KISS
Ophidion
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There is a simple philosophy that I think can and does promote and maintain weight loss,fitness and nutrition
KISS or "Keep it simple, stupid"
Now the premise of this is not meant to be derivative by any means but anyone who is familiar with the forums will often see a constant avalanche of overtly complicated and often incorrect or bad advice based on personal preference or common misconceptions.
A majority of things I put into this thread will be cut & pastes, quotes etc but I will endeavor to provide links,references and thanks to the people that have provided the information.
The following link is self explanatory but it will help you navigate MFP more easily...
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1069278-acronyms-and-terms-for-new-mfp-members-v-6
The following links are provided by both SideSteel & Sarauk2sf who run the group "Eat, Train, Progress" Two of the most helpful members on here and most probably the most reliable group on here for solid advice and feedback.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819925-the-basics-don-t-complicate-it
The link for the "Eat, Train, Progress" group, I highly recommend you join it and read the stickies...
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/10118-eat-train-progress
As far as dietary preferences go you will often see flame wars about who has the "Supreme diet" Paleo, clean, dirty, vegan, vegetarian, Atkins etc it is endless. I think my friend summed it up nicely when it comes to this debate...
This is a quote from a debate about Paleo but I think the reference to adherence is of utmost importance. (Thank you EvgeniZyntx)
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1132695-weight-loss-with-paleo-diet
Basically I am just going over and citing information that other people have already provided (much thanks to them) but it is good both for new comers and people who tend to overwhelm themselves thinking the only way to do it (succeed) is by making it unnecessarily complicated.
Lastly lifting will not turn you into a fridge unless you try damn hard and are dedicated LOL.
For the ladies concerned about bulking...
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/987513-lifting-is-the-most-horrible-thing-to-a-woman-since-twiggy
Good luck.
KISS or "Keep it simple, stupid"
Now the premise of this is not meant to be derivative by any means but anyone who is familiar with the forums will often see a constant avalanche of overtly complicated and often incorrect or bad advice based on personal preference or common misconceptions.
A majority of things I put into this thread will be cut & pastes, quotes etc but I will endeavor to provide links,references and thanks to the people that have provided the information.
The following link is self explanatory but it will help you navigate MFP more easily...
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1069278-acronyms-and-terms-for-new-mfp-members-v-6
The following links are provided by both SideSteel & Sarauk2sf who run the group "Eat, Train, Progress" Two of the most helpful members on here and most probably the most reliable group on here for solid advice and feedback.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819925-the-basics-don-t-complicate-it
The link for the "Eat, Train, Progress" group, I highly recommend you join it and read the stickies...
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/10118-eat-train-progress
As far as dietary preferences go you will often see flame wars about who has the "Supreme diet" Paleo, clean, dirty, vegan, vegetarian, Atkins etc it is endless. I think my friend summed it up nicely when it comes to this debate...
This is a quote from a debate about Paleo but I think the reference to adherence is of utmost importance. (Thank you EvgeniZyntx)
The link the quote came from...This touches an import point in weight loss. The psychological processes that lead to adherence and consistency are essential.
We are social animals that adhere by association to common understood belief clusters. When that association is strong we will tend to adhere better to some basic principles. So belonging to the paleo tribe or the IIFYM tribe or cabbage soup cleanse tribe and supporting the tribe principles leads to better adherence. But at the end of the day, in terms of actual loss, the key foundational element is that there can not be weight loss without a calorie deficit. How you chose to go about that, and how it influences your long term adherence are actually more important that the science behind it (says the scientist).
Paleo is cool, it's an in-cult, has lots of structuring belief systems and fast initial results due to carbohydrate/water loss - much like Atkins, Dukan diets (they are less "in" now), Paleo is lower (if not necessarily low) carb than the standard American diet by what it excludes.
Some of the tribes actually adhere to practices that are intrinsically unhealthy and fail to take a global, long term, if I may use the word "holistic" approach.
Richard's post is on the money. Paleo can be fine and healthy. It isn't necessary. Consistency and a deficit are necessary. But of course I agree with him, I'm part of the IIFYM, Science (capital S), train for fitness, love to eat tribe. We have cookies and beer, do you? :laugh: :drinker:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1132695-weight-loss-with-paleo-diet
Basically I am just going over and citing information that other people have already provided (much thanks to them) but it is good both for new comers and people who tend to overwhelm themselves thinking the only way to do it (succeed) is by making it unnecessarily complicated.
Lastly lifting will not turn you into a fridge unless you try damn hard and are dedicated LOL.
For the ladies concerned about bulking...
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/987513-lifting-is-the-most-horrible-thing-to-a-woman-since-twiggy
Good luck.
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I got you these flowers :flowerforyou:0
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EPIC!0
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Just wanted to add something concerning meal frequency for weight loss...
Lyle McDonald has some great information on it here:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/meal-frequency-and-energy-balance-research-review.html
The take home from Lyle's article, in terms of practicality and application, would probably be this quote, this is Lyle here:
* If eating more frequently makes it easier to control/reduce calories, it will help you to lose weight/fat.
* If eating more frequently makes it harder to control/reduce calories, or makes you eat more, you will gain weight.
* If eating less frequently makes it harder for you to control/reduce calories (because you get hungry and binge), it will hurt your efforts to lose weight/fat.
* If eating less frequently makes it easier for you to control/reduce calories (for any number of reasons), then that will help your efforts to lose weight/fat
Or in other words, personal preference.
Some peer reviewed studies:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19943985
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17483007
The full link...
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/820577-meal-frequency-rev-up-that-furnace-lol
Once again thank you SideSteel and the "Eat, Train, Progress" group.0 -
bump Excellent source of info, thanks for putting it on the main threads.0
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I got you these flowers :flowerforyou:0
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very cool. good information.0
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bump thanks:flowerforyou:0
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Love this!!! Also love the badass women0
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bump because of newest flood of BS flooding forums in last hour.0
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Awesome! Love it!0
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I love it when someone talks common sense and not nonsense. This should be stickied to the introduction link because sometimes, coming in new and confused, it takes a while to sort out what is helpful from the derp. This is helpful.0
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bump one last time...I'm off to bed. -.-zZZZ0
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bump because of newest flood of BS flooding forums in last hour.
The last HOUR? It is a continuous flow. Has it been awhile?
Excellent posts, and I thank you.0 -
Bump for reference.0
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Great post, hopefully people read it and pay attention.
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bump because I forgot about this thread till I saw it on a friend's page.0
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