Low Carbs - 80 to 100?

I do "carb back loading' with great success, basically it means you ear 30g of carbs in the evening for 10 days to 'shock' the body. The 10th day you eat 150gm to 200gm carbs between 6pm and 8pm, you can include a dessert like frozen yoghurt then back to 30g of carbs for 6 days a week the 7th 150gm to 200gm carbs between 6pm and 8pm, then stay on the 6 days of 30g, 7th day150gm to 200gm in the evening.

High vegetables 1 1/2 to 2 cups, no more than the back of my fist size of protein, 1200 calories a day, with HIT and weight training 5 days a week.

Don't eat the first 2 hours of getting up, your body produces HGH (human growth hormone) and a hormone called gherlin during the night which burns fat while you sleep. Eating immediately in the morning, particularly carbs stop this hormone production and therefore interferes with the body burning fat.. Exercise during that 2 hrs and have a breakfast with protein in it at the 2hr mark. I get up at 5am to do this before work.

I have a thyroid problem too, it's the only effective way I've found to lose weight. My husband averages 500gm a day weight loss using this with only cardio for 20min exercise, no weights. I'm building muscle, my loss is not so obvious "dam it!" but its coming off steadily.

It's not for everyone but it's what is recommended for people who have 'stubborn' fat from 'yo yo' dieting and for weight lifters whose bodies are confused by 'bulking' and 'leaning' all the time, 'yo yo'ing'.

Eat clean to stay lean

I do "carb back loading' with great success, basically it means you ear 30g of carbs in the evening for 10 days to 'shock' the body. The 10th day you eat 150gm to 200gm carbs between 6pm and 8pm, you can include a dessert like frozen yoghurt then back to 30g of carbs for 6 days a week the 7th 150gm to 200gm carbs between 6pm and 8pm, then stay on the 6 days of 30g, 7th day150gm to 200gm in the evening.

High vegetables 1 1/2 to 2 cups, no more than the back of my fist size of protein, 1200 calories a day, with HIT and weight training 5 days a week.

Don't eat the first 2 hours of getting up, your body produces HGH (human growth hormone) and a hormone called gherlin during the night which burns fat while you sleep. Eating immediately in the morning, particularly carbs stop this hormone production and therefore interferes with the body burning fat.. Exercise during that 2 hrs and have a breakfast with protein in it at the 2hr mark. I get up at 5am to do this before work.

I have a thyroid problem too, it's the only effective way I've found to lose weight. My husband averages 500gm a day weight loss using this with only cardio for 20min exercise, no weights. I'm building muscle, my loss is not so obvious "dam it!" but its coming off steadily.

It's not for everyone but it's what is recommended for people who have 'stubborn' fat from 'yo yo' dieting and for weight lifters whose bodies are confused by 'bulking' and 'leaning' all the time, 'yo yo'ing'.

Eat clean to stay lean

Gnar

carbs are needed for serotonin synthesis. no carbs no serotonin = cranky people.

According to the nutritionist I saw the "Carb Curve" is:

0-50 is considered Ketosis
50-100 is the weight loss sweet spot
100-150 - effortless weight maintenance
150-300 - Insidious Weight Gain
300-300+ danger zone

probably the most ridiculous thing I've seen
I've lost weight in the supposed "danger zone".

According to the nutritionist I saw the "Carb Curve" is:

0-50 is considered Ketosis
50-100 is the weight loss sweet spot
100-150 - effortless weight maintenance
150-300 - Insidious Weight Gain
300-300+ danger zone

probably the most ridiculous thing I've seen
I've lost weight in the supposed "danger zone".

The term "low-carbohydrate diet" is generally applied to diets that restrict carbohydrates to less than 20% of caloric intake, but can also refer to diets that simply restrict or limit carbohydrates.[4]

According to the nutritionist I saw the "Carb Curve" is:

0-50 is considered Ketosis
50-100 is the weight loss sweet spot
100-150 - effortless weight maintenance
150-300 - Insidious Weight Gain
300-300+ danger zone

This is all taken frm Mark's Daily Apple/The Primal Blueprint. She also suggested reading "New Atkins, New You". http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-book/the-primal-blueprint/#axzz2S2HjrxO4

After meeting with this woman I realized that this is not something I could do for the long haul and put it all in my drawer, where I have only used it this one time to answer you post. )

rhogr000 wrote: »

Just wondering how many carbs are considered as low carbing.
I just find it so hard to keep to less than 80 a day.

What do you think please?

Personally, I wouldn't recommend low-carb diets; they all tend to make participants tired and moody. In addition, many low-carb diet participants are encouraged to supplement their lack of carbs by consuming almost unlimited amounts of high-fat, cholesterol-laden foods like bacon. It's not a healthy lifestyle.

Personally, I try to eat between 120g-150g (sometimes more) of carbs/day. I'm pretty active with walking/cycling so I need the fuel.

blizzisme wrote: »

Its amazing the misinformation that some people put out... you need to be careful who you take advice from.

For example "ketones (partially broken-down fats) in your blood."
Ketones are not partially broken down fats... Ketones are an end product of fat metabolism used as a primary energy source. They are more efficient than sugar at powering pretty much any cell in your body(other than cancer cells).

A buildup of ketones in your blood (called ketosis) can cause your body to produce high levels of uric acid.
Actually, no. Common myth that breaks down if you actually look at the biochemistry.
Uric acid is a result of purine metabolism. Purine appears in most foods and is particularly dense in meats... This is because we need purine. If you have excessive levels of uric acid, it indicates a problem with your purine metabolism. Put it simply, you aren't processing it properly. Purine metabolism is disturbed/inhibited by sugar/cards, and the most extreme offender is fructose.
Another problem is people thinking that dietary sources of something and concentrations of that thing in your blood correlate. This is pattently false (a good example of this is cholesterol, where more than 99% of your cholesterol is manufactured in your body, and dietary sources of cholesterol have been shown repeatedly in RCTs to have almost no impact on serum cholesterol). Going really high dietary purines or really low dietary purines will give you a serum difference of maybe 1mg/dl in their urate levels. Not only this, but dietary purines actually assist with uric acid excretion.

Looked at the RCTs and the things that you will see exacerbate serum uric acid levels are alcohol, sugar(particularly fructose), and vitamin C.



As for this being safe for athletes or anyone else, here are some links to some performance athletes(the Lakers) who have switched over:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24373097/nutrition-in-the-nba-part-ii-paleo-diet-taking-hold-for-variety-of-reasons
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24370760/nutrition-in-the-nba-part-i-dwight-howard-qa


They actually talk about the low energy and the moodiness that some people have mentioned, and I've experienced it myself. It is called withdrawal, and what you experience depends on the depth of your addiction to sugar/carbs. In my case it took about 2 weeks to get over it. I know some people who took as long as a month and others who were over it in days. Sugar is a highly addictive substance. Google the terms sugar, addiction, trial... You can add other keywords like neurochemical or behavioral also. You will find articles from all the major journals on RCTs for it, cohort studies, medical analyses(Seem to recall a couple of them with MRIs of people seeing their response to sugar as compared to the responses of addicts to other drugs)...