Cats and cat gifs ....

I LOOOOOOOOVE kitties!!!
(And dogs, birds, bunnies, etc., etc....)

I thought this was going to be a thread with cat gifs

never. lol. unless it gets derailed and people start posting those darned things.

Looks like it's happening!

Could never have pet pig, would feel too guilty while eating bacon and pork chops, and already borderline given my no eating intelligent species rule....

Could never have pet pig, would feel too guilty while eating bacon and pork chops, and already borderline given my no eating intelligent species rule....

"The nation’s largest meat producer [Tyson] says it has terminated its contract with an Oklahoma farm after NBC News showed the company undercover video of workers on the farm kicking, hitting and throwing pigs and slamming piglets into the ground."

"Another common cause of death [of pigs] is ulcers caused by the stress of living in the barns. The pigs' stomachs had large, bloody holes where the pigs had bled to death."

"The manager often killed sick pigs by beating them in the head with a metal rod and a hammer. The video shows the pigs crying out as the rod comes down again and again on their heads and backs. After beating one pig to death, the manager laughed and told our investigator that he shouldn't let anyone see him doing that. On another day, the manager took a pig by his hind legs, swung him into the air and slammed his head on the hard floor."

Just remember those statements when you joke about pigs and bacon. It would be far more civil of you to raise a pig as a pet and then humanely kill and process it as opposed to buying bacon at that store. Unless you're buying bacon at Whole Foods where producers must meet strict standards, your bacon likely comes from a tortured animal.

I feel like I should post here.

Grumpy cat is awesome! I love kitties.

maybe you're hungry ...... eat something :drinker:

Could never have pet pig, would feel too guilty while eating bacon and pork chops, and already borderline given my no eating intelligent species rule....

"The nation’s largest meat producer [Tyson] says it has terminated its contract with an Oklahoma farm after NBC News showed the company undercover video of workers on the farm kicking, hitting and throwing pigs and slamming piglets into the ground."

"Another common cause of death [of pigs] is ulcers caused by the stress of living in the barns. The pigs' stomachs had large, bloody holes where the pigs had bled to death."

"The manager often killed sick pigs by beating them in the head with a metal rod and a hammer. The video shows the pigs crying out as the rod comes down again and again on their heads and backs. After beating one pig to death, the manager laughed and told our investigator that he shouldn't let anyone see him doing that. On another day, the manager took a pig by his hind legs, swung him into the air and slammed his head on the hard floor."

Just remember those statements when you joke about pigs and bacon. It would be far more civil of you to raise a pig as a pet and then humanely kill and process it as opposed to buying bacon at that store. Unless you're buying bacon at Whole Foods where producers must meet strict standards, your bacon likely comes from a tortured animal.

Trust me, I'm well aware all of this, and yes, some part of me feels bad eating pork, just not bad enough to stop, and I do try to humanely source when I can...but honestly, if we can't laugh at our failings then what's the point? I make what changes I can and that I feel are important and don't beat myself up over the stuff that I have very little control over, i.e. what some subhuman does to animals because he can.

Could never have pet pig, would feel too guilty while eating bacon and pork chops, and already borderline given my no eating intelligent species rule....

"The nation’s largest meat producer [Tyson] says it has terminated its contract with an Oklahoma farm after NBC News showed the company undercover video of workers on the farm kicking, hitting and throwing pigs and slamming piglets into the ground."

"Another common cause of death [of pigs] is ulcers caused by the stress of living in the barns. The pigs' stomachs had large, bloody holes where the pigs had bled to death."

"The manager often killed sick pigs by beating them in the head with a metal rod and a hammer. The video shows the pigs crying out as the rod comes down again and again on their heads and backs. After beating one pig to death, the manager laughed and told our investigator that he shouldn't let anyone see him doing that. On another day, the manager took a pig by his hind legs, swung him into the air and slammed his head on the hard floor."

Just remember those statements when you joke about pigs and bacon. It would be far more civil of you to raise a pig as a pet and then humanely kill and process it as opposed to buying bacon at that store. Unless you're buying bacon at Whole Foods where producers must meet strict standards, your bacon likely comes from a tortured animal.

Trust me, I'm well aware all of this, and yes, some part of me feels bad eating pork, just not bad enough to stop, and I do try to humanely source when I can...but honestly, if we can't laugh at our failings then what's the point? I make what changes I can and that I feel are important and don't beat myself up over the stuff that I have very little control over, i.e. what some subhuman does to animals because he can.

I support your attempts at humanely sourcing, but you do have to see the irony in your statements:

-"part of me feels bad eating pork, just not bad enough to stop"
->you care, but not that much


-"I do try to humanely source when I can...but honestly, if we can't laugh at our failings then what's the point?"
-> if you can't humanely source it, don't eat it. It's not that difficult. I am, however, pleased that you can laugh at yourself for not feeling "bad enough to stop"

"i.e. what some subhuman does to animals because he can"
-> which is paid to occur by people who don't feel "bad enough to stop" eating inhumanely produced food

I'm not one to preach, but your responses are ridiculous.

And your responses are why people who might be sympathetic to your cause if you approached them from a place of moderation, instead ridicule and shun your cause because of perceived extremism.