Juicing, baby.
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Hey, I have the Philips juicer, £60. It was recommended by 'which', Jason Vale also recommends Philips, although Philips do different juicers at different prices. Love mine. I would also recommend anything from Jason Vale, he has a lot of information in his books/apps and is very motivational.
I've done a 6 day juice. Skin felt amazing and you become very clear headed. I have ADHD and was able to clean the whole flat in one go, OK that may not sound like a big deal but that would normally be something I just wouldn't be capable of. Other things would catch my attention, I would procrastinate and lose concentration.
Just eating clean and cutting things out of your diet won't make you feel like juicing does.
One other thing, I noticed you've replied to every negative comment, personally I would skip the negative comments to keep myself positive. Don't feel you have to stand up for yourself or explain yourself. There's nothing wrong with what they are saying and people have very strong thoughts on the subject, but it's also OK to have a difference of opinion too. Just saying. Best of luck :flowerforyou:0 -
I haven't read all the posts, but I'll give you a recipe I use on occasion:
* 2-2.5 cups of water
* 2 handfuls of spinach
* half a .......bunch?....lol, half a thing of kale
* half a thing of chard
* 1 carrot
Blend until smooth(ish)
*1 pear
*1 apple (I like the green granny smith ones)
*1 banana
*a couple of grapes
*1 small wedge of lemon (rind intact)
Blend again. Done!
If you want it more like a smoothie, fill it with ice rather than water. I use this Ninja blender, but really any blender will work, so long as you don't mind your drink being a little chunky. My fiance wants to start drinking these but he has a real bad thing about texture, so we're looking into an upgrade for a smoother product.
That being said, I use this only because my stubborn eating habits are hard to break and I wouldn't get so many vegetables and fruits in my diet otherwise. You shouldn't use the words "detox" or "cleanse" when appealing to a diet because its a complete falsehood that toxins build up in the body from so called "processed" food. Any detoxifying necessary for good health is already accomplished by both the liver and kidneys.
And the reason why you've gotten so many sarcastic and somewhat condescending remarks is because the topics of detox and cleansing diets has been brought up in the forums at least once a day, everyday. Usually by people who won't heed the sound advice of other posters.
I don't want to sound mean when I say this, but if you ever want to learn information about something, you should type keywords into the Search bar in the forums first, because most likely it has already been approached and answered.
But, good luck on your weight loss/better health journey!
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Thanks! This has been really helpful to read! I've been a member on MFP for a while but have only started really using it and looking around in the last several days, so it's helpful to know where I can find existing topics on the things I'm wondering.
I try to collect advice and tips from the responses I get (I've actually written a list of the articles that people have linked me to) and I write down additional questions I have as a result, if any. I don't really see the point in posting if I'm not going to even be open to opposing viewpoints, lol.0 -
This is a great thread. OP, glad you educated yourself and also glad you're trying to incorporate more micronutrients.
If you're bent on remaining vegetarian/vegan through this process, make sure you have a good source of fats in your diet. Nut butters, nuts, avocados, etc.
Avocado blended with a tomato, onion, some hot sauce, cilantro, and a dash of lime is my favorite. If you add greek yogurt and water, it's a pretty creamy shake.0 -
The thing I've never understood about juicing is how it could possibly be any different than just eating fresh veg and fruit.
To me, the only thing you're doing is losing the fibre, which isn't necessarily a good thing, and cutting the time it takes to chew.
I have nothing against doing it, if you're getting the nutrients you need, I just don't understand the logic over just eat real food.0 -
This is a great thread. OP, glad you educated yourself and also glad you're trying to incorporate more micronutrients.
If you're bent on remaining vegetarian/vegan through this process, make sure you have a good source of fats in your diet. Nut butters, nuts, avocados, etc.
Avocado blended with a tomato, onion, some hot sauce, cilantro, and a dash of lime is my favorite. If you add greek yogurt and water, it's a pretty creamy shake.
Wow, that sounds really good! I'll have to write this one down too! Thanks for the suggestion.0 -
The thing I've never understood about juicing is how it could possibly be any different than just eating fresh veg and fruit.
To me, the only thing you're doing is losing the fibre, which isn't necessarily a good thing, and cutting the time it takes to chew.
I have nothing against doing it, if you're getting the nutrients you need, I just don't understand the logic over just eat real food.
I don't have anything against eating tons of fruit and veg, but my main issue is time. I'm on the road all day for work and juicing (or as I'm recently discovering, blending the veggies/fruits) makes it easier to take in a LOT of good stuff more quickly and it's also pretty portable.
I love food. I love eating. I'd much rather sit down and be able to enjoy a plate of veg and fruit, but that's not doable most weekdays for me. 0 -
Hey thanks, I'm really glad you posted this! I found both of these extremely helpful and am re-thinking the juice idea. I'm glad you had these handy!0 -
The thing I've never understood about juicing is how it could possibly be any different than just eating fresh veg and fruit.
To me, the only thing you're doing is losing the fibre, which isn't necessarily a good thing, and cutting the time it takes to chew.
I have nothing against doing it, if you're getting the nutrients you need, I just don't understand the logic over just eat real food.
I don't have anything against eating tons of fruit and veg, but my main issue is time. I'm on the road all day for work and juicing (or as I'm recently discovering, blending the veggies/fruits) makes it easier to take in a LOT of good stuff more quickly and it's also pretty portable. I love food. I love eating. I'd much rather sit down and be able to enjoy a plate of veg and fruit, but that's not doable most weekdays for me.
Thanks for the response. That actually makes sense to me. Working in a time crunch but still getting healthy stuff rather than store bought shakes and such0 -
The thing I've never understood about juicing is how it could possibly be any different than just eating fresh veg and fruit.
To me, the only thing you're doing is losing the fibre, which isn't necessarily a good thing, and cutting the time it takes to chew.
I have nothing against doing it, if you're getting the nutrients you need, I just don't understand the logic over just eat real food.
I don't have anything against eating tons of fruit and veg, but my main issue is time. I'm on the road all day for work and juicing (or as I'm recently discovering, blending the veggies/fruits) makes it easier to take in a LOT of good stuff more quickly and it's also pretty portable. I love food. I love eating. I'd much rather sit down and be able to enjoy a plate of veg and fruit, but that's not doable most weekdays for me.
Thanks for the response. That actually makes sense to me. Working in a time crunch but still getting healthy stuff rather than store bought shakes and such
For sure! I shy away from buying shakes and pre-made juices. I think my original post made people think I'm anti real food... uhh.. nope. I adore food. I didn't get this heavy by being indifferent to food! Lol. I'm just looking to continue making healthy changes. At this point, I feel I'm ready for more drastic ones. Juicing is looking less and less like the change I need to make, but that's okay. I'll find the right one!0 -
To clarify my position on this...
Exclusively juicing seems like a bad idea to me with little real benefit. Adding some juice to an otherwise well-balanced calorie controlled diet is okay. Adding a smoothie (where the whole edible fruit or veggies is consumed) seems like an even better idea.0 -
To clarify my position on this...
Exclusively juicing seems like a bad idea to me with little real benefit. Adding some juice to an otherwise well-balanced calorie controlled diet is okay. Adding a smoothie (where the whole edible fruit or veggies is consumed) seems like an even better idea.
I agree. I didn't mean to imply in my original post (or any of my posts) that I think juicing will having some magical effect on my health that I couldn't get elsewhere. Blending up fruits and veggies is a good and manageable way for me, an extremely busy working woman, to make sure those fruits and veg actually end up IN my body during the day. That's the most important thing. I've already been eating at a deficit and working out, as I have a pretty significant amount of weight to lose, and I'm working on more closely monitoring my macros. I'm a realist, and even though I can be naive about some things, I tend to get brought back down to earth pretty easily given good reason. :laugh:0 -
First, I can't say that I think replacing all of your meals with juicing is a good idea. I've seen the documentaries too. It's just not realistic. You need calories, and you will not get enough of them by juicing, and just drinking fruits and veggies. I will say, however, that juicing is a great way to get a lot of extra fruits and veggies into your diet. I've done juicing, and it's great, although it's a bit of a PITA, to be honest. Lots of extra vitamins and nutrients! Also, I've found that adding a slice or two of lemon or lime, and about a half inch slice of ginger, can help the taste of just about anything you want to juice. With some lemon and ginger, I was able to do a juice with kale, cucumber, tomatoes, apples, green peppers, and just about anything else I could think up. When I was juicing, I would replace maybe one meal, or have it as a snack. It's really not many calories at all!!! It is good for you though, but you really should still eat your fruits and veggies whole, for the fiber, also. Good luck OP!!!0
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Artificial sweeteners and other processed stuff that the body doesn't need or benefit from.
Not drugs or anything. :P
I'm curious. How will you know that you are detoxed? Can you feel it? Is there a test? I am genuinely interested in how you know it works.
I'm a bit of a nerd, so I do a lot of reading and digging to find out what people say about things like this. I've also heard several people in my life who have tried this share similar results. Among them are clearer skin and nails that aren't as brittle, and what appeals to me most- people have told me their "cognitive fog" had lifted. Large amounts of additives in foods from being processed and flavored and colored can make us feel a bit foggy (I definitely feel it!) and when we allow those to exit the body and replace them with things our body actually runs on, many times folks notice that they think more clearly and are more attentive and focused.
My idea of juicing is not to use it for weight-loss. Weight-loss is a byproduct of spending time juicing, but my primary method of weight loss is eating at a calorie deficit and incorporating cardio and strength training into my life. If I were to detox for a few days and then resume eating mostly plant-based, naturally occurring foods along with my physical activity, I can't imagine that I wouldn't feel better on the whole.
There are lots of "clean eating" books out there. I like food so juicing isn't for me but I make a fresh juice once in a while I find carrot and apple make juices too sweet so i will usually juice in a lemon (peeled) to cut the sweetness.0 -
Btw OP , if you juice there is still pulp...the reason juicing isnt bad is that if you ate ALL that fiber you could have some intestinal irritation. So, you still get fiber, you still get the cals and carbs you get a "balanced" diet if you juice...if you are doing it for seven days, the fat content isnt really a huge deal, but if you are THAT worried about it, you can add a tablespoon of coconut oil or whatever oil youd like. Juicing is a quick way to get nutrient inside you without putting the stress on your intestine.
Juices I did
1-2 tomatoes
3 cucumbers
9 apples
1-2 bundles kale
1-2 bundles spinach
2 bags celery
1 lb bag carrots
2 beets
1.5 inch piece ginger
3 lemons or 2 oranges or 2 grapefruits
2 heads brocoli
1-2 ccoves garlic
This makes about 9 mason jars worth. Be sure to cut your veggies up in inch peices thzt are stringy (celery, leafy greens ) so it wont clog the juicer. You can even juice some pineapple instead of the lemons, and if you want you can put some blueberries or whatever fruits you like in there.0 -
Consuming juices in moderation, as part of a healthy and balanced diet can be beneficial.....personally I would never do it though.
I read an interview recently with Joe Cross and even he said a beginner should only try it for a few days and if you do it longer
you should do it under a care of a physician and get blood work checked once a week.
Some good reads......
http://www.ballingerathleticperformance.com/juice-fasting-pointless-waste-time-money/
http://www.mayoclinic.org/juicing/expert-answers/FAQ-20058020
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/health/story/2012-03-12/Done-properly-juicing-can-play-role-in-healthy-diet/53498466/10 -
Yeah, I'm nervous about how long I can make it last honestly, haha. I know it needs to be several days. How many would you recommend for a first-time juice faster?
It doesn't need to be any days. Juice if you like, as part of a normal healthy diet. But going without fiber, protein or fats for any length of time is foolish IMO.0 -
Juicing violates my main rule:
Never do anything today that you aren't willing to do every day for the rest of my life.
I could never live on juice, so today (and every day) I eat a wide variety of wholesome foods and enjoy a few treats that fit in my calorie levels. Do this every day for the rest of your life.
Juicing removes essential elements from the whole food, makes a big mess in the kitchen, and is hugely expensive. There are three reasons I don't see any reason to do it.0 -
Juicing is fine! Ignore the naysayers!
Yes, it can be expensive because you're using more food to produce the juice and you should use only organic if you're doing this for a long period (more than a few days) because you will also be getting extra toxins from the non-organic foods along with the extra nutrients. That would be counterproductive.
For inspiration, recipes, and meal plans, check out the website for the guy who produced the documentary, Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead. He did a juice only diet and walked across America. His website does not encourage only juice for that long, but it does encourage juice and whole fruits & veggies (raw & cooked) and he has lots of recipes and meal plans.
If you do only juice for a few days, you may (MAY) find yourself feeling weak and tired within the first few days and your bowels will clean out and then you will feel better, more energetic, and ready to continue. Watch his video and learn more if you haven't already.
Good luck with this!0 -
I used to juice (loved it but got lazy with it). Now I have a magic bullet and make green smoothies. Less waste I guess.0
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He did a juice only diet and walked across America.
Sorry, but I had to truly LOL at that one.... :laugh: He did have a car. And a film crew.
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I LOVE 1 CUP OF ALMOND MILK, 4 CUPS OF FRESH SPINACH, 1 CUP FROZEN BLUEBERRIES AND STRAWBERRIES, I DON'T HAVE A JUICER, SO I JUST BLEND IT IN MORE OF A SMOOTHIE. I HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING 4 CUPS OF GREENS DOWN IN A SALAD FORM TWICE A DAY SO THIS IS ONE WAY I GET MY VEGGIES/FRUITS IN.0
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I love juice detoxes and they do make you feel awesome after the first few days (which are hell on earth). I wonder how many people who have replied in the negative have actually tried a juice detox.... The main benefits of juicing are that these days it is impossible to eat enough fresh fruit and vegetables to get the nutrients we need because of modern farming practices depleting the soil of nutrients/chemical fertilisers etc etc (hence why organic is always best). By juicing, you are getting more nutrients because you can drink a lot more veggies than you can eat.
Some helpful tips for successful juicing:-
- get the best quality of juicer you can afford and if your budget allows get a twin-gear or masticating juicer.
- make sure it is easy to clean - nothing stops a juice detox faster than a juice machine that is a pain in the @$$ to clean
- use completely organic produce as much as you can otherwise you will still be introducing toxins into your body (through pesticide residue etc) than if just eating regular fruit/vegetables. Or you could peel everything to minimise the pesiticide residue.
Watch the documentary "Fat Sick and Nearly Dead" if you can get your hands on it - proof that juicing is good for us. I would recommend at least a week for a juice detox the first time you try it as it takes a few days to feel the benefits. The first couple of days really do feel like you are detoxing from drugs ha ha.
P.S love the idea of adding healthy nut oils to your juices to get fats. I do this with green smoothies which I practically live on.
Good luck!0 -
Consuming juices in moderation, as part of a healthy and balanced diet can be beneficial.....personally I would never do it though.
I read an interview recently with Joe Cross and even he said a beginner should only try it for a few days and if you do it longer
you should do it under a care of a physician and get blood work checked once a week.
Some good reads......
http://www.ballingerathleticperformance.com/juice-fasting-pointless-waste-time-money/
http://www.mayoclinic.org/juicing/expert-answers/FAQ-20058020
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/health/story/2012-03-12/Done-properly-juicing-can-play-role-in-healthy-diet/53498466/1
These are great articles! All are now bookmarked.
Thanks for your input! 0 -
I wonder how many people who have replied in the negative have actually tried a juice detox....
No one on earth has ever tried a juice detox because there's no such thing.
The word "detox" actually means something, and it doesn't mean "drinking water and/or juice."The main benefits of juicing are that these days it is impossible to eat enough fresh fruit and vegetables to get the nutrients we need because of modern farming practices depleting the soil of nutrients/chemical fertilisers etc etc (hence why organic is always best).
I don't think "organic" means what you think it means.By juicing, you are getting more nutrients because you can drink a lot more veggies than you can eat.
The implication is that more nutrients are better...?Watch the documentary "Fat Sick and Nearly Dead" if you can get your hands on it - proof that juicing is good for us.
Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead is not a "documentary." It's a propaganda film to sell juicers and books. It is full of misinformation, BS, and outright lies. The diet plan it promotes is very unhealthy. The film is not "proof" of anything except how incredibly gullible people are.0 -
I guss you can count me in as one of the gullible people. I juiced for about 5 days then I saw the documentary or commercial and I for one feel that it is a good way to re-boot my system.
I am finishing day two of my 10 day detox and feel ok. In my past I have been able to maintain a 2 day fast without anything and have adheared to the paleo diet for the last three years.I have lost and maintained a 35 pound weight loss.
There are many ways we gained our weight, I guess there are just as many ways to lose our weight.0 -
I guss you can count me in as one of the gullible people
Yes....yes you are.0 -
There are many ways we gained our weight, I guess there are just as many ways to lose our weight.
Indeed, there are.
Ways to gain weight: 1 - eat at a calorie surplus.
Ways to lose weight: 1 - eat at a calorie deficit.0 -
As Sara would say
Detox is not a medical term but a sales pitch.0 -
I don't really see the point in posting if I'm not going to even be open to opposing viewpoints, lol.
THIS. This right here makes you win MFP today! You won't believe how many people are closed off to advice and differing opinions!
Wow that is seriously refreshing, this post made my day! :happy: :happy: 0 -
I have a Breville juicer. I LOVE IT. And I love juicing
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