Fitbit Flex vs Heart Rate Monitor

So I've been waiting for months for the Fitbit Flex to be released and now that its starting to, I'm reconsidering if that is my best option. I want to be more accurate about how many calories I burn during the day, especially during exercise. I do like the fact that the Fitbit will tell you how active you are throughout the day, day to day, but I'm concerned that it won't tell me what I really want to know. It seems to me that an alternative could be a Heart Rate Monitor, but I'm not sure and there could be other options out there. Can anyone share their experiences with either to help me figure out my best option. Considerations would be one that could sync with my Android Phone or a computer.

Thanks

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  • SweetCaroline85
    SweetCaroline85 Posts: 8 Member
    I was wondering the same thing as well.
  • whitebalance
    whitebalance Posts: 1,654 Member
    For what this is worth... I have a Fitbit One and a mio Alpha HRM that I use with Digifit and have set up with custom zones based on an assessment built into Digifit. The Alpha is convenient for an HRM - no chest strap, no periodic touching of contacts, just buckle it tight and start the app and go. I wear the One on my waistband, not (ew) in a bra. Here's what I've found so far.

    The Fitbit and the HRM pretty much agree with each other about the calorie burn from walking and running on flattish surfaces, and real hills or stairs.

    Neither one is very effective at tracking a burn from strength training; the HRM doesn't handle all that wrist bending very well. Another HRM (or this one on a larger wrist, perhaps) might do better. A FB Flex might track this a little more. For my part, I just don't log any burn from strength training; I consider that exertion an unquantified (therefore inedible) "deficit bonus."

    On cardio workouts like rowing, recumbent cycling, or (my favorite) adaptive motion trainer, the Fitbit-reported burn is significantly lower than the HRM-reported burn. A Flex might track rowing more than the One does since it's wrist-borne. But the AMT gets the heart going so much, plain old step count and pace are somewhat deceptive. Same thing with running on an incline treadmill - the Fitbit doesn't account for that incline, and it makes a difference. I don't think the Flex has an altimeter at all, so even stepping on inclines and stairs outdoors may be underestimated with the Flex as compared with the One.

    So I think it depends on the type of activity you do. If it's mostly step-based, like walking or running, Fitbit excels (I don't bother using my HRM to track a walk or run since the FB accounts for it and is more convenient). If your strategy is incorporating more activity into your daily life, the FB will work better than trying to track all day with an HRM (except maybe the Basis band, which is more to track lifestyle instead of workouts). If you plan to isolate your exercise more and track "workouts" (including walks and runs), especially if your activity is other than step-based, a properly configured HRM may be of more use.

    Of course, if you're a tech-toy junkie like me... They can be used together. :)
  • meeper123
    meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
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  • rfsatar
    rfsatar Posts: 599 Member
    I have a One and a Polar FT7.
    I wear the Fitbit everywhere (incl gym) but it is useless for things like a stationary bike, rowing machine, strength and of course can't be taken into the pool.
    I use the HRM to track all forms of exercise and whilst I am sure it isn't great for strength, it is better than nothing and way better than the Fb.

    The FB picks up my entire burn for the day and for that it's perfect and I wouldn't use a HRM for that.

    No desire to buy a flex - not sure it would be as accurate as the One for everyday activity and doesn't pick up stairs.
  • grumpster72
    grumpster72 Posts: 43 Member
    Thank you everyone for the information. After taking a further look, I've decided to go with the Polar FT7 and see how that goes before getting the flex as well.
  • I'm a fan of the Fitbit Flex thus far. I've been using it for approx a week now and I like the fact that it motivates me. It also tracked my runs and although I was guessing I was running approx 3 miles the flex tracked it down to the step it was actually 3.25. Although nothing is perfect I think gadgets such as these are a good way to remind you to move.
  • gfroniewski
    gfroniewski Posts: 168
    I use both a Flex and a Wahoo Blue chest strap HRM when I am working out. The combo is nice because you know pretty much exact calorie burn. I love my Flex and wouldn't trust a wrist worn HRM, but that is just me.
  • nickerjo
    nickerjo Posts: 2 Member
    I use the Flex the Aria and a HRM to capture data and FitBit ,MyFitnesspal and Cyclemeter to track everything. I have found that the HRM generally gives me a lower calorie burn than most of the cardio exercises in the FB/MFP exercise databases.

    So for mountain biking and elliptical cross trainer I use the HRM calories. Just seems logical to use the more conservative number since my goal is weight loss. If I were to use the higher number and it was not accurate I could be fooled into thinking I had burned more calories than I really had and increase my caloric intake inappropriately. I let the Flex take care of general steps, etc.

    I started with the One, but was always losing it and it ended up going through the wash. (It actually continued to work, but the battery life seemed to be lower) I can wear the Flex in the pool and in the shower.

    Hope this helps
  • COHikerGirl
    COHikerGirl Posts: 8 Member
    A glorified pedometer isn't sufficient for those of us who engage in activities such as biking, skiing, swimming, and other non-step-based exercise.

    Just imagine achieving fitness-device nirvana:
    An upgraded version of the FitBit/Jawbone devices and apps, each of which still record data into MyFitnessPal (and vice-versa) as they do now -- but ALSO incorporating heart-rate monitoring and/or skin temperature changes so as to calculate more-accurate caloric expenditure from a broader range of activities.

    If a good proportion of us called on the FitBit and Jawbone manufacturers to provide such a version, it might happen sooner. It will HAVE to happen, eventually. The technology is there, but hasn't been put together as yet in a single device. Hell, I'd pay more, for that!
  • I've been hearing a lot of things about the Polar (this thread and beyond). That might be the next thing to add. I use the Fitbit Flex and it's great to have that data on hand. But with a number of the things I practice, especially martial arts weapons and ukemi (falling and getting back up repeatedly) it doesn't seem to be accurate. How does everyone's experience work out integrating the data between Fitbit, HRM and MFP? Is there a lot of data that has to be added/modified manually, or do you find they work well together?
  • COHikerGirl said just what I was thinking. I've shared that recommendation with Fitbit as well. Let's hope to see a product like that in 2014!
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    ukemi (falling and getting back up repeatedly)

    Cool--on my way back from my next wine tasting party, I'm just going to tell everyone I'm doing "ukemi".
  • ukemi (falling and getting back up repeatedly)

    Cool--on my way back from my next wine tasting party, I'm just going to tell everyone I'm doing "ukemi".

    Awesome! Next time I go to the dojo, I'm going to tell them I just came from a wine tasting party.
  • debbisykes
    debbisykes Posts: 1 Member
    Which HRM do you use?
    And if you are using a HRM and FB, how does FB know which calories to record (HRM or FB) so that it doesn't double dip?
  • kjames79
    kjames79 Posts: 8 Member
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  • kjames79
    kjames79 Posts: 8 Member
    Which HRM do you use?
    And if you are using a HRM and FB, how does FB know which calories to record (HRM or FB) so that it doesn't double dip?

    yes someone needs to answer this for me otherwise I am going to take by FB back. I use a heartrate monitor for my exercises and just want to use my fitbit for everything else.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    Which HRM do you use?
    And if you are using a HRM and FB, how does FB know which calories to record (HRM or FB) so that it doesn't double dip?
    If you prefer to log some HRM calorie value, you log it and FB overwrites it's own value for the time period. That's how it works on the Fitbit site. I believe it does work the same if you log the exercise here at MFP, though. Hopefully someone can verify.
  • kjames79
    kjames79 Posts: 8 Member
    So It looks like mfp, fb, and endomondo w/ hrm play very well together. mfp over-rides the readings from fb anytime something from endomondo is recorded and even the fitbit app is updated properly without any double dipping. bravo to all the teams at each company for great communication between each other.
  • I've been using a Polar FT7 as a HRM. I'd recommend getting one with a H7 monitor as they normally come with H1 and that wont talk to your phone.
    It works well, give heart rate stats and calorie burn. I use it mostly for running, teamed with Endomo. It's a far cheaper option than forking out for a full on running watch like a Garmin Forerunner. Maybe when I've got a few more half marathons under my belt I'll upgrade, although the Timex Ironman is looking promising..
  • Leslie1124
    Leslie1124 Posts: 143 Member
    So the Fitbit Flex only calculates calories based on steps? ... does it factor in height, weight, or heart rate?

    basically, my question is does the Flex track calories burned by heart rate or is it just step based?
  • No_Finish_Line
    No_Finish_Line Posts: 3,661 Member
    if you want to know how many calories burned throughout the day, the HRM will not do anything for that, while i believe the fitbit will record to some degree your workouts

    so based on that it seems like you'd want the fit bit.

    plus, unless you run or walk or something along those lines for exercise, the HRM wont be very accurate anyway.
  • Leslie1124
    Leslie1124 Posts: 143 Member
    Not throughout the day for me, I would be only want to track calories from runs (outdoor and on treadmill) and cardio workouts. So a HRM wont be very accurate? would the Flex be more accurate?
  • aswearingen22
    aswearingen22 Posts: 271 Member
    Not throughout the day for me, I would be only want to track calories from runs (outdoor and on treadmill) and cardio workouts. So a HRM wont be very accurate? would the Flex be more accurate?

    For workouts only, a HRM will be the most accurate. If you want daily totals, get a fitbit or the like (Garmin VivoFit, etc).
  • ogoeke
    ogoeke Posts: 1 Member
    You said you use both but do you use both at the same time? I mean wear both a fitibit and hrm at the same time.
  • I was just given a Fitbit which I wear on my wrist. So far, the gadget works well enough for what I want to know WITH THE EXCEPTION that there is no continual heart rate monitor. I also have an iPhone 5S Is there a third part heart monitor not involving straps around the chest, etc. which I could get to use with my fit bit and iPhone? At 80 I am not tech savvy but do what the heart information.
  • a4annie
    a4annie Posts: 1 Member
    I have read so much up on all of this and it's pretty confusing but what I've been doing for about a year now has been successful for me. I have a fitbit force that I have synced with MFP. In reading on fitbit and MFP it is suggested when syncing the 2 to log all exercises in MFP and NOT fitbit. Fitbit mainly is best for calories burned while walking and doing stairs. It doesn't do anything really when on a bike or eliptical.

    When doing exercises like running, bootcamps, etc I wear my HRM and manually enter the calorie burn into MFP. fitbit will adjust calories burned negatively or positively based off of the calories burned it has shown throughout the day. It may not be an exact science but it has worked for me.
  • DLW3555
    DLW3555 Posts: 7 Member

    If a good proportion of us called on the FitBit and Jawbone manufacturers to provide such a version, it might happen sooner. It will HAVE to happen, eventually. The technology is there, but hasn't been put together as yet in a single device. Hell, I'd pay more, for that!

    Fitbit is coming out soon with a tracker that has a built in HRM.
  • DLW3555
    DLW3555 Posts: 7 Member
    Fitbit is coming out soon with a tracker that has a built in HRM.
  • MikeInAZ
    MikeInAZ Posts: 483 Member
    I'm a strong believer of the heart rate monitor. I kinda stopped worrying about calories awhile ago and concentrate more on time in zones. For me, I want a strong heart, so I push to get into the Orange Zone for a good 15-20 minutes in a workout.

    I have a Polar H7 (http://bit.ly/polarh7) I use the Digitfit app ($5) and it gives you really good information about your workout. It also syncs with MyFitnessPal. I also like the H7 because it syncs with a lot of gym treadmills and ellipticals. It can also sync with the Polar FT4/7 watches.

    I don't believe an activity tracker is going to give you accurate calorie burn info. Even some of the new ones that have HRM built in are sketchy. The Basis has been riddled with problems where it loses your HR when you do anything involving the wrist. The Amiigo which isn't readily available only tells you resting HR. Some of the newer devices promise more (like Apple Watch), but do you want to wear that $350 device to the gym and get it all sweaty/scratched? and what is the battery life like?

    If you want a nice combo, try the Polar H7 and the Polar Loop tracker (http://amzn.to/ZPlFyX) , they integrate together but both can work independently

    Another good option is the Garmin VivoFit or Vivo Smart with the Garmin HRM Strap
    Vivofit - http://amzn.to/1th4BP6
    Strap - http://amzn.to/1DFPi4H

    Lastly check out the Facebook Group - Battle of the Fitness Bands where all these are being discussed. https://www.facebook.com/groups/446393048838552/