Mom wants to keep smoking. What should I do?

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So_Much_Fab
So_Much_Fab Posts: 1,146 Member
A little background. My mom (70) let her health go for the past 2 years, despite getting progressively worse. A fall at home landed her in the hospital & in a skilled nursing facility - she's been away for nearly 2 months and should be released back home soon. During the time she was sick (and for years before that) she's let her house go as well. There have been things that have needed repaired and those things are being fixed.

My mom has always smoked and because of this the house was terribly dirty and stinky. The walls are so bad that cleaning just won't do it - they'll need repainted. I've done TONS of cleaning over the past weeks in preparation for her return home. Finally I've cut through the worst of the stains and stink and I'm happy about the "healthier" home she'll be returning to.

Here's my dilemma. Even though she's not smoked while she's been away, she wants to return to it when she gets home. She promises to no longer smoke in the house and she also promises to cut way back from her former pack+/day habit. She doesn't drive and I do her grocery shopping - I've told her that while I can't tell her what she can do, I won't enable that habit anymore...I simply won't buy them and if she wants to smoke that badly that she needs to figure out another way to get them.

Here's the rub, as a smoker, I "get it". I understand the 'comfort' of it and I don't want to be the 'bad guy' saying NO. I also fully understand that despite her best intentions to smoke outside and cut back, that the habit will go right back to where it was before too long. I might add here that she now has severe RA and her mobility isn't the greatest anymore, so I also worry about her dropping a cigarette and starting a fire.

I fear that this is going to be a long term battle and frankly, I'm just not up for it.

Any advice from anyone that's been in a similar situation?

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  • just_Jennie1
    just_Jennie1 Posts: 1,233
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    Stick to your guns and don't buy them for her.

    Seriously. That's the only way that she will stop. If you buy them for her then you're enabling her.
  • PennyM140
    PennyM140 Posts: 423 Member
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    She is an adult. You can encourage her not to smoke. But treating her like a child and "making" her stop will just ruin your relationship with her.
  • DrMAvDPhD
    DrMAvDPhD Posts: 2,097 Member
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    She's an adult and can do as she pleases. Don't enable the behavior in ways you have control. Don't supply the cigs. If she's staying with you, don't let her smoke on your property (not just in your house). Other than that, you have no say.

    Think to yourself, is this argument really something you want to have with your 70ish mother with health problems?
  • sally_jeffswife
    sally_jeffswife Posts: 766 Member
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    Try to wean her to smoking E cigarettes instead of real ones. If its a nervous habit or something that has just became too much of a routine for her. The being able to smoke without it having the harmful stuff it in might be something she might like. They are a little more spendy than real cigarettes but much better for her health and those around her and they do have some that are rechargable kind so they would be more affordable in the long run if she likes those. Just tell her you are a bit concerned about her health cuz she means "alot" to you and you want her to try to smoke something healthier if she insists on smoking. The E cigarettes don't have the stuff that is dangerous to her in them like the real ones do. Then maybe once her body gets used to not having the nicotene in it then maybe she can wean herself off them completely easier.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
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    A little background. My mom (70) let her health go for the past 2 years, despite getting progressively worse. A fall at home landed her in the hospital & in a skilled nursing facility - she's been away for nearly 2 months and should be released back home soon. During the time she was sick (and for years before that) she's let her house go as well. There have been things that have needed repaired and those things are being fixed.

    My mom has always smoked and because of this the house was terribly dirty and stinky. The walls are so bad that cleaning just won't do it - they'll need repainted. I've done TONS of cleaning over the past weeks in preparation for her return home. Finally I've cut through the worst of the stains and stink and I'm happy about the "healthier" home she'll be returning to.

    Here's my dilemma. Even though she's not smoked while she's been away, she wants to return to it when she gets home. She promises to no longer smoke in the house and she also promises to cut way back from her former pack+/day habit. She doesn't drive and I do her grocery shopping - I've told her that while I can't tell her what she can do, I won't enable that habit anymore...I simply won't buy them and if she wants to smoke that badly that she needs to figure out another way to get them.

    Here's the rub, as a smoker, I "get it". I understand the 'comfort' of it and I don't want to be the 'bad guy' saying NO. I also fully understand that despite her best intentions to smoke outside and cut back, that the habit will go right back to where it was before too long. I might add here that she now has severe RA and her mobility isn't the greatest anymore, so I also worry about her dropping a cigarette and starting a fire.

    I fear that this is going to be a long term battle and frankly, I'm just not up for it.

    Any advice from anyone that's been in a similar situation?

    She's 70 and in poor health already. She's adult. You can't make her quit - only she can do that. Leave her alone.
  • ItsMeGee3
    ItsMeGee3 Posts: 13,255 Member
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    As a former smoker, you are fighting a loosing battle. Your mom will quit smoking when SHE is ready to quit.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
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    Let her live her life. Otherwise, you've just put her in jail and made yourself the prison guard.
  • So_Much_Fab
    So_Much_Fab Posts: 1,146 Member
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    Let her live her life. Otherwise, you've just put her in jail and made yourself the prison guard.

    I understand this, and it's not a position that I necessarily want to take. And for others that have made similar comments, I also understand that she'll quit when she wants to...much like weight loss.

    Rather than insisting she quit, would it be wrong of me to simply refuse to be the one getting the cigarettes for her and accepting her smoking should she find another way to get them (though this is highly unlikely)?
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
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    She is an adult. You can encourage her not to smoke. But treating her like a child and "making" her stop will just ruin your relationship with her.

    QFT

    She is an adult. I'm gonna guess you are too. Think about how you would feel if someone made choices for you?
  • ItsMeGee3
    ItsMeGee3 Posts: 13,255 Member
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    She is an adult. You can encourage her not to smoke. But treating her like a child and "making" her stop will just ruin your relationship with her.

    QFT

    She is an adult. I'm gonna guess you are too. Think about how you would feel if someone made choices for you?

    My dad died of oral cancer. If I could do anything over (during his illness), I'd buy him a carton of cigarettes and a 12 pack of beer.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
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    Let her live her life. Otherwise, you've just put her in jail and made yourself the prison guard.

    I understand this, and it's not a position that I necessarily want to take. And for others that have made similar comments, I also understand that she'll quit when she wants to...much like weight loss.

    Rather than insisting she quit, would it be wrong of me to simply refuse to be the one getting the cigarettes for her and accepting her smoking should she find another way to get them (though this is highly unlikely)?

    It really is your decision. As a respiratory therapist who has counseled many people on quitting smoking, I can tell you that she will resent you if you put yourself in the position of regulating her decision to smoke. She may not want to quit at all. At 70 and with poor health, smoking may well be one of the few pleasures she has left. As long as she's agreed not to smoke in the house and do more damage there, it's not really your place to treat her like a child and put her in a position where she'd have to beg someone to get cigarettes for her if she can't. End-of-life decisions are never easy, but you as her child and loving family member need to let her make her own decisions about her health and what makes her happy. We all die, and if she feels she's lived a good life and is willing to continue to smoke and damage her health further, that's up to her. You, knowing that if you refuse to buy her cigarettes, no one else will, are still forcing her to quit if you don't buy them.
  • So_Much_Fab
    So_Much_Fab Posts: 1,146 Member
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    She is an adult. You can encourage her not to smoke. But treating her like a child and "making" her stop will just ruin your relationship with her.

    QFT

    She is an adult. I'm gonna guess you are too. Think about how you would feel if someone made choices for you?

    I know, I get that. But an interesting spin is that I am the one facing the consequences (in part) because of it. I am the one that's been stuck with cleaning/fixing her house because of her 'health choices'...not her. I don't want to be the one that has to keep her house clean because she a) continues to smoke and b) is no longer physically able to keep up with the cleaning because of the smoking. Is that selfish? Perhaps.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
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    Let her live her life. Otherwise, you've just put her in jail and made yourself the prison guard.

    I understand this, and it's not a position that I necessarily want to take. And for others that have made similar comments, I also understand that she'll quit when she wants to...much like weight loss.

    Rather than insisting she quit, would it be wrong of me to simply refuse to be the one getting the cigarettes for her and accepting her smoking should she find another way to get them (though this is highly unlikely)?

    But you would be reducing her to begging for them from someone else. Why would you want to stress her like that at the end of her life?

    Of course, it is your decision.
  • moosegt35
    moosegt35 Posts: 1,296 Member
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    I honestly don't see how anyone can put one of those nasty disgusting things in their mouth and not puke much less "enjoy" it
  • So_Much_Fab
    So_Much_Fab Posts: 1,146 Member
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    I appreciate the comments thus far. I honestly thought that most would say to not buy her cigarettes and I'm genuinely surprised that the majority of you are basically saying (pardon the pun) that I need to butt out.

    Definitely food for thought.
  • asimmons221
    asimmons221 Posts: 294 Member
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    buy her an e-cig variable voltage-wattage mod, better than cigarettes and cuts the health risks.
  • RllyGudTweetr
    RllyGudTweetr Posts: 2,019 Member
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    You're not obligated to buy them. You're obligated to accept the consequences to the relationship should you make that choice.

    The only person who can make your mother stop smoking is your mother.
  • gsager
    gsager Posts: 977 Member
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    Leave her alone about the smoking.
  • tikafly
    tikafly Posts: 184 Member
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    I'm in a very similar situation with my mother. She made poor choices in her life, and she was unable to safely and adequately care for herself at the age of 55. She lived with my family for a couple of years before she went to live in an assisted living facility (where she has resided since). When living with me, just like you, I refused to enable her habit and buy cigarettes for her. I made this decision because not only did I not want her to smell up my house (she even smoked outside on the patio) or expose my children to second hand smoke, I just felt it wasn't safe because she kept burning herself and dropping cigarettes. I had her doctor prescribe a medication called Chantix to help her stop smoking, and IT WORKED very well. It was a gradual cessation on the medication, not cold turkey. It seemed as though there was little trying or wanting to quit, but the medication did most of the work. She was no longer a smoker when living in my house. She didn't necessarily like being a non-smoker, but her resentment toward me seemed minimal; however, she is not always mentally and emotionally coherent.

    She moved into her assisted living facility as a non-smoker. I requested to the director that she not be permitted to smoke. There are a lot of smokers who live there because they don't have much else to do other than sit around and smoke, and I understand that. My mom started stealing cigarettes. The director started allowing my mom to purchase them, and I understand that the stealing left the director with few other choices. My mother's health has significantly worsened since she started smoking again, and I am very concerned. I have resigned myself that I really can't stop her at this point unless I move her into another facility, which that is not financially possible.

    Would your mother be willing to try Chantix or similar to quit smoking? If not, you are going to have to accept this is the way she wants to live her life. I understand the moral dilemma of being the one who enables and purchases the cigarettes for her.

    It also would add to your credibility in helping her with this if you quit along with her.

    I can sense your deep concern for your mother, and I know you only mean well. I don't think this is such a black/white scenario. I think a compromise lies somewhere, and she has voiced that she is willing to compromise (although this could just be empty talk to just get you to shut up about it). But, as you know, smokers are a stubborn lot, and we can only do so much as children of older parents unless it is also our parent's will. I hope you find that compromise.