Eating all my calories

Hi, I'm new to this and only started on Monday. I've been allocated 1200 calories a day but due to the exercise I do, this increases by anything up to another 1200 calories (just on certain days, not everyday!) Should I be eating all of these calories or not? I normally finish the day with about 700/800 calories in credit.

I'm presuming that if I want to lose weight, I need to burn off more than I'm eating so to have credit at the end of the day is a good thing.
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  • Phoenix_Warrior
    Phoenix_Warrior Posts: 1,633 Member
    You're supposed to net 1200, so you eat back exercise. However, mfp overestimates burns from exercise, so eating back about half would be closer to reality, unless you have a heart rate monitor.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I think it's highly unlikely you're burning an extra 1200 calories from exercise regularly. How are you determining that number?
  • uconnwinsnc
    uconnwinsnc Posts: 1,054 Member
    A 1200 calorie burn is a like playing a full, 40 minute college D1 basketball game. I don't want to doubt the difficulty of your workout, but I think you might be overestimating your calories burned.
  • MinnieInMaine
    MinnieInMaine Posts: 6,400 Member
    You're supposed to net 1200, so you eat back exercise. However, mfp overestimates burns from exercise, so eating back about half would be closer to reality, unless you have a heart rate monitor.

    This!

    And cute hair! :)
  • Insanity Burns 1000 Calories if you work hard at it per session.
    So I think its possible.

    I'm stuck on the same boat too as I have been told I need to eat about 2800 calories to lose weight and 2120 for extreme weight loss which is for people classed as extremely over weight.

    My BMI is 31.5 which falls into obesity.

    And I'm finding it so hard to do insanity as the week goes on because my legs are still aching from the first day.
    I cant do push ups either.

    I've been eating weetabix - 2 of them with semi skimmed milk no sugar

    Tuna Sandwiches with a pack of cheese and onion crisps. White bread.

    And Potato Wedges (Frozen) and Chicken Dippers (Frozen)

    Can anyone help me out and tell me if this is an alright diet?
  • JesterMFP
    JesterMFP Posts: 3,596 Member
    You're supposed to net 1200, so you eat back exercise. However, mfp overestimates burns from exercise, so eating back about half would be closer to reality, unless you have a heart rate monitor.
    ^This. You're supposed to hit your goal, not aim to come under it on a regular basis. Your calorie deficit is built into that goal. However, 1200 calories for a workout sounds very high. What are you doing, and for how long? Definitely be wary of eating those calories back, especially if you're using the MFP database to estimate burn. However, you should be eating at least a portion of them back.
  • I am using the mfp info for my exercise burn - Monday was 45 minutes power walking and 50 minute step session with floor exercises afterwards. Yesterday was 90 minutes powerwalking (to work and back) and a 55 minute zumba session last night. Today was 90 minutes power walking carrying a 2kg weight in each hand. I did wonder if the mfp burn was a bit high so I'm probably doing the right thing by not eating all of my calories.

    Thanks for the advice :)
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I am using the mfp info for my exercise burn - Monday was 45 minutes power walking and 50 minute step session with floor exercises afterwards. Yesterday was 90 minutes powerwalking (to work and back) and a 55 minute zumba session last night. Today was 90 minutes power walking carrying a 2kg weight in each hand. I did wonder if the mfp burn was a bit high so I'm probably doing the right thing by not eating all of my calories.

    Thanks for the advice :)

    Two things:

    1) Yes, you should eat all your exercise calories back.
    2) MFP seems to be overestimating your calorie burn by a significant margin. I'd knock about a third off your calorie burn estimates.
  • I've just googled a few websites to see what they say about calories burned at a step class or a zumba class and mfp is giving a similar figure. The fact that my weight is morbidly obese means I will burn more calories that somebody who weighs less than me. I'm actually fairly fit for an extremely fat person so can keep up the intensity in the classes - I just need to stop eating so much crap and combine those once a week classes with other stuff!
  • Orion625
    Orion625 Posts: 1 Member
    I don't doubt the 1200 exercise figure. Just depends on how long you are doing an activity. I can easily burn 800+ calories in one 35 min run (5-6 miles)
  • JesterMFP
    JesterMFP Posts: 3,596 Member
    I've just googled a few websites to see what they say about calories burned at a step class or a zumba class and mfp is giving a similar figure. The fact that my weight is morbidly obese means I will burn more calories that somebody who weighs less than me. I'm actually fairly fit for an extremely fat person so can keep up the intensity in the classes - I just need to stop eating so much crap and combine those once a week classes with other stuff!
    It is true that a larger, and less fit person will burn more than a smaller and fitter person. Still be wary though; I'd maybe go for about 2/3 of the amount. Of course, you should be able to tell if it's the right amount over time by whether or not you're losing at the rate you expect to.

    If you struggle to get those calories in, you can aim to eat more calorie dense foods like cheese, nuts, seeds, nut butters, full fat dairy, olive oil etc. Alternatively, you could cut back a little on the amount of exercise you're doing.
  • If you struggle to get those calories in, you can aim to eat more calorie dense foods like cheese, nuts, seeds, nut butters, full fat dairy, olive oil etc. Alternatively, you could cut back a little on the amount of exercise you're doing.
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    haha I wish I was struggling to get all the calories in - it's quite scary when you see everything listed just how many calories I'm having in milky coffees (skimmed milk), yoghurts, stuff that you think is healthy! This is certainly a good tool though for bringing it home to you.
  • Hi, I'm new to this and only started on Monday. I've been allocated 1200 calories a day but due to the exercise I do, this increases by anything up to another 1200 calories (just on certain days, not everyday!) Should I be eating all of these calories or not? I normally finish the day with about 700/800 calories in credit.

    I'm presuming that if I want to lose weight, I need to burn off more than I'm eating so to have credit at the end of the day is a good thing.

    What is your numbers? What is your BMR? How much are you planning on losing a week?
  • mungowungo
    mungowungo Posts: 327 Member

    I've been eating weetabix - 2 of them with semi skimmed milk no sugar

    Tuna Sandwiches with a pack of cheese and onion crisps. White bread.

    And Potato Wedges (Frozen) and Chicken Dippers (Frozen)

    Can anyone help me out and tell me if this is an alright diet?

    Personally I'd be starving and inclined to binge if this is all I was eating - even if you added a occasional piece of fruit and some vegetables - which add bulk and fibre with relatively few calories it might be easier to stick to. Plus I find if I add some protein to breakfast - like an egg or cheese on toast I dont get the munchies mid morning.

  • I've been eating weetabix - 2 of them with semi skimmed milk no sugar

    Tuna Sandwiches with a pack of cheese and onion crisps. White bread.

    And Potato Wedges (Frozen) and Chicken Dippers (Frozen)

    Can anyone help me out and tell me if this is an alright diet?

    Personally I'd be starving and inclined to binge if this is all I was eating - even if you added a occasional piece of fruit and some vegetables - which add bulk and fibre with relatively few calories it might be easier to stick to. Plus I find if I add some protein to breakfast - like an egg or cheese on toast I dont get the munchies mid morning.

    apparently the chicken dippers and wedges should be cut out as they are processed but i dont think my diets that bad.
    but yeah i am extremely hungry
  • hastingsmassage
    hastingsmassage Posts: 162 Member
    Why 1200? have you decided that 1200? You have 70 lbs to lose, it's a long way. Follow MFP settings and start with 1700 maybe? 1lbs a week...
  • SuffolkSally
    SuffolkSally Posts: 964 Member

    I've been eating weetabix - 2 of them with semi skimmed milk no sugar

    Tuna Sandwiches with a pack of cheese and onion crisps. White bread.

    And Potato Wedges (Frozen) and Chicken Dippers (Frozen)

    Can anyone help me out and tell me if this is an alright diet?

    Personally I'd be starving and inclined to binge if this is all I was eating - even if you added a occasional piece of fruit and some vegetables - which add bulk and fibre with relatively few calories it might be easier to stick to. Plus I find if I add some protein to breakfast - like an egg or cheese on toast I dont get the munchies mid morning.

    apparently the chicken dippers and wedges should be cut out as they are processed but i dont think my diets that bad.
    but yeah i am extremely hungry

    If you're seriously eating that, then it's pretty poor nutritionally. I'd set some healthy macro targets for fat, fibre, and protein and work towards them, and consider recommendations for vitamin and mineral intake too. Few people eat perfectly and obsession with food isn't healthy either, but I think you could look after yourself much better with more information and a little effort. The short term bonus is you'll have much more energy and you won't be so hungry!
  • The weetabix is high in fibre according to a few people.
    I've been told by some people to add toast too made from brown bread... but would 50/50 work?

    And the tuna is high in protein and a really healthy substitute for what I used to eat as I would always eat all microwave stuff.

    For the extra things I need like fat etc I get it from chicken/mash etc

    I also used to drink fizzy pop non stop. My favorite was DR Pepper and I'd drink 2, 2 litre bottles a day. I now only drink water and the occasional glass of pure orange juice.
  • staveshabr
    staveshabr Posts: 74 Member
    i was actually thinking the same thing that you are doing a lot of exercise on the days you are exercising and your not eating enough. 1200 calories is like the bare minium to eat just so you wont go into starvation mode i started at 265 pounds i weigh now 248 pounds eating 1800 to 2200 calories a day and exercising and its only been 3 and a half weeks. girl eAt to live!!!! :)
  • mungowungo
    mungowungo Posts: 327 Member
    The weetabix is high in fibre according to a few people.
    I've been told by some people to add toast too made from brown bread... but would 50/50 work?

    And the tuna is high in protein and a really healthy substitute for what I used to eat as I would always eat all microwave stuff.

    For the extra things I need like fat etc I get it from chicken/mash etc

    I also used to drink fizzy pop non stop. My favorite was DR Pepper and I'd drink 2, 2 litre bottles a day. I now only drink water and the occasional glass of pure orange juice.

    Yep 2 weetbix will give you 3.8 grams of fibre (according to their website). I'm not sure what you mean by 50/50 do you mean eat one less weetbix and have a bit of toast instead? Or just have two weetbix and two pieces of toast? It's just more of the same sort of food - ie more wheat.

    Lots of different foods give you fibre - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-97294/How-fibre-favourite-foods-contain.html

    My suggestion would be to have the weetbix and add a piece of fruit (banana or apple or orange whatever) one day and have toast the next day with a boiled egg or cheese and tomato - just mix it up a bit and make it interesting so you don't get bored.

    Agreed tuna is a good source of protein and is yummy - you could switch to brown bread for the sandwiches and if you ditch the packet of crisps you could have a fairly large salad or just add the salad to the sandwich and have a piece of fruit as well - more fibre plus vitamins - especially C which apart from an occasional orange juice I didn't see anywhere in your diet. (And to be honest you'd be better off eating an orange than drinking the juice).

    For dinner if you must have chicken dippers (I had to google what they were and they seem to be the chicken equivalent of a fish finger with 900 kilojoules per five dippers (88 grams in weight) - a 105 gram piece of lean grilled rump steak has 777 kilojoules and I know which I'd rather be eating) - I'd have them, less of the wedges/mash and have vegetables (peas,carrots, beans, broccoli, cauliflower etc whatever you want and frozen is fine and really easy to microwave) instead of some of the potato. You should find that you can eat quite a good quantity of vegetables for the same calorie value of the potatoes and these will fill you up so you are less hungry.

    Plus you don't mention how you cook the wedges or dippers if you fry them the calorie count goes way up. On their own 100g of plain potato wedges has about 123 calories whereas if you fry them 10 wedges have 281 calories. If you are frying them you could pop them in the oven instead and use the "spare" calories for vegetables fruits etc.
  • The weetabix is high in fibre according to a few people.
    I've been told by some people to add toast too made from brown bread... but would 50/50 work?

    And the tuna is high in protein and a really healthy substitute for what I used to eat as I would always eat all microwave stuff.

    For the extra things I need like fat etc I get it from chicken/mash etc

    I also used to drink fizzy pop non stop. My favorite was DR Pepper and I'd drink 2, 2 litre bottles a day. I now only drink water and the occasional glass of pure orange juice.

    Yep 2 weetbix will give you 3.8 grams of fibre (according to their website). I'm not sure what you mean by 50/50 do you mean eat one less weetbix and have a bit of toast instead? Or just have two weetbix and two pieces of toast? It's just more of the same sort of food - ie more wheat.

    Lots of different foods give you fibre - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-97294/How-fibre-favourite-foods-contain.html

    My suggestion would be to have the weetbix and add a piece of fruit (banana or apple or orange whatever) one day and have toast the next day with a boiled egg or cheese and tomato - just mix it up a bit and make it interesting so you don't get bored.

    Agreed tuna is a good source of protein and is yummy - you could switch to brown bread for the sandwiches and if you ditch the packet of crisps you could have a fairly large salad or just add the salad to the sandwich and have a piece of fruit as well - more fibre plus vitamins - especially C which apart from an occasional orange juice I didn't see anywhere in your diet. (And to be honest you'd be better off eating an orange than drinking the juice).

    For dinner if you must have chicken dippers (I had to google what they were and they seem to be the chicken equivalent of a fish finger with 900 kilojoules per five dippers (88 grams in weight) - a 105 gram piece of lean grilled rump steak has 777 kilojoules and I know which I'd rather be eating) - I'd have them, less of the wedges/mash and have vegetables (peas,carrots, beans, broccoli, cauliflower etc whatever you want and frozen is fine and really easy to microwave) instead of some of the potato. You should find that you can eat quite a good quantity of vegetables for the same calorie value of the potatoes and these will fill you up so you are less hungry.

    Plus you don't mention how you cook the wedges or dippers if you fry them the calorie count goes way up. On their own 100g of plain potato wedges has about 123 calories whereas if you fry them 10 wedges have 281 calories. If you are frying them you could pop them in the oven instead and use the "spare" calories for vegetables fruits etc.

    50/50 is a type of bread.
    It's half brown and half white.
    I hate the bits you get in brown bread.

    I love bananas and would love to but the whole reason I'm doing this is because my doctor advised me to cut down on my weight and that my blood pressure was quite high. I've been advised to stay away from bananas because they are high in potassium. (It's a shame because bananas are pretty much the only fruit I absolutely love)

    Would scrambled egg be fine? I don't like boiled egg but haven't tried scrambled egg yet... And what about an omelette?

    I can't stand lettuce so do you have any other suggestions?
    I'm looking to be a bit healthier.

    And all the food is oven cooked/grilled.

    I tried some tinned carrots and they tasted all salty and nasty lol But I usually love carrots in gravy.
    But yes I'd love to eat some fresh meat such as boneless chicken or a steak lol But the prices in the shops by us are so high... It's like £10 for one steak and £6 for one chicken fillet.
    For the dippers its like £1 a box. But I'll definitely try to buy some fresh meat whenever I have the money.

    I'm 6 ft 5 and weigh 18 stone and I'm 18 years old.
    If that will help at all with your suggestions. I'm also a guy.
  • bellevie86
    bellevie86 Posts: 301 Member
    Maybe someone already suggested this but I found it to hard to rely on "estimations" on MFP or any other site. So I bought a HEART RATE MONITOR, Mine was 120$ but you can get a cheaper one for 50$ or so. Mine allows me to put in all my stats so my burn estimate is tailored to my body stats. I'd try that. It would take the guess work out of what your burning and makes your numbers easier. I love mine! Also, 1200 seems VERY high, I'm 27 and man I'd be exhausted if I burned 1200 in exercise alone. I did insanity and the most I burned was 750 ever, but I was SPENT after every session!
  • edmarymom
    edmarymom Posts: 19 Member
    Great advice!
  • mungowungo
    mungowungo Posts: 327 Member
    Logicalreflex who told you that potassium was bad for blood pressure? I hope it wasn't your doctor. Read this -

    http://www.bloodpressureuk.org/microsites/salt/Home/Whypotassiumhelps

    So really bananas shouldn't be a problem. It's the salt you should be avoiding - another reason to ditch the crisps - they usually have a heap of salt. Just read the label on the packet.

    Scrambled egg and omelettes are great food. And you can add tomato or whatever you want to an omelette. Or how about baked beans on toast (just watch the salt and sugar content of the beans) or a banana smoothie if you have a blender (really quick to make too).

    50/50 sounds fine - here in Australia we have white bread with added fibre and no bits - your 50/50 sounds like that - if that's what you like then that's what you should eat - there's no point forcing yourself to eat something that you really don't like.

    Agree about tinned vegetables -blech, which is why I suggested frozen. What I do with them is put them in bowl cover with cling wrap and nuke until they are hot but still crunchy and sweet - a couple of minutes.

    Lettuce can be a bit boring especially iceberg - cos lettuce is better, rocket is spicy and a bit peppery,celery has good crunch value, cucumber and onion go well with tuna. You can even make a salad with raw spinach or silverbeet. And of course tomato (I eat a lot of tomato)

    Ouch at the price of meat - I figure that as you talk about prices in pounds that you're in England? If so do you have an Aldi within easy reach? We have Aldi here and they are so cheap compared to other supermarkets - even the meat.

    But it doesn't have to be steak - you can do lots with minced beef (eg tacos, spag bol with vegetables in the sauce, homemade hamburgers -again with lots of salad on it etc), and sausages are generally cheap - just beware of the fat content.

    The most expensive bit of chicken is always the boneless breast fillet - but whole chickens are usually a lot cheaper - a bit more effort involved here but if you look up on the web at how to joint a chicken it's really not that hard and you could get a few meals out of one chook.

    It's just a matter of experimenting and finding what works for you and keeping it interesting so you don't get bored. If you're constantly hungry and bored with what you're eating it's going to be really hard to stick to your eating plan.
  • CallMeRuPaul
    CallMeRuPaul Posts: 151 Member
    I try to eat up all my calories so I'm never in a deficit. if I gain 600 from exercise, I will eat those right up! NOM, NOM, NOM!

    The numbers in MFP are all wrong so you don't want to use those. Your burn rate is going to be different than someone else's. I have a Polar heart rate monitor that I use when doing any stationary exercises: lifting weights, push-ups, sit-ups, stair stepping, Insanity etc. Then I have a Garmin 310XT when walking, running or biking. I bought a kitchen scale and measure out all of my food. Prior to getting the scale, I was estimating and was completely off. What I thought was a 4 oz. filet of fish was more like 3 oz. What I thought was a 4 oz. piece of chicken was more like 7-8 oz.

    It would do you some good to invest in a kitchen scale and a heart rate monitor.
  • Logicalreflex who told you that potassium was bad for blood pressure? I hope it wasn't your doctor. Read this -

    http://www.bloodpressureuk.org/microsites/salt/Home/Whypotassiumhelps

    So really bananas shouldn't be a problem. It's the salt you should be avoiding - another reason to ditch the crisps - they usually have a heap of salt. Just read the label on the packet.

    Scrambled egg and omelettes are great food. And you can add tomato or whatever you want to an omelette. Or how about baked beans on toast (just watch the salt and sugar content of the beans) or a banana smoothie if you have a blender (really quick to make too).

    50/50 sounds fine - here in Australia we have white bread with added fibre and no bits - your 50/50 sounds like that - if that's what you like then that's what you should eat - there's no point forcing yourself to eat something that you really don't like.

    Agree about tinned vegetables -blech, which is why I suggested frozen. What I do with them is put them in bowl cover with cling wrap and nuke until they are hot but still crunchy and sweet - a couple of minutes.

    Lettuce can be a bit boring especially iceberg - cos lettuce is better, rocket is spicy and a bit peppery,celery has good crunch value, cucumber and onion go well with tuna. You can even make a salad with raw spinach or silverbeet. And of course tomato (I eat a lot of tomato)

    Ouch at the price of meat - I figure that as you talk about prices in pounds that you're in England? If so do you have an Aldi within easy reach? We have Aldi here and they are so cheap compared to other supermarkets - even the meat.

    But it doesn't have to be steak - you can do lots with minced beef (eg tacos, spag bol with vegetables in the sauce, homemade hamburgers -again with lots of salad on it etc), and sausages are generally cheap - just beware of the fat content.

    The most expensive bit of chicken is always the boneless breast fillet - but whole chickens are usually a lot cheaper - a bit more effort involved here but if you look up on the web at how to joint a chicken it's really not that hard and you could get a few meals out of one chook.

    It's just a matter of experimenting and finding what works for you and keeping it interesting so you don't get bored. If you're constantly hungry and bored with what you're eating it's going to be really hard to stick to your eating plan.

    I'll give it a read and yeah my doctor told me to ditch bananas and go with another fruit or veg.

    Baked beans on toast? lol
    thats healthy? lol
    I love that.

    I can't eat cucumber :P but can eat onion if its diced up fine in a curry lol
    I don't actually think we have an aldi nearby I'll have to have a look.

    I will definitely attempt some homemade burgers lol
    I'm used to microwave ones.
    I heard sausages were bad for you lol (My girlfriend and my dad etc told me)
    You can buy sausages cheap aswell.

    I'll try and buy a few bits of chicken :P
    about 3 should do one meal :P

    (Thats the old me)

    I'll stick with half of one now.

    And yeah I don't mind the weetabix but it doesn't really keep me from wanting to eat... just makes me even more hungry.
  • mungowungo
    mungowungo Posts: 327 Member
    Yep the humble baked bean is a health food

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-369042/The-10-super-foods.html

    more reading sorry - there is also more about bananas in the same article.

    And another about baked beans

    http://www.aww.com.au/diet-health/diet-and-nutrition/2008/8/10-things-you-did-not-know-about-baked-beans/

    and

    http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/nutrition/a/resistantstarch.htm - this one is about resistant starch not specifically about baked beans but it turns out beans are one of the best sources of resistant starch.


    Sausages do contain a fair amount of fat but you need a certain amount in your diet. Just don't fry them - prick the skin so the fat can drain away and grill them.

    I've been known to eat a whopping breakfast of eggs, bacon, tomato, onion, spinach and vegetables - not be hungry enough to eat lunch (have maybe an apple for a snack), then have dinner of say steak and vegetables and still be under my calories for the day and I'm losing weight. But that's me - Like I said it's just finding what works for you.
  • Will definitely try it.
    I used to eat fry ups but all the stuff was grilled lol
  • Yep the humble baked bean is a health food

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-369042/The-10-super-foods.html

    more reading sorry - there is also more about bananas in the same article.

    And another about baked beans

    http://www.aww.com.au/diet-health/diet-and-nutrition/2008/8/10-things-you-did-not-know-about-baked-beans/

    and

    http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/nutrition/a/resistantstarch.htm - this one is about resistant starch not specifically about baked beans but it turns out beans are one of the best sources of resistant starch.


    Sausages do contain a fair amount of fat but you need a certain amount in your diet. Just don't fry them - prick the skin so the fat can drain away and grill them.

    I've been known to eat a whopping breakfast of eggs, bacon, tomato, onion, spinach and vegetables - not be hungry enough to eat lunch (have maybe an apple for a snack), then have dinner of say steak and vegetables and still be under my calories for the day and I'm losing weight. But that's me - Like I said it's just finding what works for you.

    Just tried scrambled egg and absolutely do not like it lol
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member

    It is true that a larger, and less fit person will burn more than a smaller and fitter person. Still be wary though; I'd maybe go for about 2/3 of the amount. Of course, you should be able to tell if it's the right amount over time by whether or not you're losing at the rate you expect to.

    ^^this.