Hi my name is Sugar….

I'll just put this here...

Not that it'll change anyone's mind. This topic is almost like religion and politics - people BELIEVE one way or the other and are going to stick to their guns and think the other side is stupid/naive until their dying breath Not a lot of open minds here, but this is a good read anyway and has links to lots of interesting studies and funny videos.

http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2013/06/17/everything-you-need-to-know-about-sugar/

I'll just put this here...

Not that it'll change anyone's mind. This topic is almost like religion and politics - people BELIEVE one way or the other and are going to stick to their guns and think the other side is stupid/naive until their dying breath Not a lot of open minds here, but this is a good read anyway and has links to lots of interesting studies and funny videos.

http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2013/06/17/everything-you-need-to-know-about-sugar/

from the article:

"It’s why your concentration goes to Hell when you eat a chocolate chip cookie and there is an additional plate of them in front of you. Suddenly it’s the only thing you can think about until you’ve eaten them all! Or you eat a Peanut M&M, and suddenly you’ve polished off a family-sized bag."

This is a total bunch of BS. You can put a plate of cookies in front of me or a bag of M&M's and my concentration is fine and I just keep on walking by....

Not trying to be a jerk...but maybe you're being a bit of a jerk...maybe...I mean, it's possible.

Personally, I can have a drink of wine or a shot of jack daniels and go about my business. I can play the penny slots at the casino and walk away when my dollar is gone. I've even, in my younger days, done some "addictive" drugs and not developed a problem AND smoked cigarettes for a few years, put them down and walked away. I have also eaten one or two cookies and gone about my business. I'm not addicted to anything. However, just because I haven't experienced alcohol/gambling/drug/cigarette/sugar addiction, just because I haven't felt that uncontrollable impulse to do it more, to have it ALL, despite the negative impact it has on my body/relationships, I'm not going to say it doesn't exist for other people.

If someone says, "Hi, I'm so and so, and I'm an alcoholic", it might be kind of a **** move to say (and I quote from your post, just replacing "plate of cookies" and "bag of M&M's" with alcohol,

ndj1979

This is a total bunch of BS. You can put a six pack of miller lite in front of me or a shot of vodka and my concentration is fine and I just keep on walking by...

I'm just saying - science is a moving target. They are discovering new things every day. They are proving past "proven facts" as actually incorrect. At one point in time, scientists thought that asbestos would make really great potholders. We don't know everything there is to know about the brain, there are ENTIRE unexplored unknown regions inside our own bodies. Nobody can know anything with 100% certainty and addiction is still being studied. I dont experience sugar addiction personally, or gambling/sex/alcohol/etc. addictions, but, being of a scientific mind, I'm not going to say it's 100% impossible either.

I might be totally wrong though...carry on.

Tip of the day: If you let your fruits rot a little bit you can mush them up and use them for brown fruit sugar instead of regular. This way you'll get all the brown sugar deliciousness you could possibly want without any real sugar added!

... you're welcome

I thought fructose was the devil?

Fructose is sugar, in fact he's the ringleader of the sugar gang, which includes sucrose, lactose and maltose. Lactose can be a mean mo-fo if he doesn't like you. But if he does then he's sweet.

I'll just put this here...

Not that it'll change anyone's mind. This topic is almost like religion and politics - people BELIEVE one way or the other and are going to stick to their guns and think the other side is stupid/naive until their dying breath Not a lot of open minds here, but this is a good read anyway and has links to lots of interesting studies and funny videos.

http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2013/06/17/everything-you-need-to-know-about-sugar/

from the article:

"It’s why your concentration goes to Hell when you eat a chocolate chip cookie and there is an additional plate of them in front of you. Suddenly it’s the only thing you can think about until you’ve eaten them all! Or you eat a Peanut M&M, and suddenly you’ve polished off a family-sized bag."

This is a total bunch of BS. You can put a plate of cookies in front of me or a bag of M&M's and my concentration is fine and I just keep on walking by....

Not trying to be a jerk...but maybe you're being a bit of a jerk...maybe...I mean, it's possible.

Personally, I can have a drink of wine or a shot of jack daniels and go about my business. I can play the penny slots at the casino and walk away when my dollar is gone. I've even, in my younger days, done some "addictive" drugs and not developed a problem AND smoked cigarettes for a few years, put them down and walked away. I have also eaten one or two cookies and gone about my business. I'm not addicted to anything. However, just because I haven't experienced alcohol/gambling/drug/cigarette/sugar addiction, just because I haven't felt that uncontrollable impulse to do it more, to have it ALL, despite the negative impact it has on my body/relationships, I'm not going to say it doesn't exist for other people.

If someone says, "Hi, I'm so and so, and I'm an alcoholic", it might be kind of a **** move to say (and I quote from your post, just replacing "plate of cookies" and "bag of M&M's" with alcohol,

ndj1979

This is a total bunch of BS. You can put a six pack of miller lite in front of me or a shot of vodka and my concentration is fine and I just keep on walking by...

I'm just saying - science is a moving target. They are discovering new things every day. They are proving past "proven facts" as actually incorrect. At one point in time, scientists thought that asbestos would make really great potholders. We don't know everything there is to know about the brain, there are ENTIRE unexplored unknown regions inside our own bodies. Nobody can know anything with 100% certainty and addiction is still being studied. I dont experience sugar addiction personally, or gambling/sex/alcohol/etc. addictions, but, being of a scientific mind, I'm not going to say it's 100% impossible either.

I might be totally wrong though...carry on.

yea, well you totally missed the point of my original post...so let me re-phrase it. Why is fruit sugar deemed "good" and added sugar deemed "bad" when, at the end of the day they are all sugar...

You're right, I totally missed your point. I thought you were poking fun at people that claim to suffer from addiction to a substance, I did not realize you had an actual legitimate question/point. Mea culpa.

I don't know the answer, but it is being studied, so an answer may be just around the corner. It's interesting to note that there are lots of other substances that in their whole form, are entirely safe, but when meddled with by a laboratory, become harmful, even poisonous. The natural plant form either provides the substance in smaller doses that the body can handle, or the plants actually provide other substances that counter-act, aid in the breakdown, or otherwise assist the body to use everything in a safe manner. Yet, when you involve a laboratory and scrape everything away except for the one particular chemical you're interested in, you get a very potent form that isn't handled as well and is also easier to over consume. Take aspirin for example. In its natural plant form, you can munch away and the headache goes away with little/no ill side effects. When they originally extracted just the one chemical that actually remedies the headache, people got such awful stomach pain and heartburn that they chose the headache over the side-effects. They've since added additional chemicals to counter-act or lessen that affect, but still an interesting change. I dont know if the same or similar thing happens when you take natural occurring sugar and meddle with it in a lab to create a more potent form, or if some other chemical response happens somewhere else completely, but it is interesting that you don't hear about people getting fat or going crazy over a bowl of fruit, but that some people seem completely pre-occupied/obsessed with so called "junk" food to the point of ruining their health and happiness. It's interesting.

I'll just put this here...

Not that it'll change anyone's mind. This topic is almost like religion and politics - people BELIEVE one way or the other and are going to stick to their guns and think the other side is stupid/naive until their dying breath Not a lot of open minds here, but this is a good read anyway and has links to lots of interesting studies and funny videos.

http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2013/06/17/everything-you-need-to-know-about-sugar/

from the article:

"It’s why your concentration goes to Hell when you eat a chocolate chip cookie and there is an additional plate of them in front of you. Suddenly it’s the only thing you can think about until you’ve eaten them all! Or you eat a Peanut M&M, and suddenly you’ve polished off a family-sized bag."

This is a total bunch of BS. You can put a plate of cookies in front of me or a bag of M&M's and my concentration is fine and I just keep on walking by....

Sounds like you are a radish man?

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/04/the-chocolate-and-radish-experiment-that-birthed-the-modern-conception-of-willpower/255544/

That...that's just evil. Where were his ethical scruples?? Poor test subjects

Good read, thanks for sharing.

I thought this thread was going to be about a stripper named Sugar... dissapointed