Hypothyroid HELP!

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A few weeks ago I found out I have Hashimoto's Thyroiditis.. AND Celiac Disease.. JOY to the world!

I haven't been able to lose any weight what so ever since about June.. and randomly have put on about 20 pounds since June as well. So, finding out about Hashi's made sense because I was literally doing everything right! I was also having weird rashes and a few other symptoms that I never even suspected to be gluten.

I have been GF for about 5 weeks or so.. and it's going fine.. no more stomach aches. I have also just recently cut out soy and most dairy (I use grassfed butter, raw cheese, and goat cheese without trouble as far as I know).

My TDEE is a little above 2200 (I did a 24 hour burn using my HR monitor) and I am told by my doc to do a 1200 calorie diet. I try to stick to it but I get SO hungry that most days I range between 1400-1600 calories.. which should still be enough to lose weight. But I'm not.

I'm not on any medication.. but am wanting to do it the natural way.. using desiccated porcine thyroid (armour or a different brand) but my endo says since my levels are still technically normal I just have to wait until they get out of range. So the only thing she says I can do is get my levels checked every 2 months three times and then once a year.

That has to be bull malarkey.

There has to be SOMETHING I can do. I just need input, help, personal experience, ANYTHING!

If you're here to ridicule then don't even bother. If you don't have any type of thyroid problem and never have.. you don't know what my body is doing. I am simply here asking for advice and helpful input.

Add me as a friend if you have Hashi's!

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  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
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    There are several private groups on here for people with Hashimoto's and also for people with Celiac. I'd suggest searching for one and asking some questions in there. I'd try to help but I have next to no knowledge about either.
  • CompressedCarbon
    CompressedCarbon Posts: 353 Member
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    Reality is right, you'll get tons of stories from the groups. I have no experience with Celiac but have been hypothyroid for lots of years. What test did they use to determine Hashimoto's? Were/Are you having symptoms that the doctor put down to thyroid issues? Were your T3 levels on the low range of normal and that's why the doctor doesn't want to put you on meds yet? My understanding is that with Hashimoto your body, in essence, attacks the thyroid eventually destroying it, so medication is in your future.

    My med dosage had been going steadily up but for the last year have been going drastically down so finding the right dosage is sometimes a moving target.

    The good news is that when your thyroid levels are normal, you should find that losing weight won't be an impossible journey and that you'll be able to lose weight doing the same thing that "normal" people do.

    Good luck as you learn to manage for both issues. It sounds like you are already well on your way to big improvements.
  • ereck44
    ereck44 Posts: 1,170 Member
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    Hello,

    I have hypothyroidism and have been taking 50 mcg of Synthroid for years. Although I felt better, I really didn't feel normal until Cytomel was added.
    My symptoms before adding meds were extreme fatigue: I had to take a nap after shopping for groceries--no energy to put them away. Falling asleep watching the local news at 5:30 or 6 p.m. at night. Never really feeling rested
    I never had a real weight problem until I started nursing school and I was stress eating a lot.
    I have an interest in nutrition and ate a spartan diet in my 20's, mostly eggs, cabbage, beef liver, mackerel or tuna (canned), rice, elbow macaroni, green beans, and chicken that I bought whole and cut up. When I had a real job, I ate out more and gained some weight, which I lost after joining a gym in the late 1980's, and pretty much kept it off until attending nursing school, and I gradually started gaining weight.
    My question to you is did your physician check your T4 uptake and T3. My physician only checked TSH and I was a little high on that test. She didn't want to start me on meds but I asked her to due to my having symptoms. When I saw a specialist, they checked a thyroid panel and added the Cytomel, which really helped a lot. I would not even think about discontinuing these meds.
    I lost weight this last year, but really watched my diet and exercised hard. I have lost and kept off (really important) 34 pounds. Was it easy--no! but doable, yes! You can't get discouraged because your mfp friends are going to lose the weight faster than you will. But it can be done.
    Sad to hear that you also have a problem digesting gluten. The good news is that the food industry has recognized it and there are more options than there were 10 years ago.
    Good luck. I hope that you can get on meds that will help you feel better.
  • Jagreene62
    Jagreene62 Posts: 4,782 Member
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    I have had hypothyroidism for about 20 years. It has been extremely difficult for me to lose weight....but i DID IT!!! :bigsmile: My husband says that I am obsessed!! I say that I am determined!! i started this journey in January 2011 and have kept it off. I have to work twice as hard as everyone else, but the reward is twice as much!! :bigsmile:

    The road will not be easy, but it is worth traveling!!! :drinker:
  • christadenz
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    Hi! I hope that this reply helps! I made a post that is super long called Healed most thyroid symptoms but still need advice. It gives you a pretty detailed description of my thyroid journey to being mostly healed to the point that I was able to get pregnant without a thyroid. It may help you further. I was never really told what I had when they removed my thyroid five years ago. However, I was told that at the time my blood levels were considered "normal". I had cysts on both sides of my thyroid with one that ruptured and continued to fill with liquid which would push on my nerves in my neck. Not fun!! I have been at this place where I have done everything correctly and could not lose one pound! So frustrating!!! I would first point you the website stopthethyroidmadness.com. If your doctor won't prescribe you the meds maybe you should find another doctor (a good one is so hard to find that knows anything about the thyroid because what they were taught in medical school isn't near enough) or you can find a way to order them black market. Your very best place to start is on the website mentioned above. They will reply to your questions very quickly and tell you what type of blood tests you should have your doctor order. They can also help you read your blood test results. Honestly, they saved my life. I have been on synthetic hormone, nature throid, armour, thyroid s...now I am going to try Effa from canada. They say it is the best Natural dessicated thyroid to try right now because the fillers are not made from gluten or anything hard to break down. You have to have your doctor write a script for this and then fax it to canada to have it mailed to you. I think that you are on the right track going gluten free, soy free, and diary free. It is difficult but it did help me feel better. However, it is not necessarily a weight loss type of diet. Sugar free is also helpful but difficult.
  • trudijoy
    trudijoy Posts: 1,685 Member
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    The good news is that when your thyroid levels are normal, you should find that losing weight won't be an impossible journey and that you'll be able to lose weight doing the same thing that "normal" people do.

    This is basically what I was going to say. There are exceptions, but for the most part a well-managed thyroid condition shouldn't be a barrier to weight loss.

    I've been hypothyroid since i was 14 and medicated since I was 26. I'm the thinnest I've been in a very long time right now.
  • redladywitch
    redladywitch Posts: 799 Member
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    There are several private groups on here for people with Hashimoto's and also for people with Celiac. I'd suggest searching for one and asking some questions in there. I'd try to help but I have next to no knowledge about either.

    Yes, there are private groups for both. I wish you the best.
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
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    So, if your lab work is " normal " and you don't take meds for it, why are you diagnosed with Hashimotos/Hypothyroidism ? The doctor has to base his diagnosis on something. And if there is a diagnosis there should be a treatment. Maybe you need to get a second opinion. I know that it is an area where people often get " normal " values even though they have thyroid trouble, but usually the diagnosis is based on something and then meds are given. In my case my symptoms were all blamed on menopause and I believed it. Only when I went to two different specialists in two different countries was I correctly diagnosed, but it was too late to save my thyroid.
    I lost my thyroid due to cancer which means by definition that I am hypothyroid and it took almost 2 years to have my meds well enough adjusted. I also learned through lots of research that hypothyroidism itself does not cause weight gain. What it causes however is an increase of appetite.....and it's up to us to either give in, or not. I did give in and often...lol. I now take several meds, but am well enough adjusted that I lost 45 pounds since April .
  • trudijoy
    trudijoy Posts: 1,685 Member
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    So, if your lab work is " normal " and you don't take meds for it, why are you diagnosed with Hypothyroidism ? The doctor has to base his diagnosis on something. Or maybe you need to get a second opinion. I know that it is an area where people often get " normal " values even though they have thyroid trouble, but usually the diagnosis is based on something and then meds are given. In my case it was all blamed on menopause and I believed it. Only when I went to two different doctors in two different countries was I correctly diagnosed, but it was too late to save my thyroid.
    I lost my thyroid due to cancer which means by definition that I am hypothyroid and it took almost 2 years to have my meds well enough adjusted. I also learned through lots of research that hypothyroidism itself does not cause weight gain. What it causes however is an increase of appetite.....and it's up to us to either give in, or not. I did give in and often...lol. I now take several meds, but am well enough adjusted that I lost 45 pounds since April .

    My thyroid levels tested marginally over the bottom of the normal range, but my hormone tests were through the roof. That could be where the confusion is for the OP too?
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
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    [/quote]

    My thyroid levels tested marginally over the bottom of the normal range, but my hormone tests were through the roof. That could be where the confusion is for the OP too?
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    This is what happened to me and it was blamed on menopause. Unfortunately it took me another 2.5 years of trouble and suffering before I just could not take this " you are exaggerating, this is what all women go through during menopause " BS anymore and went to see a specialist....and then another one.
    If you feel bad and the problem keeps you from living what you consider a normal life, please seek another opinion, especially since you have a diagnosis already. Make sure that the problem is treated, if the diagnosis is correct, or that they find out what makes you feel the way you do, if it is not Hashimotos.

    Oops, I just realized that you are not the OP when re-reading the post, but will let it stand anyway......as a non- native English speaker I have a good excuse...:o). Good Luck to you and the OP !
  • 4theking
    4theking Posts: 1,196 Member
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    So, if your lab work is " normal " and you don't take meds for it, why are you diagnosed with Hashimotos/Hypothyroidism ? The doctor has to base his diagnosis on something. And if there is a diagnosis there should be a treatment. Maybe you need to get a second opinion. I know that it is an area where people often get " normal " values even though they have thyroid trouble, but usually the diagnosis is based on something and then meds are given. In my case my symptoms were all blamed on menopause and I believed it. Only when I went to two different specialists in two different countries was I correctly diagnosed, but it was too late to save my thyroid.
    I lost my thyroid due to cancer which means by definition that I am hypothyroid and it took almost 2 years to have my meds well enough adjusted. I also learned through lots of research that hypothyroidism itself does not cause weight gain. What it causes however is an increase of appetite.....and it's up to us to either give in, or not. I did give in and often...lol. I now take several meds, but am well enough adjusted that I lost 45 pounds since April .

    Tests for Hashimotos and tests for Hypothyroidism are different tests. Hashi will lead to hypo but just because you are diagnosed hashi does not mean your thyroid is underactive yet. It sometimes takes a while for it to finally quit functioning.
  • trudijoy
    trudijoy Posts: 1,685 Member
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    My thyroid levels tested marginally over the bottom of the normal range, but my hormone tests were through the roof. That could be where the confusion is for the OP too?

    This is what happened to me and it was blamed on menopause. Unfortunately it took me another 2.5 years of trouble and suffering before I just could not take this " you are exaggerating, this is what all women go through during menopause " BS anymore and went to see a specialist....and then another one.
    If you feel bad and the problem keeps you from living what you consider a normal life, please seek another opinion, especially since you have a diagnosis already. Make sure that the problem is treated, if the diagnosis is correct, or that they find out what makes you feel the way you do, if it is not Hashimotos.

    Oops, I just realized that you are not the OP when re-reading the post, but will let it stand anyway......as a non- native English speaker I have a good excuse...:o). Good Luck to you and the OP !
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    Yeah it took them 12 years to diagnose me because they only did the first test not the second. That hormone test changed my life.
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,711 Member
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    but am well enough adjusted that I lost 45 pounds since April .

    Tests for Hashimotos and tests for Hypothyroidism are different tests. Hashi will lead to hypo but just because you are diagnosed hashi does not mean your thyroid is underactive yet. It sometimes takes a while for it to finally quit functioning.
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    That is true. But since the OP mentioned Hypothyroidism in her thread title and Hashimoto's in her post, I wanted to be mindful of both conditions. I don't think I implied anywhere that one leads to the other. But I do believe, based on what my doctors told me that Hashimoto's should be treated even if it is only in the beginning stages and especially if there are symptoms like fatigue, swelling/puffiness, sleeplessness and loss of mental acuity among others. Unfortunately there is a tendency to let people sufer, often for years just for the benefit of more obvious lab results.
  • ereck44
    ereck44 Posts: 1,170 Member
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    yes, it is important to treat the person,, not the lab numbers. The numbers are a valuable tool, but only a tool. For examples, physicians used to order blood transfusion based on a low hemoglobin number rather than how a person was feeling. Now realized that transfusion can cause harm. Medicine is constantly evolving. The endocrine system is very complicated!
  • fleetzz
    fleetzz Posts: 962 Member
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    I have Hashimotos, thyroid was stable for years then last year started gaining, finally in January my numbers got wacky and was put on synthroid. Much easier to lose weight once I got started on the synthroid. However, besides the weight gain, I have no hypothyroid symptoms. Have always been cold. Always, like since I was a teen. So I don't count that.

    Good luck!