Yummy McDonald's??
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Hamburger chef Jamie Oliver has won his long-fought battle against one of the largest fast food chains in the world – McDonalds. After Oliver showed how McDonald’s hamburgers are made, the franchise finally announced that it will change its recipe, and yet there was barely a peep about this in the mainstream, corporate media.
Oliver repeatedly explained to the public, over several years – in documentaries, television shows and interviews – that the fatty parts of beef are “washed” in ammonium hydroxide and used in the filling of the burger. Before this process, according to the presenter, the food is deemed unfit for human consumption. According to the chef and hamburger enthusiast, Jamie Oliver, who has undertaken a war against the fast food industry, “Basically, we’re taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings.”
Besides the low quality of the meat, the ammonium hydroxide is harmful to health. Oliver famously coined this the “the pink slime process.”
“Why would any sensible human being put meat filled with ammonia in the mouths of their children?” Oliver asked.
In one of his colorful demonstrations, Oliver demonstrates to children how nuggets are made. After selecting the best parts of the chicken, the remains (fat, skin and internal organs) are processed for these fried foods.
In reply to all of the bad press this process has received from Oliver, the company Arcos Dorados, the franchise manager for McDonalds in Latin America, said such a procedure is not practiced in their region. The same, it should be noted, applies to the product in Ireland and the UK, where they use meat from local suppliers.
In the United States, however, Burger King and Taco Bell had already abandoned the use of ammonia in their products. The food industry uses ammonium hydroxide as an anti-microbial agent in meats, which has allowed McDonald’s to use otherwise “inedible meat.”
Most disturbing of all is the horrifying fact that because ammonium hydroxide is considered part of the “component in a production procedure” by the USDA, consumers may not know when the chemical is in their food.
On the official website of McDonald’s, the company claims that their meat is cheap because, while serving many people every day, they are able to buy from their suppliers at a lower price, and offer the best quality products. But if “pink slime” was really the “best quality” that McDonalds can muster in the US, then why were they able do better in Latin America and Europe? More to the point, why can they apparently do better now in the United States?
These questions remains unanswered by the franchise which has denied that the decision to change the recipe is related to Jamie Oliver’s campaign. On the site, McDonald’s has admitted that they have abandoned the beef filler from its burger patties.
Oliver repeatedly explained to the public, over several years – in documentaries, television shows and interviews – that the fatty parts of beef are “washed” in ammonium hydroxide and used in the filling of the burger. Before this process, according to the presenter, the food is deemed unfit for human consumption. According to the chef and hamburger enthusiast, Jamie Oliver, who has undertaken a war against the fast food industry, “Basically, we’re taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings.”
Besides the low quality of the meat, the ammonium hydroxide is harmful to health. Oliver famously coined this the “the pink slime process.”
“Why would any sensible human being put meat filled with ammonia in the mouths of their children?” Oliver asked.
In one of his colorful demonstrations, Oliver demonstrates to children how nuggets are made. After selecting the best parts of the chicken, the remains (fat, skin and internal organs) are processed for these fried foods.
In reply to all of the bad press this process has received from Oliver, the company Arcos Dorados, the franchise manager for McDonalds in Latin America, said such a procedure is not practiced in their region. The same, it should be noted, applies to the product in Ireland and the UK, where they use meat from local suppliers.
In the United States, however, Burger King and Taco Bell had already abandoned the use of ammonia in their products. The food industry uses ammonium hydroxide as an anti-microbial agent in meats, which has allowed McDonald’s to use otherwise “inedible meat.”
Most disturbing of all is the horrifying fact that because ammonium hydroxide is considered part of the “component in a production procedure” by the USDA, consumers may not know when the chemical is in their food.
On the official website of McDonald’s, the company claims that their meat is cheap because, while serving many people every day, they are able to buy from their suppliers at a lower price, and offer the best quality products. But if “pink slime” was really the “best quality” that McDonalds can muster in the US, then why were they able do better in Latin America and Europe? More to the point, why can they apparently do better now in the United States?
These questions remains unanswered by the franchise which has denied that the decision to change the recipe is related to Jamie Oliver’s campaign. On the site, McDonald’s has admitted that they have abandoned the beef filler from its burger patties.
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Where do you live that this wasn't all over the news when it happened? I couldn't get away from it.0
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i just threw up a little..0
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Where do you live that this wasn't all over the news when it happened? I couldn't get away from it.
This is the 1st time I see it...thought the news just came out! lol Maybe I was wrong then :P Only watch hockey on tv so yeah..0 -
I was about the argue with this, because I thought you were talking about the UK.
However, you're right, the standards in the US are much laxer.
"Pink Slime" is not so bad though. They're taking a product that would otherwise be waste and making it appetizing. If I remember correctly, the product isn't that unhealthy either. The current demand for meat is unsustainable, and the less food we waste, the better. If we insist on only eating chicken breast, we're going to need to raise, feed and kill a lot more chickens.0 -
Not the first time that McDonald's has changed in response to media pressure: did you see the documentary "Supersize Me"?0
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I was about the argue with this, because I thought you were talking about the UK.
However, you're right, the standards in the US are much laxer.
"Pink Slime" is not so bad though. They're taking a product that would otherwise be waste and making it appetizing. If I remember correctly, the product isn't that unhealthy either. The current demand for meat is unsustainable, and the less food we waste, the better. If we insist on only eating chicken breast, we're going to need to raise, feed and kill a lot more chickens.
Agreed...but still...eating fat/skin/internal organs nuggets doesn't sounds too appealing to me, whatever how good they can make them taste!0 -
i just threw up a little..
LOL, then April, do NOT watch any of the videos showing the "pink slime".0 -
Hope my quarterpounder still tastes good when the recipe's changed
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I was about the argue with this, because I thought you were talking about the UK.
However, you're right, the standards in the US are much laxer.
"Pink Slime" is not so bad though. They're taking a product that would otherwise be waste and making it appetizing. If I remember correctly, the product isn't that unhealthy either. The current demand for meat is unsustainable, and the less food we waste, the better. If we insist on only eating chicken breast, we're going to need to raise, feed and kill a lot more chickens.
Agreed...but still...eating fat/skin/internal organs nuggets doesn't sounds too appealing to me, whatever how good they can make them taste!
I eat chicken skin, fat and the organs............mmmmm heart, liver and gizzards. Just not ground up to look like a chicken nugget. blech.0 -
In for pink slime.
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Sensationalism sells. Ammonium hydroxide has been used well before the obesity epidemic (and still currently) in just about every meat product as well as other foods we eat.
To the OP, where's the link for this post since I truly doubt you wrote it all on your own?
Read this link:
http://www.foodinsight.org/Resources/Detail.aspx?topic=Questions_and_Answers_about_Ammonium_Hydroxide_Use_in_food_production
From the link, you'll see that it's used world wide and has had numerous testing done with it to determine safety.
It's not like washing meat down with Pinesol.
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Hamburger chef Jamie Oliver has won his long-fought battle against one of the largest fast food chains in the world – McDonalds. After Oliver showed how McDonald’s hamburgers are made, the franchise finally announced that it will change its recipe, and yet there was barely a peep about this in the mainstream, corporate media.
Oliver repeatedly explained to the public, over several years – in documentaries, television shows and interviews – that the fatty parts of beef are “washed” in ammonium hydroxide and used in the filling of the burger. Before this process, according to the presenter, the food is deemed unfit for human consumption. According to the chef and hamburger enthusiast, Jamie Oliver, who has undertaken a war against the fast food industry, “Basically, we’re taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings.”
Besides the low quality of the meat, the ammonium hydroxide is harmful to health. Oliver famously coined this the “the pink slime process.”
“Why would any sensible human being put meat filled with ammonia in the mouths of their children?” Oliver asked.
In one of his colorful demonstrations, Oliver demonstrates to children how nuggets are made. After selecting the best parts of the chicken, the remains (fat, skin and internal organs) are processed for these fried foods.
In reply to all of the bad press this process has received from Oliver, the company Arcos Dorados, the franchise manager for McDonalds in Latin America, said such a procedure is not practiced in their region. The same, it should be noted, applies to the product in Ireland and the UK, where they use meat from local suppliers.
In the United States, however, Burger King and Taco Bell had already abandoned the use of ammonia in their products. The food industry uses ammonium hydroxide as an anti-microbial agent in meats, which has allowed McDonald’s to use otherwise “inedible meat.”
Most disturbing of all is the horrifying fact that because ammonium hydroxide is considered part of the “component in a production procedure” by the USDA, consumers may not know when the chemical is in their food.
On the official website of McDonald’s, the company claims that their meat is cheap because, while serving many people every day, they are able to buy from their suppliers at a lower price, and offer the best quality products. But if “pink slime” was really the “best quality” that McDonalds can muster in the US, then why were they able do better in Latin America and Europe? More to the point, why can they apparently do better now in the United States?
These questions remains unanswered by the franchise which has denied that the decision to change the recipe is related to Jamie Oliver’s campaign. On the site, McDonald’s has admitted that they have abandoned the beef filler from its burger patties.
this actually makes me laugh not at the study of course. I gave up Mcdonalds months ago. But because my co workers claim how theirs is the best compared to BK or Wendys.....Ive always opted out to spend that extra money on the real chicken any way0 -
Sensationalism sells. Ammonium hydroxide has been used well before the obesity epidemic (and still currently) in just about every meat product as well as other foods we eat.
To the OP, where's the link for this post since I truly doubt you wrote it all on your own?
Read this link:
http://www.foodinsight.org/Resources/Detail.aspx?topic=Questions_and_Answers_about_Ammonium_Hydroxide_Use_in_food_production
From the link, you'll see that it's used world wide and has had numerous testing done with it to determine safety.
It's not like washing meat down with Pinesol.
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here's the original link : http://fitlife.tv/hamburger-chef-jamie-oliver-proves-mcdonalds-burgers-unfit-for-human-consumption/0 -
I had a McDonald's burger in France once and it tasted like a burger you'd get at a fine steakhouse in the States.
Sad.0 -
It is very important to cite a source when reproducing someone else's work in its entirety.0
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So gross, but so delicious.0
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EDITED: Ugh, the image I wanted to post probably has too much language for the forums. It was someone on tumblr claiming the "pink slime" from chicken nuggets, when it was actually the freakin; Tubby Custard machine.0
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Thanks for that. And here's something to show that you can't believe everything a "celebrity chef" states.Sensationalism sells. Ammonium hydroxide has been used well before the obesity epidemic (and still currently) in just about every meat product as well as other foods we eat.
To the OP, where's the link for this post since I truly doubt you wrote it all on your own?
Read this link:
http://www.foodinsight.org/Resources/Detail.aspx?topic=Questions_and_Answers_about_Ammonium_Hydroxide_Use_in_food_production
From the link, you'll see that it's used world wide and has had numerous testing done with it to determine safety.
It's not like washing meat down with Pinesol.
A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
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here's the original link : http://fitlife.tv/hamburger-chef-jamie-oliver-proves-mcdonalds-burgers-unfit-for-human-consumption/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXhaud1HOw
Be objective and not subjective in your research.
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I had a McDonald's burger in France once and it tasted like a burger you'd get at a fine steakhouse in the States.
Sad.
While we're giving anecdotal evidence, I've eaten McDonalds in :
England
France
Germany
Finland
Denmark
Argentina
USA
Netherlands
Italy
I don't recall any of them tasting particularly better than any others. They were all reasonably priced, ok tasting burgers.0 -
This is why I cook at home more and more. These people wouldn't feed their product to their kids but feed it to ours. Shameful!0
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Agreed...but still...eating fat/skin/internal organs nuggets doesn't sounds too appealing to me, whatever how good they can make them taste!
I'm pretty sure that way back before places like McDonald's existed eating fat/skin/internal organs was fairly normal. If you had to raise, kill, and butcher your own animal you pretty much ate all of it.0 -
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Agreed...but still...eating fat/skin/internal organs nuggets doesn't sounds too appealing to me, whatever how good they can make them taste!
I'm pretty sure that way back before places like McDonald's existed eating fat/skin/internal organs was fairly normal. If you had to raise, kill, and butcher your own animal you pretty much ate all of it.
I personally wouldn't but yeah I'm sure some would...to each its own I guess!0 -
I had a McDonald's burger in France once and it tasted like a burger you'd get at a fine steakhouse in the States.
Sad.
I ate hamburgers in the Netherlands from McDonald's and now can't give blood thanks to mad cow disease...
I would rather have the pink slime thanks.0 -
Agreed...but still...eating fat/skin/internal organs nuggets doesn't sounds too appealing to me, whatever how good they can make them taste!
I'm pretty sure that way back before places like McDonald's existed eating fat/skin/internal organs was fairly normal. If you had to raise, kill, and butcher your own animal you pretty much ate all of it.
Haggis anyone? Scrapple anyone? Skin, organs, leftovers? Sounds good to me.
Side note: Don't make fun of Scrapple. I grew up on that loaf of leftover parts. I LOVE It.0 -
I don't eat McDonald's unless I'm severely intoxicated or being peer pressured by family & it's a dire emergency. Lol.0
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Agreed...but still...eating fat/skin/internal organs nuggets doesn't sounds too appealing to me, whatever how good they can make them taste!
I'm pretty sure that way back before places like McDonald's existed eating fat/skin/internal organs was fairly normal. If you had to raise, kill, and butcher your own animal you pretty much ate all of it.
Haggis anyone? Scrapple anyone? Skin, organs, leftovers? Sounds good to me.
Side note: Don't make fun of Scrapple. I grew up on that loaf of leftover parts. I LOVE It.
Scrapple reminds me of Snapple...the combination...oh Lord...0 -
Strong copy pasta...
...and by that I mean plagiarism. Attribution to the actual author would have been nice. This appears to be *a* source: http://politicalblindspot.com/hamburger-chef-jamie-oliver-proves-mcdonalds-burgers-unfit-for-human-consumption/ but honestly, citing *any* source would have been better than nothing.
Also, how did you avoid hearing about this when it first happened?
ETA: I see that you gave a cite later in the thread...so thanks for that. (For some people, citing work without proper attribution is a Very Bad Thing™. I'm one of those people.)
Edit: because I'm pretty sure my link to *a* source isn't actually to the *original*
ETAM: It appears that David Warner is the original author. I couldn't find the publishing origin though.0 -
Strong copy pasta...
...and by that I mean plagiarism. Attribution to the actual author would have been nice. This appears to be the original source: http://politicalblindspot.com/hamburger-chef-jamie-oliver-proves-mcdonalds-burgers-unfit-for-human-consumption/ but honestly, citing *any* source would have been better than nothing.
Also, how did you avoid hearing about this when it first happened?
I did quote original article after...forgot to do so in the first place. Mi Scusi to all plagiarism Hitlers in this world!0 -
i just threw up a little..
As did I.0
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