Sleep and anxiety help!
I have been having problems with sleep and insomnia for months. My family have traveled out of state early last month and the month before and have experienced the death of my nana last month and because I am a worrywart and get anxious fairly easily, it's getting harder and harder for me to get to sleep!
I know neither one of these things are good for my health, but no matter how hard I try, I can't manage my sleep problems and anxiety for long. I exercise more often than I used to, but I still get anxious for no reason or my brain just won't shut off when I need it to. Do you have any helpful advice on how to get my sleep cycle back on track and manage anxiety?
Also, for about two years now, I have been experiencing fluttering in my chest. Most likely it's because of my anxiety, but I still worry that something else is going on and that makes my sleep problems worse. My doctor hasn't found anything wrong with my heart, but I still worry about it. Any ideas on what I can do?
I know neither one of these things are good for my health, but no matter how hard I try, I can't manage my sleep problems and anxiety for long. I exercise more often than I used to, but I still get anxious for no reason or my brain just won't shut off when I need it to. Do you have any helpful advice on how to get my sleep cycle back on track and manage anxiety?
Also, for about two years now, I have been experiencing fluttering in my chest. Most likely it's because of my anxiety, but I still worry that something else is going on and that makes my sleep problems worse. My doctor hasn't found anything wrong with my heart, but I still worry about it. Any ideas on what I can do?
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I feel like I have absolutely no right to respond to this since I have never had serious problems sleeping. I do have generalized anxiety disorder (have had it my entire life) but I have not experienced the fluttery feeling you describe.
But I'll respond anyway because I feel like you need some ideas on what to do! I apologize in advance if it sounds dumb.
Consider trying to "shut down" at a specific time each evening. I don't know your schedule, but let's say 9 pm...do whatever bedtime preparations you need to do (brush teeth or whatever), then go to your quiet space or even bedroom and turn out most lights and just RELAX. If you have a pet or SO this could be a good time to just snuggle and relax. Do not look at your phone, watch TV, etc. I personally would not even listen to music. I also wouldn't eat or drink anything during that time. Just breathe deeply and maybe do some very light reading. Allow yourself to think, fret even. Allow yourself to be alert and awake but still physically winding down and becoming more calm.
Then after 30 min or an hour, get in your bed and turn out all of the lights and decide it is time to go to sleep. Much easier said than done, I realize, for people who have sleeping difficulties. But for me this works as I don't rush around and then get into bed and feel all worried and like it's a time for thinking and planning and fretting. I hope that makes sense even just a bit. Get up at the same time each morning, too.
When I was unemployed for awhile, I used to allow myself to get off track by staying up until all hours of the night and then sleeping in. While I don't think there is anything wrong with sleeping late, and still do so most Sunday mornings...I think there is a lot of good in having a regular sleep schedule. I wish you luck and sorry about your Nana.0 -
I would consider therapy at this point.0
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have you had your thyroid checked, when mine acts up I have all the same symptoms, if you haven't had it checked make sure the DR does a full panel not the basic test.0
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What works for me: cognitive behavioral therapy, meditation/deep breathing and medication (if the other two don't help enough).0
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I highly recommend meditation for the sleeping issue. It will also help ease your anxiety. As far as dealing with the loss of your nana, if you can't get past it on your own you could seek the advice of a clinical hypnotherapist. I lost both my parents within the last three years and I just couldn't get over it on my own. I had one session with a clinical hypnotherapist and I have been a new person ever since. Wishing you peace and rest.0
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my doc found nothing wrong with my heart the first time it was checked out. I have a benign sort of heart arrhythmia, and it had to actually be fluttering at the time for them to find it. they can put a 24 hour trace on you, if they're so inclined, that would pick something like that up.
I wake up in the night if my heart does a particularly long pause or an extra violent wobble.
...this might be absolutely nothing like what's going on with you, but I thought i'd share. I had years of people thinking I was just being neurotic when in fact I had a real, physical issue. my anxiety levels fell as soon as I knew it wasn't dangerous. a mild irritation at most.0 -
I have struggled with anxiety for years and have dealt with the same thing. Regular exercise is very helpful but I personally have found my diet plays a huge role in whether I have anxiety attacks. I have a number of food intolerances so my own personal chemistry is at play here but you may want to consider your diet.
Things that are a definite trigger for me are;
Artificial sweeteners (I can do Stevia or a little Xylitol but that's it)
Too much caffeine is an obvious one
Alcohol
I can't eat nightshades (potatoes, eggplant, tomatoes or peppers)
I am also grain free, not because I'm doing a "diet" of some kind but because through the process of elimination I have discovered that not only can I not do gluten but most grains make my body hurt. Since going grain free I have noticed I feel much more peaceful and my anxiety levels are at an all time low. It was a nice surprise side effect. I don't know if it's because of the way I react to grains of the lower carb content in my diet but I'm happy about it. (As you can imagine, not being able to eat potatoes or grains makes it a struggle to get enough carbs. I don't low carb on purpose. I eat sweet potatoes and drink green smoothies to help in that area.)
I'm not saying you should eat like me and you'll have success, I'm just pointing out that diet is often overlooked when considering anxiety.
One thing I do before bed is have a cup of herbal tea (preferably a calming one like chamomile) with some plain gelatin dissolved in it. I started taking gelatin for other reasons but found if I do it shortly before bed it helps me get into deep sleep better. Before I wouldn't hit that stage until it was almost time to get up.0 -
I understand very well the feeling that you can't shut your brain off at night. My husband used to constantly tell me to "just relax" because my sleeping habits were horrible because of my anxiety. I would lay down, exhausted, only to get up 20 or 30 minutes later because all I was doing was thinking/worrying about all the things I had to accomplish the next day.
I started taking melatonin supplements (at the recommendation of my doctor. I wouldn't recommend anyone just start taking it). Also, I started meditating for about 1/2 hour a day, right before bed. It was hard at first but after a few months I was able to train my brain to just shut off, making it easier for me to fall asleep and allowing me to take melatonin less.
The problem with anxiety and sleep issues is that no two people are alike. What worked for me might not work for you. My biggest suggestion would be to start experimenting with different things and find out what works best for you.0 -
I did take a 5mg dose of melatonin a coupl nights ago, but it wasn't as effective as I thought it would be. Maybe it was the dosage. Also, I've been without a job for about a year even after I graduated from college and I passed the veterinary technician boards exam and the state licensing board exam, still nothing. I keep thinking, if I had a job, getting to sleep would be a lot easier. Is this true?0
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I've been dealing with depression/anxiety for pretty much my whole life. I get that fluttery feeling sometimes, too, basically at the onset of a panic or anxiety attack. I used to have like 5 a day and they'd last for hours. I ended up seeing a shrink and he gave me a prescription (after I tried 2 or 3 before that turned me into a zombie) and I finally felt like myself for once. I rarely have anxiety attacks and when I do, it's usually because I've skipped a day or two of my meds.
So maybe try seeing your doctor. Don't worry about the fluttering, I really doubt it's anything more than an anxiety attack. As for getting to sleep, malatonin helps a lot. It has something to do with darkness...when it's dark, your body produces malatonin to help you sleep. So if it's not dark enough or your body isn't producing enough, you can have issues sleeping. It's a natural product and takes very little. You can get in the form of drops or little pills. Just put one or two of either under your tongue and head to bed. Try reading a really boring, slow book while you wait, drink a glass of warm milk or Sleepytime tea.
Also, avoid using your bedroom for anything but sex and sleep. It'll be easier for your brain to shut off if it know that's what that space is for, not watching movies and playing video games.0 -
I have been having problems with sleep and insomnia for months. My family have traveled out of state early last month and the month before and have experienced the death of my nana last month and because I am a worrywart and get anxious fairly easily, it's getting harder and harder for me to get to sleep!
I know neither one of these things are good for my health, but no matter how hard I try, I can't manage my sleep problems and anxiety for long. I exercise more often than I used to, but I still get anxious for no reason or my brain just won't shut off when I need it to. Do you have any helpful advice on how to get my sleep cycle back on track and manage anxiety?
Also, for about two years now, I have been experiencing fluttering in my chest. Most likely it's because of my anxiety, but I still worry that something else is going on and that makes my sleep problems worse. My doctor hasn't found anything wrong with my heart, but I still worry about it. Any ideas on what I can do?
Chamomile Tea, Soothing Music, Turn of Electronics / Ambient Lighting 30 mins before bed, Reading Before Bed (Probably best to stay away from Stephen King for now), Valerian Root, or a couple shots of whisky. I used to be on xanax, that stuff would allow me to fall asleep on a plane....and I HATE planes. It's good to help you ease your mind with anxiety....I just don't recommend taking it on a long term basis because it'll change your personality a little over long periods of time taking it.0 -
I think I'll try changing my habits, maybe try meditation and yoga about thirty minutes to an hour before I go to bed, not having very bright light on before bed and having the window curtains open during the day. I don't want to be dependent on melatonin or Benadryl in order to get sleep, believe me, that's the last thing I want. I don't drink a lot of caffeine nowadays, I mainly drink water now.0
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I have been having problems with sleep ...
I've never slept well. A good night sleep is 6 hour, but I usually get around 4 or 5 on average. It was much worse when I had a bout with depression and anxiety. Went to the doctor, saw a counselor, started eating right, and exercised my butt off. All that helped.0 -
I did take a 5mg dose of melatonin a coupl nights ago, but it wasn't as effective as I thought it would be. Maybe it was the dosage. Also, I've been without a job for about a year even after I graduated from college and I passed the veterinary technician boards exam and the state licensing board exam, still nothing. I keep thinking, if I had a job, getting to sleep would be a lot easier. Is this true?
Melatonin won't work like a sleeping pill and just knock you out. You need to combine it with other relaxation techniques to find the most benefit, at least in my experience. Cup of herbal tea, meditation, and I fall asleep much easier.
Also, if you are suffering from from anxiety getting a job might help for a bit but eventually you'll just find new things to be anxious about. Best to also work on your issues with sleeping and anxiety as soon as possible.0 -
I am having similar problems, but these arent new to me....I have had generalized anxiety since my teens. However, due to recent stress; work, family, etc...it has flared up and insomnia has kicked in.
I would try the melatonin and definitely read up on relaxation and stress relief. Also, going to see a counselor is a huge help with anxiety issues.
Good Luck!0
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