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  • MsJulielicious
    MsJulielicious Posts: 708 Member
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    I also have pcos.
    Weight loss seemed slow when I started out.
    I asked my Dr. to put me on something to help (this was almost 2 years ago) She said NOPE
    Keep counting calories, keep working hard (cardio and strength training)
    So, I did.
    I'm in the best shape I have ever been and am grateful for her for not prescribing something with terrible side effects

    You CAN do this w/o meds
    Gl to you!
  • redheaddee
    redheaddee Posts: 2,005 Member
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    PCOS, asthma, and your doctor gave you speed? I suggest getting a new doctor.
  • MsJulielicious
    MsJulielicious Posts: 708 Member
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    PCOS, asthma, and your doctor gave you speed? I suggest getting a new doctor.

    YES
  • HerbertNenenger
    HerbertNenenger Posts: 453 Member
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    I have not taken any diet pills, but also have pcos. My symptoms are 75% gone now. I stick with a low sugar and lower carb (less than 100 grams per day). I also avoid highly processed foods like bread rice, pasra, cereal and all fruit juice. Pcos is because of high insulin production. Simple carbs will exacerbate the problem. Have you tried tweaking your protein/fat/carb percentages? I am at 35/35/30 and is working just fine. 60 lbs in 6 months with little exercise.
  • 1princesswarrior
    1princesswarrior Posts: 1,242 Member
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    Not trying to be rude or a hater here, this is a serious question I think you should consider. Why not give this a try first by eating food at a reasonable deficit considering you have pcos and develop an exercise plan before trying a drug where you need additional injections and close medical supervision? IMO I would want the drug to be my absolute last option.
  • Akimajuktuq
    Akimajuktuq Posts: 3,037 Member
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    dude just eat right and exercise. think of it this way: even if you lose all that weight with the pill, how will you maintain your new weight? will you take the pill forever? no, you'll have to exercise and eat right, like you should've been doing to lose weight in the first place. it's a skill, not a hard one, but still you need to LEARN a new lifestyle. you might as well learn to do that properly while you lose weight.

    First, I'm a woman not a dude. Secondly, I have two medical conditions that would benefit greatly from weight loss (PCOS and asthma). I lost the weight that I did lose (the 22 pounds) in 2012. I have been under close supervision of a medical doctor (because of the asthma) and dieting/ exercising and nothing was working. The prescription is a start not a "forever".

    BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION!

    The medical conditions can be treated by changing WHAT you eat. True story. Obesity is a correlation with other metabolic issues, not the cause. Your doctor is likely not educated in nutrition, or metabolic disorders, and likely has no business treating it. See a metabolic specialist.

    You asked a question and people are not always going to give you the answer you like. Drugs, especially for weight loss, suck, they are not a solution, and they can even kill you. Changing your lifestyle is much safer. Not as quick, but safer and more effective over the long term. Good luck.
  • vjohn04
    vjohn04 Posts: 2,276 Member
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    You probably won't find much support for this method of weight loss here. It's basically legal amphetamines/speed.

    I wouldn't be surprised if this thread gets locked.
  • sunnymoon8
    sunnymoon8 Posts: 14 Member
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    I have been on it before and I did lose weight with it. The doctor that gave me the pills advised me it was only to get me started. That I would need to stay at around 1200 calories and make sure I exercise. You have to remember to eat healthy. The pills sometimes made me not hungry at all and could go all day without eating, but that is not good, you need to make sure you eat. You do not want to go into starvation mode. I lost 10 pounds a month or 2 months that I was on the pills, but instead of keeping my low carb low cal diet once I was finished taking pills, I went back to eating sweets which is my addiction and I gained it back and then some.


    I am not a doctor or work in the medical industry, but I will say that in my opinion, if you plan to use these pills, please start watching your diet and do exercise daily. By the time you are finished taking pills in 2 or 3 months you will be used to eating less and hopefully adopted a healthy diet and a exercise regimen.

    Good luck to you!
  • jenns1964
    jenns1964 Posts: 384 Member
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    I took it when I started MFP with great success. I did not gain the weight back, in fact, I lost 20 more. I started it because I have used it in the past. I had no energy and needed the push to get myself off the couch after a bout of depression and being diagnosed with fibromyalgia. Once i started exercising regularly and eating better I didn't need the extra energy anymore.
  • chancepatrick
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    I will answer that for you. I have taken Phentermine, prescription strength because, like you, I have PCOS and nothing would help me lose weight. I did find Metformin helpful for a while though at maintaining my weight. . I didn't find Phentermine effective at all. It didn't change any of my cravings, but I did have a bit of the jitteriness that most diet medicines have. Unfortunately, through many years of diet meds, as well as with the bypass, I developed non-alcoholic fatty liver. I would be careful of the side effects. It's really hard to have an illness that affects your weight, but many people do. There are a number of PCOS support sites out there. I would suggest that you review the information about the phentermine on different sites to get the skinny on all of it. Having done all the diet meds, as well as weight loss surgery, I decided to just try to eat differently and exercise for a bit. I would love to cheer you on if you need a friend. :wink:
  • jenifr818
    jenifr818 Posts: 805 Member
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    IGNORE THE HATERS.

    Phentermine worked for me.


    In June 2013, my physician started me on a medically supervised 1200 calorie weight loss program. I took Phentermine for appetite suppressant in the morning, visited his office once each week for a B-complex shot, and got an In-Body analysis each month.

    The Physician's Assistant suggested I try MyFitnessPal to go along with my 1200 calorie diet, and I am quite pleased that he did. This has been a great way to track my food -- I tried hand writing my own tracker but it was a disaster.

    For the first month, I took 18.5 mg phentermine each morning, and found myself consuming around 1450 calories. The appetite suppressant gave me the control to avoid cravings and start making choices about my food. However, I did not start learning seriously until the second month.

    For the second and third months, I took 37mg phentermine, and regularly hit my goal of 1200 calories. I started learning how to eat at 1200 calories because it is not just about eating less of the same stuff as before; it is also about hitting my macro targets. I started walking in the second month, and increased that in the third month until I was walking 5k several times per week. I regularly hit my macro targets, and started eating back my exercise calories.

    For the fourth month, I started tapering the Phentermine back to 18.5 mg, and I shifted my calorie goal to 1600. Since I burn around 300-500 each day in exercise, I simply quit viewing it as eating back my exercise calories and started seeing it as the appropriate caloric intake for my activity level. That helps me avoid coming to the end of a day, being starving after working out, and eating whatever is handy. Eating 1200 plus eating back exercise calories always meant that I was hungry in the evening and eating whatever was handy to cover my exercise calories. Eating 1600 and not worrying about exercise calories lets me have more control over the day and over the week.

    For the fifth month, I tapered my phentermine down to 9.75mg (1/4 pill), with the goal of stopping the appetite suppressant entirely. I maintained my target of 1600 calories, although the colder weather made it a little harder to get my exercise.

    For the past 7 weeks, I have been completely off the Phentermine and I continue to make progress. I am still losing around 1 pound per week. My food choices are much better because the drug allowed me the time to learn. I cannot imagine people being able to learn about food and choices without having the support of the suppressant. I guess that's why most people who do it on their own end up failing and gaining back all of the weight. They never learned what was necessary because they were always struggling with their choices.

    I have made steady progress each month. The appetite suppressant gave me the ability to make choices and learn about food. As I have learned more, I have been able to rely less on the pills. Now I don't take them at all but I continue to use what I learned.

    Phentermine stops the cravings so you can learn how to make choices.

    Yep, because we're telling the OP not to take what is essentially speed, we're haters :noway:

    I'm glad you're doing well and learned how to make choices that worked for you as far as moderating your calories. However, you're definitely the exception and not the rule when it comes to this drug. Very few will recommend it, because most never learn proper choices and wind up right where they started and then some
  • Dreya711
    Dreya711 Posts: 79 Member
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    I took it back in 2009 and lost the weight very quickly. However, I couldn't sleep, was always agitated and as soon as I quit taking it the weight came back. In my opinion it is not a good choice. (it's speed) Diet and exercise is the way to go :) Best of luck to you.
  • sunnymoon8
    sunnymoon8 Posts: 14 Member
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    :)
  • scottkjar
    scottkjar Posts: 346 Member
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    Yep, because we're telling the OP not to take what is essentially speed, we're haters :noway:

    I'm glad you're doing well and learned how to make choices that worked for you as far as moderating your calories. However, you're definitely the exception and not the rule when it comes to this drug. Very few will recommend it, because most never learn proper choices and wind up right where they started and then some

    I recognize that not everyone learns to make good food choices. That is irrespective of Phentermine. I would say that most of the people on MFP -- with or without Phentermine -- never learn how to eat correctly (judging from the comments in the forums), and MFP is a far better population than the population at large.

    I'm pleased that you have now recognized that Phentermine might be of some benefit to some people who are trying to lose weight. And as such, your future comment might be that no diet pill is a cure-all, and that many people don't succeed, but that some do succeed using Phentermine.

    That IS your new position, is it not? Or are you still rejecting all uses for all people under all circumstances?
  • happieharpie
    happieharpie Posts: 229 Member
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    I took it several years ago and had zero results, so don't blame yourself if it doesn't help. Some of us just seem to be able to override it and keep on eating. My appetite just remained as it was.

    It may also have been because I had taken Meridia a while before I took phentermine.

    Meridia was WONDERFUL for as long as it worked, but when it stopped working I regained about 75 pounds in about 17 minutes.

    I've never actually known anyone who maintained weight loss after using one of these medications. I'm not saying that it's impossible- just that no one I ever knew was able to do it.

    I wish you good luck with whatever you find helpful.

    Wanted to add- I knew the difference between eating well and eating badly BEFORE I took Meridia, and as you've noted, I couldn't fight cravings enought to be successful.

    Before I embarked on my present course of action, the most successful attempt I've ever made in about 50 years, I researched everything I could find about craving and binging. I've found that limiting salt and sugar seems to go a long way to help me control craving, as well as including a measured portion of nuts each time I eat.

    A highly nutritious diet also seems to help. My meals are based on veggies, berries or green apples, eggs and egg whites and nuts. I have meats every once in a while on no particular schedule. I eat the same foods most evenings. I eat no grain added sugar or added salt, and my daily dairy is a couple TBSPS OF 1/2&1/2 in my morning coffee. Since eating this way I've craved very, very infrequently and if I've binged, I'm very positively reinforced by getting back to business the next day.

    I believe we all have to find and be comfortable in our own way of doing this work.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
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    Yep, because we're telling the OP not to take what is essentially speed, we're haters :noway:

    I'm glad you're doing well and learned how to make choices that worked for you as far as moderating your calories. However, you're definitely the exception and not the rule when it comes to this drug. Very few will recommend it, because most never learn proper choices and wind up right where they started and then some

    I recognize that not everyone learns to make good food choices. That is irrespective of Phentermine. I would say that most of the people on MFP -- with or without Phentermine -- never learn how to eat correctly (judging from the comments in the forums), and MFP is a far better population than the population at large.

    I'm pleased that you have now recognized that Phentermine might be of some benefit to some people who are trying to lose weight. And as such, your future comment might be that no diet pill is a cure-all, and that many people don't succeed, but that some do succeed using Phentermine.

    That IS your new position, is it not? Or are you still rejecting all uses for all people under all circumstances?

    That would only have to be their position if they thought that the only way for you to have learned to moderate your eating was by taking the drug.
  • leslie_shoemaker
    leslie_shoemaker Posts: 22 Member
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    I took it several years ago and had zero results, so don't blame yourself if it doesn't help. Some of us just seem to be able to override it and keep on eating. My appetite just remained as it was.

    It may also have been because I had taken Meridia a while before I took phentermine.

    Meridia was WONDERFUL for as long as it worked, but when it stopped working I regained about 75 pounds in about 17 minutes.

    I've never actually known anyone who maintained weight loss after using one of these medications. I'm not saying that it's impossible- just that no one I ever knew was able to do it.

    I wish you good luck with whatever you find helpful.

    Wanted to add- I knew the difference between eating well and eating badly BEFORE I took Meridia, and as you've noted, I couldn't fight cravings enought to be successful.

    Before I embarked on my present course of action, the most successful attempt I've ever made in about 50 years, I researched everything I could find about craving and binging. I've found that limiting salt and sugar seems to go a long way to help me control craving, as well as including a measured portion of nuts each time I eat.

    A highly nutritious diet also seems to help. My meals are based on veggies, berries or green apples, eggs and egg whites and nuts. I have meats every once in a while on no particular schedule. I eat the same foods most evenings. I eat no grain added sugar or added salt, and my daily dairy is a couple TBSPS OF 1/2&1/2 in my morning coffee. Since eating this way I've craved very, very infrequently and if I've binged, I'm very positively reinforced by getting back to business the next day.

    I believe we all have to find and be comfortable in our own way of doing this work.

    Your comment about 17 minutes made me laugh. Hysterical. I'm currently working on my cravings for sugar. I've eliminated soda and sweets. I know this is a "cure". I just wanted a little help. We shall see.
  • HappyChater
    HappyChater Posts: 3 Member
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    I took it back in 2011 for 2 months and with diet & exercising.. I lost 27lbs in 4months. After 2 babies, I tried it again last month for 3 weeks. I started having major breathing issues and my heart hurt all the time. My blood pressure would shoot up along with my heart rate. I even woke up in a sweat with my heart rate at 118. This was from taking half of the 37mg pill at 8am. I stopped taking it and my heart feels "healthier". I am not severely over weight. I have a BMI of 30% and I have never had any medical issues except having my Gall Bladder removed. This medicine really scared me this time! If any of you are taking it or think about taking it.. please read all side effects. The 1st time I took it I only had a few side effects.. mood swings, dry mouth, head aches. This time I had about every side effect listed. Don't use phentermine for a short term goal. If you do not change your eating/exercising habits you will gain the weight back!
  • cruciia
    cruciia Posts: 94 Member
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    i have taken phentermine/duromine/reductil before and on it lost over 30kg (66lbs).

    Many say that you will just regain the weight you lost, however you will regain the weight you lost with ANY diet if you do not relearn healthy eating habits and correct your food portions. I kept my weight off for two years until a death in the family made my emotional eating skyrocket again.

    The side effects I had were dry mouth and my heart was constantly beating faster, which made it more difficult to sleep. However, it was easier to function on less sleep.

    Feel free to add me as a friend, or message me if you have any questions.
  • janesmith1
    janesmith1 Posts: 1,511 Member
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    The "grave and serious heart valve" issue would definitely deter a lot of people from this.

    This is a story about the Rise & Fall of Fen-Phen. The PHEN in Fen-Phen was Phenteramine, what the OP was prescribed.

    Scary stuff. But then again, it reminds me of other "doctor" advice given to my family. Douche with Lysol (great aunt). Give speed to my gm for weight loss. Cigarettes are fine, etc.

    OP, not slamming on you at all, but this article is enlightening.

    http://www.dartmouth.edu/~chance/course/Syllabi/97Dartmouth/day-2/fen-phen-1.pdf