bmi measuring
bunkahes
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The doctor said I suppose to be at 120-135, because of the height I am. I am 5-5 weighing 270-275. and I am big boned so would my weight ratio be different
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Well ok, pretend he said 170 instead. If you get there, you can re-assess your bone structure and goals.0
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how do you know you are big boned?
Anyway, see how you feel and look as you lose weight. I mean when you get down to 150-170 you can always stop.0 -
I used to be "big boned" too, then I woke up and realized that I was just fat. BMI is a basically useless measure, but your doctor is right, you need to weigh less than you currently do, the actual number is mere semantics, body composition is far more important than an arbitrary number, still, 270 is not a healthy number.
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I just feel that someone that works there *kitten* off, should have a lower bmi measure then someone just sits on there *kitten*0
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BMI for an individual is junk. Currently just sliding under the overweight line, yet thanks to my high lean mass, I'm in size 6's. Keep your deficit moderate, strength train to help retain lean mass, and odds are, you'll be looking fantastic at a higher weight. Have too aggressive of a deficit, don't strength train, and you'll just be a smaller version of the current you.0
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BMI for an individual is junk. Currently just sliding under the overweight line, yet thanks to my high lean mass, I'm in size 6's. Keep your deficit moderate, strength train to help retain lean mass, and odds are, you'll be looking fantastic at a higher weight. Have too aggressive of a deficit, don't strength train, and you'll just be a smaller version of the current you.
judging by the OP's picture and stats that does not seem to be an issue for her and the BMI at this point is as valid as anything else.0 -
BMI is just a general measurement. It isn't for everyone. I am 5'5" as well and I'm trying to get to the high end of our BMI spectrum (155 lbs), because I have naturally large thighs and a big butt. lol. Do what you can do. If you feel great when you hit 180 lbs, then stay there. Right now, you should be worried about losing that first pound. Then you can reevaluate your final weight goal.0
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BMI seems to be a more archaic term of measure I have read that the waist to hip ratio is a much more accurate sign of health0
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I used to be "big boned" too, then I woke up and realized that I was just fat. BMI is a basically useless measure, but your doctor is right, you need to weigh less than you currently do, the actual number is mere semantics, body composition is far more important than an arbitrary number, still, 270 is not a healthy number.
Rigger
i could have written this. although it took me months of lifestyle change and a 25kg loss of fat to work out i was actually not big boned or genetically "heavy set".
if i work out my BMI i'm overweight....and under 20%BF. go figure!0 -
You are not big boned.
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BMI for an individual is junk. Currently just sliding under the overweight line, yet thanks to my high lean mass, I'm in size 6's. Keep your deficit moderate, strength train to help retain lean mass, and odds are, you'll be looking fantastic at a higher weight. Have too aggressive of a deficit, don't strength train, and you'll just be a smaller version of the current you.
judging by the OP's picture and stats that does not seem to be an issue for her and the BMI at this point is as valid as anything else.
The bit about retaining lean mass is very much an issue for her now, or should be. Muscle is more easily retained than regained.
OP, if you're at all active then you should have some good quality muscle just from hauling those 270 pounds around. Look at the photos in the "Success Stories" forum and you see that a lot of people who start out in your current weight range look like a million bucks well short of their healthy BMI range *IF* they've done what they could to conserve their existing muscle mass on the way down. i wouldn't worry about whether or not you're really big boned at this point, though. Any weight goal you set now is likely to need some reassessment later0 -
My Dr told me not to worry about bmi after he weighed me, measured me three times... bmi tells me to loose 20+kg, Dr said he would recommend 10kgs, and then re-assessing when I get there... this is me in my profile pic with a BMI 27, started with 29!0
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BMI for an individual is junk. Currently just sliding under the overweight line, yet thanks to my high lean mass, I'm in size 6's. Keep your deficit moderate, strength train to help retain lean mass, and odds are, you'll be looking fantastic at a higher weight. Have too aggressive of a deficit, don't strength train, and you'll just be a smaller version of the current you.
judging by the OP's picture and stats that does not seem to be an issue for her and the BMI at this point is as valid as anything else.
I started at 245 pounds - a small deficit and strength training from the beginning is why I kept all but a few pounds of my lean mass. I know there a ton of others on here that have experienced the same thing.0 -
I dont know why you are arguing that you are big boned. Does that really make a lot of difference?0
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I dont know why you are arguing that you are big boned. Does that really make a lot of difference?
Yeah it does when people still think they are fat cause they are big boned & not just cause they are fat from fat.0 -
I dont know why you are arguing that you are big boned. Does that really make a lot of difference?
Yeah it does when people still think they are fat cause they are big boned & not just cause they are fat from fat.
Really? So when you have a BMI of 50, for example, its all because you are big boned?0 -
I dont know why you are arguing that you are big boned. Does that really make a lot of difference?
Yeah it does when people still think they are fat cause they are big boned & not just cause they are fat from fat.
Really? So when you have a BMI of 50, for example, its all because you are big boned?
Nope. No such thing as big boned at all. It means you are fat, but then that depends on your height. For me it would mean being obese..... I have a BMI of 21. For me 50 would be so not great cause it would mean I'm back where I started plus extra0 -
I just feel that someone that works there *kitten* off, should have a lower bmi measure then someone just sits on there *kitten*
go work your *kitten* off and you will have a lower BMI....0 -
I dont know why you are arguing that you are big boned. Does that really make a lot of difference?
Yeah it does when people still think they are fat cause they are big boned & not just cause they are fat from fat.
Really? So when you have a BMI of 50, for example, its all because you are big boned?
Nope. No such thing as big boned at all. It means you are fat, but then that depends on your height. For me it would mean being obese..... I have a BMI of 21. For me 50 would be so not great cause it would mean I'm back where I started plus extra
Eh? BMI is based on your height....0 -
There are illnesses where excessive bone growth occurs but I am sure this would have been diagnosed by now so I cannot use this excuse either!
When you stop making excuses and decide to tackle the problem it can be done, 105lbs lost in less than 11 months by just eating less moving more, its not rocket science.
Lose the excuses, eat less, move more = lose weight!0 -
I dont know why you are arguing that you are big boned. Does that really make a lot of difference?
Yeah it does when people still think they are fat cause they are big boned & not just cause they are fat from fat.
Really? So when you have a BMI of 50, for example, its all because you are big boned?
Nope. No such thing as big boned at all. It means you are fat, but then that depends on your height. For me it would mean being obese..... I have a BMI of 21. For me 50 would be so not great cause it would mean I'm back where I started plus extra
Eh? BMI is based on your height....
Isn't that what I said? I'm not that tall so for me BMI 50 would make me obese. But then even at 7 foot tall a bmi of 50 is not healthy.0 -
I just feel that someone that works there *kitten* off, should have a lower bmi measure then someone just sits on there *kitten*
people who work their *kitten* of (i.e. athletes) generally have higher BMIs than sedentary people who are not overfat or obese, because muscle is denser than fat (before anyone on this site jumps on me for saying that, note that I said denser, not heavier.....)
BMI is not a measure of how acceptable you are as a person, though some people seem to treat it like lower BMIs are better so long as you don't go below a certain number. So having a lower BMI doesn't mean you worked harder or did better than anyone else. It's also not the best metric to use to determine if your body composition is healthy, as it doesn't take into account frame size or muscle mass. Body fat percentage is a better measure although when you're obese it's more tricky to measure accurately, as the ways of measuring it were designed to work on lean people.
regarding frame size/big bones, you can't really tell when you're obese how big your frame is. You'd be better to aim to get your waist size within the healthy range (there are two schools of thought on this, one is that it should be less than half your height, the other is that it should be less than a certain number regardless of height (31.5 inches in women, according to the NHS), because shorter people don't necessarily have smaller torsos than taller people, they sometimes just have shorter legs) and then when you get to that point, it'll be much easier to get a decent measure of body fat percentage and lean body mass, and then you'll know if you have a large frame and are already lean enough, or if you have a smaller frame and could do with losing a bit more.
IMO there's way too much focus on weight, and not enough on healthy body composition. Healthy bones and muscles are heavier than weak, wasted ones, so athletes do tend to have higher BMIs than non-athletes of the same clothing size. One piece of really good advice I heard, was that a good goal is to aim to be as heavy as you can for an ideal clothing size, rather than trying to be a particular number on a scale. I gained 10lb from doing heavy lifting and eating for strength and weight gains, and still fit into the same clothes I did 10lb lighter.0 -
I dont know why you are arguing that you are big boned. Does that really make a lot of difference?
Yeah it does when people still think they are fat cause they are big boned & not just cause they are fat from fat.
Really? So when you have a BMI of 50, for example, its all because you are big boned?
Nope. No such thing as big boned at all. It means you are fat, but then that depends on your height. For me it would mean being obese..... I have a BMI of 21. For me 50 would be so not great cause it would mean I'm back where I started plus extra
Eh? BMI is based on your height....
Isn't that what I said? I'm not that tall so for me BMI 50 would make me obese. But then even at 7 foot tall a bmi of 50 is not healthy.
are you trolling? BMI of 50 isn't healthy for anyone. BMI is calculated based on height and weight, so being taller doesn't change what a healthy BMI is, because it's already adjusted for height....... the problem is that BMI isn't adjusted for frame size, it assumes everyone has an average frame.
A BMI of 30 may be healthy for a large framed athlete, and very unhealthy for a small framed sedentary person though. There is such a thing as frame size (which refers to the width of your skeleton, e.g. shoulder and pelvis breadth, rib cage size) which does not necessarily correlate with height (you get short, large framed people and tall, small framed people). But at a BMI of 50 there's no way anyone is going to be healthy.
Also note that there are a lot of people who fall within the "healthy" BMI range yet do not have healthy body composition because they are sedentary and their diet is lacking in nutrition and unbalanced. These people are at risk of health problems as a result of their poor body composition, yet everyone seems to ignore them in these discussions. BMI does not take body composition into account and a healthy BMI does not automatically equal healthy, and an overweight BMI does not automatically equal being overfat and for some athletic, large framed people, an obese BMI is possible even when their body composition is healthy.0 -
I dont know why you are arguing that you are big boned. Does that really make a lot of difference?
Yeah it does when people still think they are fat cause they are big boned & not just cause they are fat from fat.
Really? So when you have a BMI of 50, for example, its all because you are big boned?
Nope. No such thing as big boned at all. It means you are fat, but then that depends on your height. For me it would mean being obese..... I have a BMI of 21. For me 50 would be so not great cause it would mean I'm back where I started plus extra
Eh? BMI is based on your height....
Isn't that what I said? I'm not that tall so for me BMI 50 would make me obese. But then even at 7 foot tall a bmi of 50 is not healthy.
No it isnt what you said. A BMI of 50 would make you morbidly obese regardless of your height.
A person of 14 stone at 7ft I am estimating would be of a reasonably healthy BMI. At 5ft they would be obese, say BMI 30-35. If they had a BMI of 30-35 at 7ft they would weigh a lot more.....0 -
Does it really matter in your current situation? Right now, judging from your picture you are at an unhealthy weight.The doctor said I suppose to be at 120-135, because of the height I am. I am 5-5 weighing 270-275. and I am big boned so would my weight ratio be different0 -
I dont know why you are arguing that you are big boned. Does that really make a lot of difference?
Yeah it does when people still think they are fat cause they are big boned & not just cause they are fat from fat.
Really? So when you have a BMI of 50, for example, its all because you are big boned?
Nope. No such thing as big boned at all. It means you are fat, but then that depends on your height. For me it would mean being obese..... I have a BMI of 21. For me 50 would be so not great cause it would mean I'm back where I started plus extra
Eh? BMI is based on your height....
Isn't that what I said? I'm not that tall so for me BMI 50 would make me obese. But then even at 7 foot tall a bmi of 50 is not healthy.
No it isnt what you said. A BMI of 50 would make you morbidly obese regardless of your height.
A person of 14 stone at 7ft I am estimating would be of a reasonably healthy BMI. At 5ft they would be obese, say BMI 30-35. If they had a BMI of 30-35 at 7ft they would weigh a lot more.....
Actually a 7ft person weight a BMI of 30-35 is still classed as obese.
I did also say IT DEPENDS ON YOUR HEIGHT. But yes a BMI of 50 would make anyone regardless of height unhealthy. I still don't know what you are trying to say though.0 -
I dont know why you are arguing that you are big boned. Does that really make a lot of difference?
Yeah it does when people still think they are fat cause they are big boned & not just cause they are fat from fat.
Really? So when you have a BMI of 50, for example, its all because you are big boned?
Nope. No such thing as big boned at all. It means you are fat, but then that depends on your height. For me it would mean being obese..... I have a BMI of 21. For me 50 would be so not great cause it would mean I'm back where I started plus extra
Eh? BMI is based on your height....
Isn't that what I said? I'm not that tall so for me BMI 50 would make me obese. But then even at 7 foot tall a bmi of 50 is not healthy.
No it isnt what you said. A BMI of 50 would make you morbidly obese regardless of your height.
A person of 14 stone at 7ft I am estimating would be of a reasonably healthy BMI. At 5ft they would be obese, say BMI 30-35. If they had a BMI of 30-35 at 7ft they would weigh a lot more.....
Actually a 7ft person weight a BMI of 30-35 is still classed as obese.
I did also say IT DEPENDS ON YOUR HEIGHT. But yes a BMI of 50 would make anyone regardless of height unhealthy. I still don't know what you are trying to say though.
Are you a brick wall by any chance?
The original poster is confused to whether her high BMI is down to fat or being big boned. Right? I never queried anything to do with height.
"It means you are fat, but then that depends on your height". You brought that up but, no it doesnt. BMI of 50 means obese, regardless of height. Contradiction.0 -
Just Liston, Dont Judge:
All i am asking is would by bmi measure would be lower from all the calories i burn then someone the same weight that just sits on the couch with no exercise.0 -
I dont know why you are arguing that you are big boned. Does that really make a lot of difference?
Yeah it does when people still think they are fat cause they are big boned & not just cause they are fat from fat.
Really? So when you have a BMI of 50, for example, its all because you are big boned?
Nope. No such thing as big boned at all. It means you are fat, but then that depends on your height. For me it would mean being obese..... I have a BMI of 21. For me 50 would be so not great cause it would mean I'm back where I started plus extra
Yes, there absolutely is a difference in frame sizes between people. :frown:0 -
Just Liston, Dont Judge:
All i am asking is would by bmi measure would be lower from all the calories i burn then someone the same weight that just sits on the couch with no exercise.
No. BMI is simply a mathematical equation that uses height and weight to come up with one number that says if you are obese, over weight, normal - healthy, or underweight (if I understand your question).0
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