quest bar law suit

FitMolly182
FitMolly182 Posts: 303 Member
in Food and Nutrition
http://www.strengthsociety.com/quest-bar-nutrition-lawsuit/

Interesting... I have seen so many studies on so many products. It seems like nobody is really totally honest and accurate, but interesting nonetheless
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  • aquarabbit
    aquarabbit Posts: 1,622 Member
    Well crap. I'll be keeping an eye one this! I've really been getting into those. I found their youtube site that shows how to make all kinds of desserts from them. That makes me really mad that they are so $(@*$&)% expensive and they might be lying! I knew they sounded too good to be true. *sigh* Well, I just ran out. So I'll be holding off the next purchase until I find out more for sure!
  • TheGymGypsy
    TheGymGypsy Posts: 1,023 Member
    I'll keep an eye out for it because if I can get any settlement money that'd be greaaattt.
  • GetSoda
    GetSoda Posts: 1,267 Member
    even if true, who cares?
  • Fullsterkur_woman
    Fullsterkur_woman Posts: 2,712 Member
    even if true, who cares?
    That was my reaction too. It's all a little overblown.
  • haroon_awan
    haroon_awan Posts: 1,208 Member
    If it is indeed the case that the complainant made allegations without any scientific proof as Quest have stated then s/he is pretty much in deep tihs. A company like Quest, owned by GNC (!), will no doubt have the resources to fund and conduct a study, a well as a likely outpouring on financial donations from their beloved fans, to prove the accuracy of their nutritional claims.

    EDIT: Just read Paragraph 64 of the complaint lol. I don't the law in the state of California but saying that it would be "inequitable for Ds to be permitted to retain any of the ill gotten gains" from their acts is completely unreasonable and any decent judge or jury would say the same thing. That's brilliant!
    Well crap. I'll be keeping an eye one this! I've really been getting into those. I found their youtube site that shows how to make all kinds of desserts from them. That makes me really mad that they are so $(@*$&)% expensive and they might be lying! I knew they sounded too good to be true. *sigh* Well, I just ran out. So I'll be holding off the next purchase until I find out more for sure!

    No need for that. Go ahead and order them. This lawsuit seems like a waste of time and money. Quest will prove their claims I can assure you.
  • SpeSHul_SnoflEHk
    SpeSHul_SnoflEHk Posts: 6,256 Member
    Meh.
  • BigGuy47
    BigGuy47 Posts: 1,768 Member
    even if true, who cares?
    A lot of people. Accuracy with fiber and carb content is important for diabetics and individuals with certain metabolic conditions.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    wait, who gets the pay off if its found they did mislabel?
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    We are such a dumbed down, money hungry society that wants to sue and get monetary payouts for anything and everything.

    SMH. America is the land of free loaders.

    If people stayed away from the packaged food like products, you wouldn't have to worry about mislabeling and such. SMH, such a lazy, dumbed down society we live in today
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
    I noticed the claim about understating calories by 20%. That's legal in the USA. A food label can be off by up to 20%.
  • Love4fitnesslove4food2
    Love4fitnesslove4food2 Posts: 711 Member
    even if true, who cares?

    I care--I have about 8 boxes or more--that's $200 worth at least and I would not have purchased them if the nutritional information is actually what was alleged in the complaint. I would be quite pissed actually.

    Edited to add...that's not counting the 15 or so boxes I've already purchased and eaten.
  • hoyalawya2003
    hoyalawya2003 Posts: 631 Member
    wait, who gets the pay off if its found they did mislabel?

    The lawyers. As it is in every class action.
  • Naturalhiker
    Naturalhiker Posts: 73
    I would not be shocked at all to find out that majority of sports drinks, bars, powders etc are in the same boat having false information on them. I mean if the science part was perfected there would be a time when just taking 1 pill a day would do enough for your body to shed pounds easily.
  • Naturalhiker
    Naturalhiker Posts: 73
    I'll keep an eye out for it because if I can get any settlement money that'd be greaaattt.

    Here is the thing about suits like this one even if the company has to pay if this sum is spread out over a large number if IF you even get anything it would be like $2.25 if that at all. I am still waiting for my portion of a suit against Amerigas Propane company for selling full tanks of propane to customers when they were only about 40-50% full.
  • WickedPotions
    WickedPotions Posts: 1
    I care too, because in a day and age where many people are allergic, counting calories/carbs/macros... I need accuracy. If you lie about your calories, what else are you lying about?
    They are garbage anyway.
  • The_Aly_Wei
    The_Aly_Wei Posts: 844 Member
    We are such a dumbed down, money hungry society that wants to sue and get monetary payouts for anything and everything.

    SMH. America is the land of free loaders.

    If people stayed away from the packaged food like products, you wouldn't have to worry about mislabeling and such. SMH, such a lazy, dumbed down society we live in today

    Yes, yes, and yes! Well, you still have to check produce for GMO numerics...but as far as the food today goes, that is as good as it gets.

    The amount of crap in/not in our foods that we are unaware of is heaping.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    I care too, because in a day and age where many people are allergic, counting calories/carbs/macros... I need accuracy. If you lie about your calories, what else are you lying about?
    They are garbage anyway.

    If you have food allergies like that, then staying away from ALL packaged foods should be a priority of yours. Most every box, bag and package has contamination warning labels on it.
  • gelenerun
    gelenerun Posts: 12 Member
    wait, who gets the pay off if its found they did mislabel?

    The lawyers. As it is in every class action.

    AMEN! :explode:
  • TinGirl314
    TinGirl314 Posts: 430 Member
    If you're paying an obscene amount of money for these things, then I'm sorry but you're getting ripped off anyway.
    Good carbs and fiber are available in raw foods, that is the best way to consume them...
    There's no magic bar or magic shake or magic pill that's going to do anything better then natural foods. <3
    And the FDA having a 20% buffer doesn't surprise me...who came up with the food pyramid that said we should live mostly on grains? 6-11 servings a day of bread, cereal and pasta? Really now....

    I apologize if this sounded snarky, it wasn't intended to. That's just how my written voice comes out. Lol.
  • beezer215
    beezer215 Posts: 2
    I know what you mean. It is hard to know what is accurate anymore. Here is a company that accurately states what is in their protein bars. They even have certificate of analysis they can offer. A certificate of analysis or COA is a third party laboratory testing of the product that shows the results of what is in the product with a break down of protein, fiber etc.

    http://www.ratiobar.com/Default.asp
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,289 Member
    Legally, calorie content on labeling can be out 20% and most take advantage of that.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    I posted a thing about this in the original quest bar thread- I presonally don't understand the hype of quest bars anyway- so I'm not really shocked... I'm never shocked about anything that "seemed too good to be true" in the first place.

    A big fat meh.

    Sorry for the people who put their hopes and dreams into the bars- but meh.
  • Love4fitnesslove4food2
    Love4fitnesslove4food2 Posts: 711 Member
    wait, who gets the pay off if its found they did mislabel?

    The lawyers. As it is in every class action.

    AMEN! :explode:

    Clearly you two know no lawyers. It's not quite that sample and you seem to be forgetting that but for the lawyers' work on class action suits there would be no "pay off."
  • stefjc
    stefjc Posts: 484 Member
    I know what you mean. It is hard to know what is accurate anymore. Here is a company that accurately states what is in their protein bars. They even have certificate of analysis they can offer. A certificate of analysis or COA is a third party laboratory testing of the product that shows the results of what is in the product with a break down of protein, fiber etc.

    http://www.ratiobar.com/Default.asp

    All of which is how all foods are analysed. The list of nons for those bars is interesting, at least 2 of which are impossible to guarantee. The certificate is a sweet idea, it may even persuade some to purchase.

    But STILL they will have to use the 20% variability. Why? Because the bars will contain a mixture of foodstuffs that vary in kcals and nutrients naturally.


    As for the Quest suit, I wonder if they will sue the individual concerned when they have finished?
  • Jestinia
    Jestinia Posts: 1,153 Member
    Plaintiff seeks...disgorgement.

    Heh. Makes it sound like plaintiff wants them to stick finger down plaintiff's throat and induce vomiting up of questionable product!

    Legalese, always amusing until you have to wade through it for real.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    I would not be shocked at all to find out that majority of sports drinks, bars, powders etc are in the same boat having false information on them. I mean if the science part was perfected there would be a time when just taking 1 pill a day would do enough for your body to shed pounds easily.

    ? That made no sense whatsoever.
  • ronrstaats
    ronrstaats Posts: 294 Member
    Did anyone read the whole article or just the complaint?
    “Quest has been named in a lawsuit regarding our fiber count. It is our belief and conviction that this lawsuit is without merit. The things a plaintiff states in a lawsuit are just that — – his statements. He doesn’t have to prove them to put them in the lawsuit. He just needs to write them down. Proof is another matter. We believe that what is written in this lawsuit results from not understanding the current state of fiber science. We are fighting this case to make it clear to our customers and partners that our label information is 100% accurate
  • missability
    missability Posts: 223
    I have been using Quest for months....not as a replacement, just stumbled on to them over the summer, and thought they looked much better than the "glorified Candy bars" that are out there, and would come in handy over summer vacations, trips to the beach, etc......
    I have lost 101 pounds, in this year, 2013, and 126 total....and have 30+ to go....
    I read the whole article, and in the interest of fairness I think everyone should read Quests rebuttal:

    Quote by QuestNutrition:
    “Quest has been named in a lawsuit regarding our fiber count. It is our belief and conviction that this lawsuit is without merit. The things a plaintiff states in a lawsuit are just that — – his statements. He doesn’t have to prove them to put them in the lawsuit. He just needs to write them down. Proof is another matter. We believe that what is written in this lawsuit results from not understanding the current state of fiber science. We are fighting this case to make it clear to our customers and partners that our label information is 100% accurate.
    Make no mistake, Quest Nutrition will not back down in the face of what we believe are attacks based on lack of good information. The outpouring of support from our customers and supporters on this issue has been overwhelming. We’re very grateful for the support, and we want to assure everyone that we are committed to bringing the highest quality products to our loyal fan base. We have nothing to hide and we look forward to a very visible public refutation of these unfounded claims.”
    - See more at: http://www.strengthsociety.com/quest-bar-nutrition-lawsuit/#sthash.fQTphnrU.dpuf

    I for one will continue using them, as the rebuttal says, ANYONE can say ANYTHING in a lawsuit/claim,....SO until the claims are substantiated by an independent unbiased 3rd party....I will continue on my QUEST to my goal, and a happier healthier ME! :)
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    I have been using Quest for months....not as a replacement, just stumbled on to them over the summer, and thought they looked much better than the "glorified Candy bars" that are out there, and would come in handy over summer vacations, trips to the beach, etc......
    I have lost 101 pounds, in this year, 2013, and 126 total....and have 30+ to go....
    I read the whole article, and in the interest of fairness I think everyone should read Quests rebuttal:

    Quote by QuestNutrition:
    “Quest has been named in a lawsuit regarding our fiber count. It is our belief and conviction that this lawsuit is without merit. The things a plaintiff states in a lawsuit are just that — – his statements. He doesn’t have to prove them to put them in the lawsuit. He just needs to write them down. Proof is another matter. We believe that what is written in this lawsuit results from not understanding the current state of fiber science. We are fighting this case to make it clear to our customers and partners that our label information is 100% accurate.
    Make no mistake, Quest Nutrition will not back down in the face of what we believe are attacks based on lack of good information. The outpouring of support from our customers and supporters on this issue has been overwhelming. We’re very grateful for the support, and we want to assure everyone that we are committed to bringing the highest quality products to our loyal fan base. We have nothing to hide and we look forward to a very visible public refutation of these unfounded claims.”
    - See more at: http://www.strengthsociety.com/quest-bar-nutrition-lawsuit/#sthash.fQTphnrU.dpuf

    I for one will continue using them, as the rebuttal says, ANYONE can say ANYTHING in a lawsuit/claim,....SO until the claims are substantiated by an independent unbiased 3rd party....I will continue on my QUEST to my goal, and a happier healthier ME! :)

    Well, in all honesty, would you expect them to say anything else? Of course they are going to defend themselves. It doesn't mean anything in regards to how honest their labeling is.
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