Dieting and exercising for 18 months and not lost weight!

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  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member
    she needs to cut out the bread.. and eat atleast 5 smaller and HEALTHIER meals a day!
    NO BREADS, PASTRIES, REFINED CARBS, WHITE RICE - EAT A BIG BREAKFAST, MEDIUM LUNCH AND SMALL DINNER AND EAT DINNER BEFORE 5. ANYTHING AND EVERTHING AFTER THAT WILL TURN TO FAT. eat more protein, lean meat, eggs, veg, plain yogurt etc.. whole wheat rice rather than white rice. rye bread is she must have bread. small changes - HUGE DIFFERENCE. really make your dinner the smallest meal of the day.. and just enough to not be hungry. fill it up with water / tea.

    No. This has nil to do with weight loss..

    I like the part about everything turning to fat after 5 pm.
    Is that the same as turning into a Pumpkin at midnight?
  • mbagradstudent
    mbagradstudent Posts: 29
    If she works out like my mother that could be it. My mom can bike for 30 minutes and not break a sweat because she's barely peddling. Or she walks on the treadmill at a moderate pace and again doesn't break a sweat. If she's not pushing herself and just barely moving, it's not really working out.

    She could also be drinking her calories.
  • Briargrey
    Briargrey Posts: 498 Member
    she needs to cut out the bread.. and eat atleast 5 smaller and HEALTHIER meals a day!
    NO BREADS, PASTRIES, REFINED CARBS, WHITE RICE - EAT A BIG BREAKFAST, MEDIUM LUNCH AND SMALL DINNER AND EAT DINNER BEFORE 5. ANYTHING AND EVERTHING AFTER THAT WILL TURN TO FAT. eat more protein, lean meat, eggs, veg, plain yogurt etc.. whole wheat rice rather than white rice. rye bread is she must have bread. small changes - HUGE DIFFERENCE. really make your dinner the smallest meal of the day.. and just enough to not be hungry. fill it up with water / tea.

    wth? Uh, no.

    SOME people need to restrict carbs for medical reasons. SOME feel like they should for control reasons. But otherwise, there's no need to give up anything, no need to eat smaller meals, etc. - weigh your food meticulously, log every thing that goes into your mouth, burn more calories than you take in.

    Now -- some people like to have several small meals, and it is a proven technique for those people. So that is not inherently wrong. It's just not a MUST do.

    The time of day you eat doesn't matter - your body doesn't say 'omfg it's 5 o'clock somewhere, time to turn on the fat making machine!'. So please, no one listen to this piece of it.

    OP - your mother is either taking in more than she says and deliberately not telling you, or the foods/amounts are more caloric than y'all think, meaning your portion sizes are out of whack.

    Weigh (most accurate), measure, track every thing you put in your mouth, including the oil or butter you cook something in, the piece you just snarfed while preparing the meal, etc. She should get started on mfp for herself and log everything.

    Don't use MFP calculations for calorie burn in exercise though - it way overestimates.
  • jimgatewood
    jimgatewood Posts: 85 Member
    Don't believe it.
  • sullus
    sullus Posts: 2,839 Member

    .....

    Believe what you want, but everyone is different and the body works on chemistry not physics

    Chemistry is applied physics.
  • SailorKnightWing
    SailorKnightWing Posts: 875 Member
    When people say "don't eat after #pm" they don't think food magically turns to fat after that hour. They think your metabolism slows while you sleep and the food eaten after the proprietary time will be digested during said sleep, therefore burning less efficiently.

    It's still incorrect, but it's not voodoo.
  • sullus
    sullus Posts: 2,839 Member
    When people say "don't eat after #pm" they don't think food magically turns to fat after that hour. They think your metabolism slows while you sleep and the food eaten after the proprietary time will be digested during said sleep, therefore burning less efficiently.

    It's still incorrect, but it's not voodoo.

    I like to have a bedtime snack to rev my metabolism while I sleep, so I don't wake up in starvation mode.
  • LVCeltGirl
    LVCeltGirl Posts: 473
    If she's been dieting off and on for a good portion of her life, then she's not eating enough, especially if she's exercising. If she's like me, her body is saying "Oh, here we go again" and holding onto the fat (weight). I have to eat at least 1300 calories daily to lose weight. If I go much below that, then I won't lose. If I don't get enough sleep or I don't drink enough water, I won't lose.

    Even quoting what I learned during my upteenth time through Weight Watchers, you've got to eat all your points (ie for MFP, or TDEE, you've got to eat all your calories). From the message boards, everything I've read also says do not go below 1200 calories eaten daily (and that's not net calories between eaten and exercise but actual calories eaten but you really should eat back some of your exercise calories).

    Also is she using something (even a diary at home) to log everything at least for a week to see what she is doing daily within calorie limits and estimated calorie burn from exercise? If not, she needs to get something and log everything. It could be a real eye-opener for her. Sometimes because it's just a "bite', you don't realize you've eaten something.

    That's my 2 cents and tailored specifically for how my body functions. It could be different for her and my advice means nothing in her situation. I have to log everything or I am off on my calorie count enough to throw off my weight loss. Some people don't have to be that good. It's different for everyone. The idea of visiting a doctor to rule out something medical is a great one too!
  • lizziebeth1028
    lizziebeth1028 Posts: 3,602 Member
    Hmmm...Mom is a closet eater/binger?! And burpees, planks, lunges at 213 pounds and 59 years of age is fairly impressive...not saying impossible but with that 'supposed' intensity she is working at AND supposed calorie deficit....she would have lost.

    Get Mom on MFP, logging her food and exercise, she'll see results.
  • 17ChargerGirl17
    17ChargerGirl17 Posts: 441
    There is no way that she is exercising like she says and eating that and NOT losing weight.
    You would certainly lose at least a couple lbs a month! I work out like that and eat about 1250 a day and have lost over 100 lbs in that time, just sayin
  • MrsRainz
    MrsRainz Posts: 1 Member
    I have severe hypothyroidism and working out/eating less doesn't always = losing weight, HOWEVER... If I actually cut my calories by THAT much and exercised THAT much combined with the dieting, I would lose weight. It would yoyo while I adjusted my medicine BUT it would come off.

    I'm sure your mom thinks she is doing the right things, but sounds like she needs to cut carbs, monitor the amount of extra calories through drinks, etc and try that route. The carbs could be the culprit.

    More lean protein, less carbs. Minimal sugars, etc.

    Good luck to your mom.
  • Jamie22184
    Jamie22184 Posts: 33 Member
    I agree with the others who have said mom's not being honest about food intake.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    what does she drink?
  • meganjcallaghan
    meganjcallaghan Posts: 949 Member
    she needs to cut out the bread.. and eat atleast 5 smaller and HEALTHIER meals a day!
    NO BREADS, PASTRIES, REFINED CARBS, WHITE RICE - EAT A BIG BREAKFAST, MEDIUM LUNCH AND SMALL DINNER AND EAT DINNER BEFORE 5. ANYTHING AND EVERTHING AFTER THAT WILL TURN TO FAT. eat more protein, lean meat, eggs, veg, plain yogurt etc.. whole wheat rice rather than white rice. rye bread is she must have bread. small changes - HUGE DIFFERENCE. really make your dinner the smallest meal of the day.. and just enough to not be hungry. fill it up with water / tea.

    um....a few things....I wasn't aware the body runs on a clock and says ''uh oh. it's 5 pm....everything in after this point will turn to fat". Also... this?...
    cant see eating a plate of heavy food just an hour or so before you go to bed is healthy
    - I don't know a whole lot of grown adults who go to bed at 6 pm.

    And finally...."whole wheat rice"? whaaaaaaaa? You do know that rice and wheat are two entirely different grains so there is no such thing as ''whole wheat rice''....or it's not actually rice....yes? No? Is there some weird hybrid out there i've never heard of or do you mean Wild Rice?
  • judyde
    judyde Posts: 401 Member
    I like to have a bedtime snack to rev my metabolism while I sleep, so I don't wake up in starvation mode.

    Good one!
  • freezerburn2012
    freezerburn2012 Posts: 273 Member
    Have you heard of the show Secret Eaters? It features people who are puzzled about why they're not losing weight while not eating very much. The answer is: they're eating more than they think. Sometimes, a lot more.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bJgpvMMm3U
  • anabelpalomo
    anabelpalomo Posts: 34 Member
    If she really were only eating what you stated she is and exercising in the amounts you're also stating, she would have lost some weight. 18 months is a very long time to have been on the exercise/eating plan that she's on and not have moved the scale at least a little.

    If you are really interested in helping your mother out, you need to find out if she is being honest about the food she is eating. Ask her to be honest with you. Keep an open mind and don't simply reply by saying she is being honest. Do you live with her and watch her 24/7? If you don't, look into it.
  • aarar
    aarar Posts: 684 Member
    she needs to cut out the bread.. and eat atleast 5 smaller and HEALTHIER meals a day!
    NO BREADS, PASTRIES, REFINED CARBS, WHITE RICE - EAT A BIG BREAKFAST, MEDIUM LUNCH AND SMALL DINNER AND EAT DINNER BEFORE 5. ANYTHING AND EVERTHING AFTER THAT WILL TURN TO FAT. eat more protein, lean meat, eggs, veg, plain yogurt etc.. whole wheat rice rather than white rice. rye bread is she must have bread. small changes - HUGE DIFFERENCE. really make your dinner the smallest meal of the day.. and just enough to not be hungry. fill it up with water / tea.

    :laugh:
  • BrittanySA
    BrittanySA Posts: 20

    And finally...."whole wheat rice"? whaaaaaaaa? You do know that rice and wheat are two entirely different grains so there is no such thing as ''whole wheat rice''....or it's not actually rice....yes? No? Is there some weird hybrid out there i've never heard of or do you mean Wild Rice?

    OMG...I missed the whole wheat rice...I'm dying here...

    OP...it's possible your mom is underestimating her calorie intake accidentally. I know that before I weighed and measured everything, I had NO CLUE how much 4oz of chicken was, or what one serving of soup looked like. It truly is an eye opener, and I am willing to bet that most people here will say the same of when they first started.

    I am not trying to be insulting, but barring medical conditions/medication, she would lose. It is a scientific LAW, not opinion or anecdote.

    Good luck.
  • lolbemad
    lolbemad Posts: 3
    18 months is a long time to sit with no results. She needs to log her food, she isn't eating a deficit. If she has health problems she should ask a doctor. If she IS doing everything right with zero results she should ask a doctor, see if she has any under lying health problems. Aside from that she needs to just create a deficit.

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