day a week, I'm so not hungry after that my weekly calorie averages have actually gone down by a nice amount. I'm just not hungry, which is an awesome thing for me, lol! Try it! You'll know quickly if it helps or not :)


    Been losing now for almost a year.
    I have a significant amount of belly fat to still cut down...otherwise I would switch
  • Siansonea
    Siansonea Posts: 917 Member
    Maybe it's time to start eating like a normal person

    Excuse me? A "normal person"?

    Offensive much?

    This. Why would anyone want to be a "normal person"? Normal people are really, really weird. :tongue:
  • Siansonea
    Siansonea Posts: 917 Member
    You've been under maintenance for how long now? That's bound to make you think about food more than when you'll get to eat more :D That's why I hate having to have a deficit, lol.

    Even 150-200 calories a day makes a huge difference to my body with its hunger signals. It's kinda crazy that way since lots of folks don't have that happen, but it's true :)

    You say you aren't hungry, but you might be, I expect. You are eating so close to your BMR that I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't just plain hungry.

    To play with the hormone signals, I think I'd have at least one day a week at maintenance (for your goal weight is fine since you are so close). Honestly, I think I'd just move on to goal weight maintenance levels overall if I were you. But you can cycle it instead of slowly adding a few calories daily to move it up, and you'll feel better, I think.

    The speed of a 're-feed day' helping is very fast, so that's the good part. If I eat a little bit above maintenance one day a week, I'm so not hungry after that my weekly calorie averages have actually gone down by a nice amount. I'm just not hungry, which is an awesome thing for me, lol! Try it! You'll know quickly if it helps or not :)


    Been losing now for almost a year.
    I have a significant amount of belly fat to still cut down...otherwise I would switch

    I think you need to switch to body composition, rather than weight loss. If you've still got "belly fat", but you're at a normal weight, you just need to tone up a bit. Forget cardio, you need yoga or pilates, or something of that sort. Something that will strengthen your core.
  • kimosabe1
    kimosabe1 Posts: 2,467 Member
    fiber one bars fill u up & make u poop. Double SCORE!!!
  • Makoce
    Makoce Posts: 938 Member
    fiber one bars fill u up & make u poop. Double SCORE!!!

    Actually, those dont fill me up at all :(
  • Makoce
    Makoce Posts: 938 Member
    You've been under maintenance for how long now? That's bound to make you think about food more than when you'll get to eat more :D That's why I hate having to have a deficit, lol.

    Even 150-200 calories a day makes a huge difference to my body with its hunger signals. It's kinda crazy that way since lots of folks don't have that happen, but it's true :)

    You say you aren't hungry, but you might be, I expect. You are eating so close to your BMR that I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't just plain hungry.

    To play with the hormone signals, I think I'd have at least one day a week at maintenance (for your goal weight is fine since you are so close). Honestly, I think I'd just move on to goal weight maintenance levels overall if I were you. But you can cycle it instead of slowly adding a few calories daily to move it up, and you'll feel better, I think.

    The speed of a 're-feed day' helping is very fast, so that's the good part. If I eat a little bit above maintenance one day a week, I'm so not hungry after that my weekly calorie averages have actually gone down by a nice amount. I'm just not hungry, which is an awesome thing for me, lol! Try it! You'll know quickly if it helps or not :)


    Been losing now for almost a year.
    I have a significant amount of belly fat to still cut down...otherwise I would switch

    I think you need to switch to body composition, rather than weight loss. If you've still got "belly fat", but you're at a normal weight, you just need to tone up a bit. Forget cardio, you need yoga or pilates, or something of that sort. Something that will strengthen your core.

    I just started strength straining last week as well ( if you can call it that, i feel like I dont know what Im doing ), but I still do cardio - just not as much.
  • NatsLady
    NatsLady Posts: 17 Member
    I tried the fasting, didn't work for me. Got severe headaches and dizziness, was worried about driving. Maybe you have to do it when you are able to stay home.