Paleo Newbie!
maroongiraffe
Posts: 2 Member
Hey there,
My husband and I have started to eat completely paleo this year. Kicking off with a whole 30 this month. But sometimes it really feels like we are alone in this.
Just looking for people to chat to about what they are eating and swapping recipes, tips and motivation.
Anyway,
Hope to hear from some of you!
My husband and I have started to eat completely paleo this year. Kicking off with a whole 30 this month. But sometimes it really feels like we are alone in this.
Just looking for people to chat to about what they are eating and swapping recipes, tips and motivation.
Anyway,
Hope to hear from some of you!
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Do you want motivation? Or do you want good advice?
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1178007-vegetarians-vs-paleo0 -
lol above reply. "Oh you're paleo, here's a pro vegan link". Derp.
Anyways. I'm paleo too, add me.
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http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets
Ranked last out of 32 diets.
Not trying to make anyone feel bad or embarrass anybody, but this research and commentary is very interesting.
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets?page=40 -
My Husband and I started out being Paleo January 1st, I LOVE IT!! I feel amazing. Add me!0
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I've been Paleo/Primal for several months now, and I absolutely love it. So many people on this forum will try to discourage you, but ignore them, because it is a healthy and awesome lifestyle. You have to do what works for you, no matter how many people who are experts in Web MD try to tell you they know what is best for you! Feel free to add me, I'm happy to answer any questions you might have, or just offer support if you need it. Best of luck in your journey!!!!0
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http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets
Ranked last out of 32 diets.
Not trying to make anyone feel bad or embarrass anybody, but this research and commentary is very interesting.
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets?page=4
And in response to this... it's not a diet, it's a lifestyle. You don't do Paleo for 6 months to lose weight and then quit, you do it for life because it's a great way to live.0 -
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets
Ranked last out of 32 diets.
Not trying to make anyone feel bad or embarrass anybody, but this research and commentary is very interesting.
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets?page=4
And in response to this... it's not a diet, it's a lifestyle. You don't do Paleo for 6 months to lose weight and then quit, you do it for life because it's a great way to live.
I am not familiar with the lifestyle element of paleo. You don't behave as paleolithic man, you try to emulate the diet of a paleolithic man.
General consensus of what constitutes a paleo diet:
Whole foods and minimal processing? Great!
Less simple sugars? Great!
Lean meats such as fish and fowl? Great!
Fewer preservatives? Great!
But through animal husbandry and agriculture we have been selectively breeding our foodstuffs for thousands of years. It is literally impossible & pointless to emulate the diet of paleolithic man. That's to say the least of his lifestyle: brutal, terrifying, pain-filled, and short. Nobody wants a paleolithic lifestyle.
As a species, we've been making bread for 30,000 years. 30,000 years of civilization, we have been eating bread. It is absurd to attribute a 60-year-old public health problem to a 30,000 year old dietary practice and revert to the fantasy emulation of a 100,000 year-old diet to solve it.
Last week at the grocery store, I purchased fresh, seedless oranges in the dead of winter, made possible by the propagation of a mutated Brazilian tree, insecticides, fungicides, selective-breeding, irradiation, and high-speed transportation.
Neo-Luddism is very trendy right now but just as silly as the original movement.0 -
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets
Ranked last out of 32 diets.
Not trying to make anyone feel bad or embarrass anybody, but this research and commentary is very interesting.
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets?page=4
And in response to this... it's not a diet, it's a lifestyle. You don't do Paleo for 6 months to lose weight and then quit, you do it for life because it's a great way to live.
I am not familiar with the lifestyle element of paleo. You don't behave as paleolithic man, you try to emulate the diet of a paleolithic man.
General consensus of what constitutes a paleo diet:
Whole foods and minimal processing? Great!
Less simple sugars? Great!
Lean meats such as fish and fowl? Great!
Fewer preservatives? Great!
But through animal husbandry and agriculture we have been selectively breeding our foodstuffs for thousands of years. It is literally impossible & pointless to emulate the diet of paleolithic man. That's to say the least of his lifestyle: brutal, terrifying, pain-filled, and short. Nobody wants a paleolithic lifestyle.
As a species, we've been making bread for 30,000 years. 30,000 years of civilization, we have been eating bread. It is absurd to attribute a 60-year-old public health problem to a 30,000 year old dietary practice and revert to the fantasy emulation of a 100,000 year-old diet to solve it.
Last week at the grocery store, I purchased fresh, seedless oranges in the dead of winter, made possible by the propagation of a mutated Brazilian tree, insecticides, fungicides, selective-breeding, irradiation, and high-speed transportation.
Neo-Luddism is very trendy right now but just as silly as the original movement.
In for food stuffing and selective breeding!
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They didn't have computers or electricity or houses back then either, and you're using all of the above and more, so clearly "paleo" is not your lifestyle.http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets
Ranked last out of 32 diets.
Not trying to make anyone feel bad or embarrass anybody, but this research and commentary is very interesting.
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets?page=4
And in response to this... it's not a diet, it's a lifestyle. You don't do Paleo for 6 months to lose weight and then quit, you do it for life because it's a great way to live.0 -
Here we go again. OP: there are several paleo groups if you'd like to discuss your journey with likeminded folks. The main boards are kinda funny with their: you have to want to eat all foods approach sometimes.
I'm not paleo/primal, but get why some folks would choose it over the SAD.0 -
Probably anything is better than the SAD, but I did Paleo for six months and my cholesterol hit the roof, plus I could not lose weight no matter how much I exercised. This is just my experience. Went back to vegan (like 95-98%) and cholesterol dropped 53 points, plus I lost about 10 pounds without trying. Good luck no matter which road you choose! :drinker:0
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Here we go again. OP: there are several paleo groups if you'd like to discuss your journey with likeminded folks. The main boards are kinda funny with their: you have to want to eat all foods approach sometimes.
I'm not paleo/primal, but get why some folks would choose it over the SAD.
Certainly you're not trying to characterize my statement that way, are you?0 -
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets
Ranked last out of 32 diets.
Not trying to make anyone feel bad or embarrass anybody, but this research and commentary is very interesting.
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets?page=4
And in response to this... it's not a diet, it's a lifestyle. You don't do Paleo for 6 months to lose weight and then quit, you do it for life because it's a great way to live.
I am not familiar with the lifestyle element of paleo. You don't behave as paleolithic man, you try to emulate the diet of a paleolithic man.
General consensus of what constitutes a paleo diet:
Whole foods and minimal processing? Great!
Less simple sugars? Great!
Lean meats such as fish and fowl? Great!
Fewer preservatives? Great!
But through animal husbandry and agriculture we have been selectively breeding our foodstuffs for thousands of years. It is literally impossible & pointless to emulate the diet of paleolithic man. That's to say the least of his lifestyle: brutal, terrifying, pain-filled, and short. Nobody wants a paleolithic lifestyle.
As a species, we've been making bread for 30,000 years. 30,000 years of civilization, we have been eating bread. It is absurd to attribute a 60-year-old public health problem to a 30,000 year old dietary practice and revert to the fantasy emulation of a 100,000 year-old diet to solve it.
Last week at the grocery store, I purchased fresh, seedless oranges in the dead of winter, made possible by the propagation of a mutated Brazilian tree, insecticides, fungicides, selective-breeding, irradiation, and high-speed transportation.
Neo-Luddism is very trendy right now but just as silly as the original movement.
Quoting, because it made me happy.0 -
To be fair, the original Luddism movement was not a fear of technology. Luddites didn't destroy machines because they were afraid of technology. They were artisans who made things, and they destroyed the machines because those machines essentially were able to replace them and put them out of work. It wasn't a fear of technology, it was a labor dispute that turned into violent protest.http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets
Ranked last out of 32 diets.
Not trying to make anyone feel bad or embarrass anybody, but this research and commentary is very interesting.
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets?page=4
And in response to this... it's not a diet, it's a lifestyle. You don't do Paleo for 6 months to lose weight and then quit, you do it for life because it's a great way to live.
I am not familiar with the lifestyle element of paleo. You don't behave as paleolithic man, you try to emulate the diet of a paleolithic man.
General consensus of what constitutes a paleo diet:
Whole foods and minimal processing? Great!
Less simple sugars? Great!
Lean meats such as fish and fowl? Great!
Fewer preservatives? Great!
But through animal husbandry and agriculture we have been selectively breeding our foodstuffs for thousands of years. It is literally impossible & pointless to emulate the diet of paleolithic man. That's to say the least of his lifestyle: brutal, terrifying, pain-filled, and short. Nobody wants a paleolithic lifestyle.
As a species, we've been making bread for 30,000 years. 30,000 years of civilization, we have been eating bread. It is absurd to attribute a 60-year-old public health problem to a 30,000 year old dietary practice and revert to the fantasy emulation of a 100,000 year-old diet to solve it.
Last week at the grocery store, I purchased fresh, seedless oranges in the dead of winter, made possible by the propagation of a mutated Brazilian tree, insecticides, fungicides, selective-breeding, irradiation, and high-speed transportation.
Neo-Luddism is very trendy right now but just as silly as the original movement.0 -
To be fair, the original Luddism movement was not a fear of technology. Luddites didn't destroy machines because they were afraid of technology. They were artisans who made things, and they destroyed the machines because those machines essentially were able to replace them and put them out of work. It wasn't a fear of technology, it was a labor dispute that turned into violent protest.Neo-Luddism is very trendy right now but just as silly as the original movement.
History =/= lexicography.
Edited to add: and I don't expect that you're arguing that the Luddite movement was not silly. Economics has pretty conclusively proven that it was.0 -
I thought anyone doing something like Paleo ought to know about the L-carnatine study in Nature. It shows that there is a substance in red meat that alters the product of your gut bacteria and causes it to produce a toxic substance. It is not extremely toxic but over time it causes colon cancer and heart disease, L-Carnatine is in ALL red meat. The only way to avoid it is to avoid red meat. I think if the people who were considering Paleo all know about this, they might think twice.0
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I thought anyone doing something like Paleo ought to know about the L-carnatine study in Nature. It shows that there is a substance in red meat that alters the product of your gut bacteria and causes it to produce a toxic substance. It is not extremely toxic but over time it causes colon cancer and heart disease, L-Carnatine is in ALL red meat. The only way to avoid it is to avoid red meat. I think if the people who were considering Paleo all know about this, they might think twice.
Quick! Somebody get the last few thousand generations of humanity on the phone and tell them they might die from toxins created by eating red meat! Someone! Hurry, or none of us will ever be born!
ETA: And for those who would say that this rambling insanity is a terrible misrepresentation of the post to which it refers, I call it fighting fire with fire. Equally crazy, but lots of fun. *nods* true story0 -
Instead of a a halfazz dumb response why not try reading the study.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/new-study-links-l-carnitine-in-red-meat-to-heart-disease-201304176083
The link is to a Harvard journal which references a study in Nature which is a top scientific journal.0 -
I thought anyone doing something like Paleo ought to know about the L-carnatine study in Nature. It shows that there is a substance in red meat that alters the product of your gut bacteria and causes it to produce a toxic substance. It is not extremely toxic but over time it causes colon cancer and heart disease, L-Carnatine is in ALL red meat. The only way to avoid it is to avoid red meat. I think if the people who were considering Paleo all know about this, they might think twice.
Quick! Somebody get the last few thousand generations of humanity on the phone and tell them they might die from toxins created by eating red meat! Someone! Hurry, or none of us will ever be born!
ETA: And for those who would say that this rambling insanity is a terrible misrepresentation of the post to which it refers, I call it fighting fire with fire. Equally crazy, but lots of fun. *nods* true story
I hate this sort of whiny sarcasm. The final paragraph is barely understandable.0 -
Instead of a a halfazz dumb response why not try reading the study.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/new-study-links-l-carnitine-in-red-meat-to-heart-disease-201304176083
The link is to a Harvard journal which references a study in Nature which is a top scientific journal.
His halfazz dumb response is supported by the paper. Have you read it???????“The studies of red meat and heart disease in humans are conflicting,” says Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian, associate professor of medicine at Harvard-affiliated Brigham and Women’s Hospital. “This new research was well-done and compelling, but it’s too early to decide that this molecule, TMAO, causes atherosclerosis in humans or that this is responsible for some of the associations of meat intake and risk.
If you look at people who eat unprocessed red meat, there is a relatively weak association with heart disease,” Dr. Mozaffarian says. “It’s not protective—and healthier dietary choices exist—but major harms are also not seen.”
That kind of sarcasm is the only response that any of this dietary silliness deserves.0 -
Did you read the part about the "new research is well done and COMPELLING." Speculation that more studies are needed are both correct and normal with a new breakthrough piece of research like this.0
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I thought anyone doing something like Paleo ought to know about the L-carnatine study in Nature. It shows that there is a substance in red meat that alters the product of your gut bacteria and causes it to produce a toxic substance. It is not extremely toxic but over time it causes colon cancer and heart disease, L-Carnatine is in ALL red meat. The only way to avoid it is to avoid red meat. I think if the people who were considering Paleo all know about this, they might think twice.
Quick! Somebody get the last few thousand generations of humanity on the phone and tell them they might die from toxins created by eating red meat! Someone! Hurry, or none of us will ever be born!
ETA: And for those who would say that this rambling insanity is a terrible misrepresentation of the post to which it refers, I call it fighting fire with fire. Equally crazy, but lots of fun. *nods* true story
I hate this sort of whiny sarcasm. The final paragraph is barely understandable.
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http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets
Ranked last out of 32 diets.
Not trying to make anyone feel bad or embarrass anybody, but this research and commentary is very interesting.
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets?page=4
Just a couple of responses to the USNews article if anyone is interested.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-does-the-paleo-diet-continue-to-receive-low-points-from-established-authorities/#axzz2qmO5X3uX
http://robbwolf.com/2014/01/10/news-ranks-paleo-diet-2014-deja-vu-again/0 -
It worked for me! Nearly 35 pounds lost on a mostly paleo diet. Add me if you wish (anyone).0
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Did you read the part about the "new research is well done and COMPELLING." Speculation that more studies are needed are both correct and normal with a new breakthrough piece of research like this.
Yes, I read that part.
I assumed that because you posted the link and referred to the study, you could correctly cogitate the information. Since that is not the case, I am going to step away. I'm not going to waste my time trying to help you understand your own reference.0 -
Did you read the part about the "new research is well done and COMPELLING." Speculation that more studies are needed are both correct and normal with a new breakthrough piece of research like this.
Yes, I read that part.
I assumed that because you posted the link and referred to the study, you could correctly cogitate the information. Since that is not the case, I am going to step away. I'm not going to waste my time trying to help you understand your own reference. 0 -
These people are true Paleo believers, so of course they are not going to like the study. According to their methodology USNWR simply collected responses from people who said they had been on the diet. The vast majority who have tried Paleo and responded to the survey stated that the diet was ineffective, and they didn't like it and didn't stay on it. Of course Paleo hasn't been around long enough to see how many of the long term followers develop chronic diseases early in life as would be predicted by the L-Carnatine study I referred to above.
Honestly, I don't believe they will have enough long term survivors of that diet to actually do a long term study.0 -
Did you read the part about the "new research is well done and COMPELLING." Speculation that more studies are needed are both correct and normal with a new breakthrough piece of research like this.
Yes, I read that part.
I assumed that because you posted the link and referred to the study, you could correctly cogitate the information. Since that is not the case, I am going to step away. I'm not going to waste my time trying to help you understand your own reference.
Okay, I guess you don't read much scientific literature.0 -
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets
Ranked last out of 32 diets.
Not trying to make anyone feel bad or embarrass anybody, but this research and commentary is very interesting.
http://health.usnews.com/best-diet/best-overall-diets?page=4
Just a couple of responses to the USNews article if anyone is interested.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-does-the-paleo-diet-continue-to-receive-low-points-from-established-authorities/#axzz2qmO5X3uX
http://robbwolf.com/2014/01/10/news-ranks-paleo-diet-2014-deja-vu-again/
Mark's Daily Apple and Robb Wolf.
Sound legit.
I'll just pop over to . . . oh
"Mark's Daily Apple: Primal Living In The Modern World"
There's an official store. He sells books. He gives seminars . . . okay.
Then nevermind, I'll just check out the second link, I'm sure . . . oh
"Robb Wolf: Revolutionary Solutions To Modern Life"
Oh. He has a store too, selling Paleo e-books. Okay.
. . . right.0
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