Teaching children about weight and nutrition

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  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    It doesn't look so bad to me. As she said, nothing is off-limits. Just some things should be eaten with more moderation. And higher fat means higher calories.
    I think whole milk, butter, and meat are dietary staples regardless of their calorie content -- not "whoa" foods to be avoided. Perhaps if people ate more of them they wouldn't be prone to overeating in the first place. I think it's terrible to be teaching that nonsense to kids.
    Butter is good, but a "dietary staple"?

    And the "whoa" foods are not "foods to be avoided." They're "foods to eat in moderation."

    Butter is a staple in my house, along with bread, milk, eggs, flour, and sugar/Stevia. If any of those things are missing, it's time to go to the store. :laugh:
  • jr235
    jr235 Posts: 201 Member
    Its good to know that everyone thinks if I lead by example my little one will follow along. Right now she's 2 and wants to do everything I do. She sees me going out for a run she wants to go out for a run too. She likes to help me 'cook' now and can name many spices by smell. Mostly I just try to keep a healthy lifestyle in place so its not even a question. For some time I don't think it will even occur to her that she could have junk for lunch or skip meals because that's just not the way we role. She is incredibly active and next year I will start enrolling her in sports.

    I have a bit of a messed up relationship with food because I started eating out of boredom when I was fairly young. My parents divorced and mostly checked out of hte whole parenting thing to go live their own lives. No one was around to teach me healthy habits. In some ways that was good for me and in some ways bad. I learned to cook at a young age because otherwise I would have been eating nothing but ramen. All in all I have no idea if leading by example is enough, but I certainly hope it is because there's not much else I can do!
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    All in all I have no idea if leading by example is enough, but I certainly hope it is because there's not much else I can do!
    It's the best way to help her have a healthy relationship with food. If you start harping on weight (even mentioning it, really), it can and probably will lead to all sorts of issues you don't want.

    There's no guarantee she won't become overweight or anything like that, but it's more important that she love herself, don't you think?
  • jr235
    jr235 Posts: 201 Member
    I never had any intentions of harping on her about her weight. The idea was giving her the tools to manage her own weight when she gets to the stage where she is more in control of her food and habits.

    All in all I'm not a big fan of 'making' my kid do anything in terms of lifestyle choices. I can't 'make' her choose a particular religion, 'make' her study a certain subject, 'make' her like to read, anything really. All I can do is put the materials out there and watch her grow into a well informed all around awesome adult. ;)
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    The idea was giving her the tools to manage her own weight when she gets to the stage where she is more in control of her food and habits.

    This is not something you want to do with an adolescent. Modeling healthy behavior and making healthy foods the staple in your household are important, but don't even mention "managing" her weight. Please do not do this to your child.

    If at some point she does seem to be getting out of control, talk to her doctor about it. But don't create a problem.
  • Not bad having weighing scale. It's good from time to time to heck it as long as she is not obsessed about her weight. It's a good tool to help measure BMI
  • baldmitch
    baldmitch Posts: 90 Member
    I forgot...

    If you can, garden.

    Include the kids and make it fun.

    Compare a squash, green bean or a cucumber you grow in the garden to the sickly things they sell at the grocery store and fast food restaurants. We did this when our kid was 5. Couldn't get him to eat green beans from a can, but let him "pick dinner" from the garden and also see how mama cooks the veggies (steam, boil, or sautee in EVOO), and bingo!
  • DawnieB1977
    DawnieB1977 Posts: 4,248 Member
    Lots of parents have a growth scale or mark on the door where their children have grown to. If you had the same with a weight, they wouldn't think it strange when they became teenagers - and it would be pretty easy to figure out a healthy range for them to stay in. They key is healthy _range_ because that will remind them that sometimes they need to put on weight too.

    No. No. No.

    No, just no. I rarely weigh my kids. I can tell they're a healthy weight just by looking at them. They're both tall for their ages, and slim.

    I reiterate - teach by example and keep active. Young kids are full of energy. If they get used to running about and being active with their parents at a young age, hopefully they'll carry on being active.

    I don't remember my parents ever specifically talking to us about nutrition, yet all 3 of us know how to eat healthily. I never go to McDonald's or anywhere, which I never did as a child, I cook my own food and don't rely on microwave meals, I prefer to walk most places (I live in England), and I like being active. This is how I grew up.
  • What's working for me as my son gets older, is that I started getting him hooked on veggies and fruits when he was younger.

    He's currently 8 and yes, if given the choice would have fast food (McDonald's, Burger King, etc.) for dinner every day. But also if given the choice and we're eating out, he'll choose the soup and salad place (Sweet Tomatoes). He thinks that cooked but room temperature green beans with nothing more than a bit of a Cajun seasoning is a great snack. He loves broccoli, cooked or raw without a ton of "crap" on it (so not much on dip, or cheese on his broccoli).

    I believe that a lot of the battle for teaching children about nutrition, weight and body image is to be a good role model. Teach your child the struggle of staying fit, or in my case, getting fit. Take them out to do things even if it's just playing with them in the park (that teaches that exercise is better than sitting in front of a TV or computer). Lead by example as best you can. I'd love to say that my weight loss is all about me but after having my son, part of it is for him. I don't want him to go through the struggle I've gone through. So I use MFP as a teaching tool for him too. Mom's got to log her dinner, mom's got to log her exercise. Or even bribe him to get his homework done before I pick him up from after school care by saying that we'll go to the gym that night.

    My son knows that mom can't go to McDonald's (or other fast food place) often because the high fat, high grease food makes mom "blow up", and he now knows it means that it makes mom gain weight so it's a funny that mom would "blow up". And he does know it's because I don't want to choose a salad at a place like that. So we plan those trips out, like if mom has gone and spent over an hour at the gym on the weekend, we can go to McDonald's but only if we go play at the park afterward to get some more exercise in. I even allow him on the scale at home and I praise him that he's in a healthy weight range.

    So now that I've babbled on. It's my firm belief that you start them young, do what you can to help create that healthy lifestyle and body image before they are making the choices themselves and teach them that all foods are okay if done in moderation. Get them active so that they want to stay active all before the technology of today encourages them to become inactive. It's up to us as their parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents or even the friends that are family to teach them early.
  • JustSomeEm
    JustSomeEm Posts: 20,267 MFP Moderator
    I have two sons, a 12 year old and a 9 year old. My 12 year old has a little more fat on him than he should, not much, but enough that you can see it when he isn't wearing a shirt. I spent the first 10 years of his life modeling crappy eating behavior for him, and I think that has taken its toll. He likes carbs a little too much and doesn't like to eat his veggies at meal times. He'd prefer his snacks be things like chips and cookies, even though I have ALWAYS made him have something healthier than chips for a snack with the occassional exception. I don't make my boys clear their plates at meal times, but I DO make them eat most of their vegetables. I make it clear that if they're still hungry after a meal they can have seconds - not some high calorie/low nutrient 'snack' food. Six months ago, I started making healthier food choices - modelling better eating habits for my boys. Just from watching me, they are making healthier choices as well, and asking for the lower nutrient foods less. We still have them in the house, we just don't eat htem as often, and the boys want them less often. We DO talk about nutrition, but like most of you guys, I don't want to give my kids a fitness complex. I truly think that the best way to teach your kids about healthy nutrition and fitness is to model it for them. YES, talk to them. Explain why you won't let them have cookies for a snack this time - because they are a sometimes food and THIS time they should be having something healthier. But for the most part, SHOWING them healthy habits is what they need. SHOWING my oldest the right things to consume and having a non-accusatory dialog has seemed to help. He's making smarter choices, and is slimming down a little.
  • I have four kids. 3 from my previous marriage (boys), and I only get them in the summers and at holidays since we live in a separate state. I always had them exercise with me, but their food habits are bad since they're dad is obese and does not care to take care of his health, and fitness doesn't even come close to existing for him. My (step) daughter is 11, and kind of on the cusp of becoming overweight. Her dad and I have been married for less than 2 years so it's a whole new world for her though she does run, and we have her working out 3x per week. We live in a "church culture" so we're always battling since "church food" is always a big part of our lives. I don't push anything on her, but I do set the example. She's 110lbs. at 11 years old so it's something we're keeping a close eye on since I was 115lbs. when I was 18, and we have the same body frame -- though she's not mine biologically there is a lot of similarities in our body type that I can relate with. I just have a lot of "cleaning" up to do since lots of bad food habits were introduced to her from very early on in life from her biological mom.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    I have four kids. 3 from my previous marriage (boys), and I only get them in the summers and at holidays since we live in a separate state. I always had them exercise with me, but their food habits are bad since they're dad is obese and does not care to take care of his health, and fitness doesn't even come close to existing for him. My (step) daughter is 11, and kind of on the cusp of becoming overweight. Her dad and I have been married for less than 2 years so it's a whole new world for her though she does run, and we have her working out 3x per week. We live in a "church culture" so we're always battling since "church food" is always a big part of our lives. I don't push anything on her, but I do set the example. She's 110lbs. at 11 years old so it's something we're keeping a close eye on since I was 115lbs. when I was 18, and we have the same body frame -- though she's not mine biologically there is a lot of similarities in our body type that I can relate with. I just have a lot of "cleaning" up to do since lots of bad food habits were introduced to her from very early on in life from her biological mom.
    How tall is she?

    I had reached my full adult height by 11 years old, so 110 pounds at that age (and I have a small frame) wasn't a big deal.

    I hit puberty way before most of my classmates, so I was bigger than all of them up to about that point.
  • DawnieB1977
    DawnieB1977 Posts: 4,248 Member
    I have four kids. 3 from my previous marriage (boys), and I only get them in the summers and at holidays since we live in a separate state. I always had them exercise with me, but their food habits are bad since they're dad is obese and does not care to take care of his health, and fitness doesn't even come close to existing for him. My (step) daughter is 11, and kind of on the cusp of becoming overweight. Her dad and I have been married for less than 2 years so it's a whole new world for her though she does run, and we have her working out 3x per week. We live in a "church culture" so we're always battling since "church food" is always a big part of our lives. I don't push anything on her, but I do set the example. She's 110lbs. at 11 years old so it's something we're keeping a close eye on since I was 115lbs. when I was 18, and we have the same body frame -- though she's not mine biologically there is a lot of similarities in our body type that I can relate with. I just have a lot of "cleaning" up to do since lots of bad food habits were introduced to her from very early on in life from her biological mom.
    How tall is she?

    I had reached my full adult height by 11 years old, so 110 pounds at that age (and I have a small frame) wasn't a big deal.

    I hit puberty way before most of my classmates, so I was bigger than all of them up to about that point.

    Same. 110lbs for someone who's say 5'4 is perfectly fine.
  • WhiteRabbit1313
    WhiteRabbit1313 Posts: 1,091 Member
    I think it's a slippery slope, personally. If a kid knows too much about nutrition, they might start obsessing about what's healthy, being too fat etc... I think it's much healthier to teach everything in moderation and just give a good example (like saying no, you can't have another cookie, those are special treats, instead of 'those are bad for you'). The last thing I want is my 5yo to start demonizing food.

    I do wonder though if seeing their mom weigh their food all the time is not just going to do just that though.

    ^^Yep. I have a 2.5 year old. We eat at the dinner table, without TV, usually home-prepared, well-balanced meals. She loves veggies, which is great! She's a big eater, which makes me happy, but also concerns me, too. I try very hard to be nonchalant about her meals and not attach too much emotion with eating, but I do ask her if she enjoyed dinner, like I would any other activity. I NEVER make her eat everything on her plate, because I was forced to do that and have had to learn to leave the food on my plate if I'm no longer hungry, or don't like it. If she eats 2 bites, I'm fine with that, and she knows "kitchen's closed" after dinner, and I do NOT let her eat out of boredom, which she has tried to do in the past month, or so. I tell her she's fine and that it's not meal/snack time, yet. I pack fresh fruit for her daily snacks at school to balance some of the garbage they feed her (and the other kids) while there, but I also am sensitive to the fact that she sees that they get something different, so I allow her to have a little of what they offer the other kids, too. She's allowed milk at meal times, but water, otherwise. All of what I've tried to teach her, through habit, and example, has been in the most natural manner I can muster. I try desperately not to freak out that she's always been 30th percentile for height and 50th percentile for weight. The first six months of her life she was 100% breastfed, so, I figure she's the way she's "supposed" to be. However, for all of my genuine concern for her health and happiness, I DO wonder if my diligence is obvious to her and that it could be just as damaging to her. I am in the process of trying to relax more about it all, for her, and in my own life. I don't want it to be a big issue, either way...just a lifestyle she's accustomed to.

    Balance. It's hard to have it and even harder to teach it. :ohwell:
  • WhiteRabbit1313
    WhiteRabbit1313 Posts: 1,091 Member
    But I think my friends on the whole must be pretty extreme with their kids because they do not give them pudding cups, frozen chicken nuggets, etc...and they would never allow full-size chocolate bars unless it was a special occasion - and definitely not for a 3 yr old, ever. Are my friends that unusual in this?

    If so, then, I'm unusual, also. My daughter (2.5 years old) only gets frozen chicken nuggets at school (go sucky daycares in Texas--I can't find a single one that doesn't serve frozen garbage, and they all think corn is a veggie. *facepalm*). We don't serve that type of stuff at home (although, we're not perfect, either--we DO try to cook most nights) and she certainly doesn't eat entire pudding cups or full-size chocolate bars ever. She's allowed sweets, in small portions. At birthday parties, she's totally allowed to have cake and pizza, that sort of thing, but she still has water with her meal. So, yeah, if that's weird; count me in. :tongue:
  • waldo56
    waldo56 Posts: 1,861 Member
    The idea was giving her the tools to manage her own weight when she gets to the stage where she is more in control of her food and habits.

    This is not something you want to do with an adolescent. Modeling healthy behavior and making healthy foods the staple in your household are important, but don't even mention "managing" her weight. Please do not do this to your child.

    If at some point she does seem to be getting out of control, talk to her doctor about it. But don't create a problem.

    Everyone at some point needs to learn to manage their weight. It is a basic life skill. It is not something to be feared, not something to shelter kids from. Anyone who ever plays weight class sports gets a basic intro to this.

    Managing weight does not mean get as thin as possible and then some. That is a body image issue and really has nothing to do with weight management.

    The nuts and bolts of how to increase and decrease one's body weight (and by proxy fat and muscle mass), and the impact that water has on it, are basic life skills that everyone should know. As important as how to cook, how to drive a car, and how to manage one's money.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    The idea was giving her the tools to manage her own weight when she gets to the stage where she is more in control of her food and habits.

    This is not something you want to do with an adolescent. Modeling healthy behavior and making healthy foods the staple in your household are important, but don't even mention "managing" her weight. Please do not do this to your child.

    If at some point she does seem to be getting out of control, talk to her doctor about it. But don't create a problem.

    Everyone at some point needs to learn to manage their weight. It is a basic life skill. It is not something to be feared, not something to shelter kids from. Anyone who ever plays weight class sports gets a basic intro to this.

    Managing weight does not mean get as thin as possible and then some. That is a body image issue and really has nothing to do with weight management.

    The nuts and bolts of how to increase and decrease one's body weight (and by proxy fat and muscle mass), and the impact that water has on it, are basic life skills that everyone should know. As important as how to cook, how to drive a car, and how to manage one's money.
    I'm sorry, but no. I'm all for people having differing opinions, but this is wrong. Period. End of story. Wrong.
  • lisalsd1
    lisalsd1 Posts: 1,519 Member
    I have a 5 and 3 year old. I wasn't an overweight kid, but an overweight tween/teen. I think nutrition is extremely important to teach kids. We don't keep "junk food" in the house. So, the kids don't have access on a normal basis.

    I think the most important thing is to lead by example. My husband and I eat very well. We select a balanced diet for ourselves and discuss which foods have what nutrients and what those nutrients do for the body with our 5 year old.

    We also take the kids to the gym with us (obviously, they stay in the gym daycare at this point), but we are showing them that exercise is just a part of a healthy lifestyle.

    I try VERY hard not to bring up my weight in front of the kids or weighing myself in front of the kids. I bring it up sometimes, but I plan to stop. I try to focus on discussing fitness in front of the kids, like what I did at the gym, how much weight I used, what machines, etc.

    If a parent makes it about WEIGHT from the beginning, I think you are really setting the kids up for a rough time. If the kids are health conscious, their weight will fall in line and never become a problem for them.
  • The idea was giving her the tools to manage her own weight when she gets to the stage where she is more in control of her food and habits.

    This is not something you want to do with an adolescent. Modeling healthy behavior and making healthy foods the staple in your household are important, but don't even mention "managing" her weight. Please do not do this to your child.

    If at some point she does seem to be getting out of control, talk to her doctor about it. But don't create a problem.



    Everyone at some point needs to learn to manage their weight. It is a basic life skill. It is not something to be feared, not something to shelter kids from. Anyone who ever plays weight class sports gets a basic intro to this.

    Managing weight does not mean get as thin as possible and then some. That is a body image issue and really has nothing to do with weight management.

    The nuts and bolts of how to increase and decrease one's body weight (and by proxy fat and muscle mass), and the impact that water has on it, are basic life skills that everyone should know. As important as how to cook, how to drive a car, and how to manage one's money.
    I'm sorry, but no. I'm all for people having differing opinions, but this is wrong. Period. End of story. Wrong.

    From all your replies, you seem pretty bent out of shape about or towards anyone who has a differing opinion than yours...and quite defensive.

    All due respect but...It's our responsibility as parents to teach our children about right food choices, bodily exercise, and over all health. Leading by example should be #1 and never letting your child use the "fat" word but this world is waaay too full of obese people, and I feel it's my responsibility to teach my child about this. I was allowed to eat an entire bag of chips and soda for a snack and was told it was acceptable. It's not...because though I was a thin teenager by the time I was 20...I was almost 200lbs., and had high blood pressure, cholesterol, and was near being diabetic. No one taught me, and over the past 10 years I realize how much easier thing would have been on me had someone showed me "the way". I'm proud of my 100lb. weight loss, and the fact I have a passion for fitness but as long as my kids live in my house they'll live our way. Still plenty of time for other fun activities but so as long as I buy the food...they'll eat what they're given. Why wouldn't anyone want that for their child?
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    i think having a scale in the house is fine. It's like any measuring device you use it to track and trend. Perfect time to introduce anatomy and physiology to your daugter you talk about how the body fluctuates and how it grows. I'm not saying to set some sort of schedule, but if she wants to get on the scale you talk about it.

    She'll be weighed at the doctor and they will plot her growth when she gets old enough show her the chart explain what it means.

    As far as food there is no such thing as bad food or good food. Food can only be healthful and certain elements (once again another great biology and chemistry lesson) combine to make the body healthy.
  • WeepingAngel81
    WeepingAngel81 Posts: 2,232 Member
    First off OP, bravo for being concerned enough to ask these questions. We don't know your household circumstances, only what you have offered here. I didn't have these similr concerns until recently. My daughter is 8 and I have split custody with her dad. 50/50 every other week. Our food choices are very different and she is starting to recognize this. There are some parents out there who seem to have all the answer and know the perfect way to parent. I am not one of them. I struggle. I use "bad" terms around my kids. Not on purpose, but if my daughter asks me a question at random, I answer and don't always choose my words wisely. At that point I find myself clarifying for her. It doesn't help when the schools are constantly talking about the childhood obesity weight here in Lincoln and pushing to reduce it. This is good and bad because then it brings my concerns to the front of my mind wondering if everything I say or do is somehow sabotaging my daughter's health.

    In the end I just need to remember that all I can do is answer her questions as honestly as possible and to lead my life in a way that will show her that exercise is fun. I was so worried when I started to work out and eat better that she would end up becoming obsessed with it. I think this was me projecting my own fears of failure on to her. I was obsessed therefore I was afraid she would be as well.

    As many other people have mentioned, lead by example, but remember that not one thing you do or say will ruin her weight and nutrition forever. Encourage her to be active by playing with her. Teach her good eating habits in how you eat. Most of all just enjoy her! Don't over think it and enjoy these moments while she is still little. They don't last long!
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member

    All due respect but...It's our responsibility as parents to teach our children about right food choices, bodily exercise, and over all health. Leading by example should be #1 and never letting your child use the "fat" word but this world is waaay too full of obese people, and I feel it's my responsibility to teach my child about this. I was allowed to eat an entire bag of chips and soda for a snack and was told it was acceptable. It's not...because though I was a thin teenager by the time I was 20...I was almost 200lbs., and had high blood pressure, cholesterol, and was near being diabetic. No one taught me, and over the past 10 years I realize how much easier thing would have been on me had someone showed me "the way". I'm proud of my 100lb. weight loss, and the fact I have a passion for fitness but as long as my kids live in my house they'll live our way. Still plenty of time for other fun activities but so as long as I buy the food...they'll eat what they're given. Why wouldn't anyone want that for their child?

    my Mom was the opposite she was obsessed with "healthy food" no white sugar, no white wheat, no cookies, no chocolate, no cake...EVER! When I had more independence and money I went straight to the forbidden food, and quickly fell into the binge cycle. I'm sure there is a balance between teaching moderation and healthful eating habits.
  • DawnieB1977
    DawnieB1977 Posts: 4,248 Member
    But I think my friends on the whole must be pretty extreme with their kids because they do not give them pudding cups, frozen chicken nuggets, etc...and they would never allow full-size chocolate bars unless it was a special occasion - and definitely not for a 3 yr old, ever. Are my friends that unusual in this?

    Yep, I'm Weird too then! I've never, ever made chicken nuggets. In fact, they had them at my son's after school club, and he refused to eat them. Actually, he refuses to eat any snacks there. My kids have never been to McDonald's or KFC, Burger King etc.

    No idea what a pudding cup is. They've never had a full size choc bar.

  • All due respect but...It's our responsibility as parents to teach our children about right food choices, bodily exercise, and over all health. Leading by example should be #1 and never letting your child use the "fat" word but this world is waaay too full of obese people, and I feel it's my responsibility to teach my child about this. I was allowed to eat an entire bag of chips and soda for a snack and was told it was acceptable. It's not...because though I was a thin teenager by the time I was 20...I was almost 200lbs., and had high blood pressure, cholesterol, and was near being diabetic. No one taught me, and over the past 10 years I realize how much easier thing would have been on me had someone showed me "the way". I'm proud of my 100lb. weight loss, and the fact I have a passion for fitness but as long as my kids live in my house they'll live our way. Still plenty of time for other fun activities but so as long as I buy the food...they'll eat what they're given. Why wouldn't anyone want that for their child?

    my Mom was the opposite she was obsessed with "healthy food" no white sugar, no white wheat, no cookies, no chocolate, no cake...EVER! When I had more independence and money I went straight to the forbidden food, and quickly fell into the binge cycle. I'm sure there is a balance between teaching moderation and healthful eating habits.

    Exactly! I still eat donuts, go to taco bell...last night we even had a pizza, and my breakfast was left over breadsticks. There has to be a balance. You can't be so out of control either. Just have to eat healthy most of the time.
  • twixlepennie
    twixlepennie Posts: 1,074 Member
    But I think my friends on the whole must be pretty extreme with their kids because they do not give them pudding cups, frozen chicken nuggets, etc...and they would never allow full-size chocolate bars unless it was a special occasion - and definitely not for a 3 yr old, ever. Are my friends that unusual in this?

    Yep, I'm Weird too then! I've never, ever made chicken nuggets. In fact, they had them at my son's after school club, and he refused to eat them. Actually, he refuses to eat any snacks there. My kids have never been to McDonald's or KFC, Burger King etc.

    No idea what a pudding cup is. They've never had a full size choc bar.

    It's pudding in a disposable container that's easy to transport-my kids had them today in their lunches :smile:
  • First off OP, bravo for being concerned enough to ask these questions. We don't know your household circumstances, only what you have offered here. I didn't have these similr concerns until recently. My daughter is 8 and I have split custody with her dad. 50/50 every other week. Our food choices are very different and she is starting to recognize this. There are some parents out there who seem to have all the answer and know the perfect way to parent. I am not one of them. I struggle. I use "bad" terms around my kids. Not on purpose, but if my daughter asks me a question at random, I answer and don't always choose my words wisely. At that point I find myself clarifying for her. It doesn't help when the schools are constantly talking about the childhood obesity weight here in Lincoln and pushing to reduce it. This is good and bad because then it brings my concerns to the front of my mind wondering if everything I say or do is somehow sabotaging my daughter's health.

    In the end I just need to remember that all I can do is answer her questions as honestly as possible and to lead my life in a way that will show her that exercise is fun. I was so worried when I started to work out and eat better that she would end up becoming obsessed with it. I think this was me projecting my own fears of failure on to her. I was obsessed therefore I was afraid she would be as well.

    As many other people have mentioned, lead by example, but remember that not one thing you do or say will ruin her weight and nutrition forever. Encourage her to be active by playing with her. Teach her good eating habits in how you eat. Most of all just enjoy her! Don't over think it and enjoy these moments while she is still little. They don't last long!

    Agree!!!! I'm learning this too with the different parenting styles between my ex-husband and myself when it comes to my 8 year old boy. I'm the one more likely to allow fast food and moderation or exercise for the fast food "treat" but his dad and dad's new g/f are more encouraging for dessert (usually sugar) nightly when he's there. I just have to teach by example and be honest with him. Otherwise, I'm just trying to enjoy my time with him.
  • seltzermint555
    seltzermint555 Posts: 10,740 Member
    But I think my friends on the whole must be pretty extreme with their kids because they do not give them pudding cups, frozen chicken nuggets, etc...and they would never allow full-size chocolate bars unless it was a special occasion - and definitely not for a 3 yr old, ever. Are my friends that unusual in this?

    If so, then, I'm unusual, also. My daughter (2.5 years old) only gets frozen chicken nuggets at school (go sucky daycares in Texas--I can't find a single one that doesn't serve frozen garbage, and they all think corn is a veggie. *facepalm*). We don't serve that type of stuff at home (although, we're not perfect, either--we DO try to cook most nights) and she certainly doesn't eat entire pudding cups or full-size chocolate bars ever. She's allowed sweets, in small portions. At birthday parties, she's totally allowed to have cake and pizza, that sort of thing, but she still has water with her meal. So, yeah, if that's weird; count me in. :tongue:

    Just to clarify I don't consider my friends "weird" nor would I call you weird :-)

    But I have a pretty wide circle of friends, and they all seem to be on the same page about certain things. For example none of them would let their preschooler drink soda. Same with the full size chocolate bars and stuff. I think of my friends as pretty moderate people but then to come into this thread and read a lot of the stuff people are feeding their kids, and another recent thread about packing school lunches...I was floored and it made me think my friends are much more "extreme" but in my opinion, that's a good thing.

    The other thread...I can't seem to find it so I won't be totally accurate in my description but I think someone there described a school lunch with graham crackers, yogurt, PB&J, and fruit snacks...or something along those lines which sounded like a bunch of desserts to me LOL
  • cmeiron
    cmeiron Posts: 1,599 Member
    i make it all about health, and what the body needs each nutrient for (protein for growing and healing, fat for their brains and energy, vitamin D for their bones, etc) I'm totally downplaying the connection between diet and weight, because I have two girls and eating disorders are appearing in younger and younger girls these days, so it's just not worth the risk. A healthy diet is about far, far more than just whether you are fat or thin. Additionally, I don't want my girls to grow up thinking that aesthetics is more important than health. Hence the focus when I teach them about healthy eating, is on health. It also includes dental health, because a good reason for kids not to snack on sugary things all day is it leads to tooth decay. And this combined with encouraging them to do physical activity, obesity shouldn't happen so there's no reason to scare them with things like "don't eat x you'll get fat" which a) doesn't promote a healthy relationship with food and b) isn't true anyway, because getting fat is the result if eating more than you burn off, not eating specific foods.

    Also, I'm not puritanical about healthy eating. I know a lot of cases where the parents were very strict about so-called "unhealthy" foods and once the kids got old enough to make their own food choices, they went OTT on all the foods they were not allowed when they were younger, and quickly got into unhealthy eating habits. IMO learning to enjoy everything in moderation (i,e, without going OTT) is a vital life skill, and so I let my kids have all the so-called unhealthy foods, but as part of a balanced diet where the main focus is on getting food from all the food groups. In terms of education, I focus on them understanding why their body needs each of the nutrients, and the concept that too much of anything can be bad for you and the concept of a balanced diet, rather than demonising specific foods and banning them.

    Also I very much agree with modelling good nutrition not just teaching it. "Do what I say, not what I do" absolutely does *not* work with children. They want what you're eating and if you're telling them to eat more vegetables while you're eating a diet of dessert foods and no vegetables, then the message they get is "we're supposed to eat vegetables, but they suck and people prefer to eat dessert foods instead".

    QFT, the bolded stuff. My parents labeled and demonized foods, restricted foods, modeled cruddy obsessive imbalanced approaches to eating and weight loss. It messed up my relationship with food big time and my weight, body image and mental health suffered for it. It's taken me decades to figure out how to do this on my own, the healthy way.

    This is all really, really solid advice.
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    I teach preschool. My school has recently become affiliated with the "Discover/CATCH" program. It's a part of the JCC of America system. CATCH stands for Coordinated Approach To Children's Health. You can Google it.

    We are required to teach nutrition and exercise as part of our daily/weekly curriculum. We must have 60 minutes of planned physical activity each day, in addition to our normal playground time. And we talk a lot (I mean *a lot*) about food. In CATCH there are no 'bad' foods. We call them Go Foods and Whoa Foods. Whoa foods are those things with lower nutritional value, that you can still always have but should pause when making that choice. Pause, say 'whoa', and remember that this is something to have in small doses. It's a sometimes food, not an always food. We don't forbid anything, we just help the children know that some foods have better health value than others. And those healthier foods are the things w want to choose more often, and eat in higher quantity. It's amazing. My class of three year olds, after just 3 months of this type of learning, can sort their own lunches into sections of Go and Whoa foods, they independently choose to eat their Go Foods first and take only small tastes of the Whoa Foods, they are instructing their parents during grocery shopping trips, they ask questions about which of their foods have protein or calcium or vitamins, etc. It's wonderful.
    Oh, goody. Another low fat diet. :huh: I hope the program is optional -- no wonder so many parents are choosing to home school.


    What? I didn't say anything about fats. This is really more about fruits and vegetables.

    The school provides snacks every day. We used to have graham crackers, saltines, Ritz crackers, etc, alternating with apples, oranges, or bananas. Now we no longer serve the crackers at all. For the snacks that we provide, it's all fruits and vegetables. Only.

    The children bring their own lunches from home. That's entirely up to the parents. Most of them bring things like tuna, eggs, yogurt, beans, veggies, hummus, rice, pasta, potatoes, fruits, etc. We've seen a significant decrease in things like Twinkies and canned Macaroni/Cheese.

    It's not at all about 'low fat' and I never said that it was.
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    It doesn't look so bad to me. As she said, nothing is off-limits. Just some things should be eaten with more moderation. And higher fat means higher calories.
    I think whole milk, butter, and meat are dietary staples regardless of their calorie content -- not "whoa" foods to be avoided. Perhaps if people ate more of them they wouldn't be prone to overeating in the first place. I think it's terrible to be teaching that nonsense to kids.


    Well we don't do meat at our school because it's a Jewish facility and we are a Kosher-dairy place. And yeah, we all agree that the meat/milk being on the Whoa side is sort of iffy. But it's a new program and all the kinks aren't fully worked out. Also, it's a guideline, not a rulebook. People can learn and sort through things and figure things out themselves.