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A role for inflammation has become well established over the past decade or more in theories describing the atherosclerotic disease process.4,5 From a pathological viewpoint, all stages, ie, initiation, growth, and complication of the atherosclerotic plaque,6,7 might be considered to be an inflammatory response to injury. The major injurious factors that promote atherogenesis—cigarette smoking, hypertension, atherogenic lipoproteins, and hyperglycemia—are well established
Johnny, I read the article and found this^^. Basically, what I gathered from it, is that inflammation is a major cause of atherosclerosis, and their risk of causing a heart attack. I have not found any actual data that says that the inflammation is caused by "not eating clean". It just says that causes of inflammation are due to cholesterol levels, smoking, and the typically well known causes. However, think of all the stuff they put in our food that we don't even know about. How long have they been putting "pink slime" in our food, and we're just now recently finding out about it. I know not all documentaries are factual either, but I've watched a few on how animals that we eat are raised. It's not natural. Their raised with NO sunlight, and fed diets of corn. Naturally, those animals are supposed to be eating grass. All of the preservatives that are put in all of those packaged and canned foods can't be good for us.
We've always known about pink slime. No one ever cared about it. It's just meat. There's nothing wrong with pink slime.
I'd like to see data indicating what types of foods or specific ingredients or chemicals contribute to cardiovascular inflammation.0 -
So how do researchers measure and quantify inflammation levels? I have some reading to do.
If I'm not mistaken, and I may be here, C-reactive protein is the blood test they check to see if you have high levels of inflammation.0 -
A role for inflammation has become well established over the past decade or more in theories describing the atherosclerotic disease process.4,5 From a pathological viewpoint, all stages, ie, initiation, growth, and complication of the atherosclerotic plaque,6,7 might be considered to be an inflammatory response to injury. The major injurious factors that promote atherogenesis—cigarette smoking, hypertension, atherogenic lipoproteins, and hyperglycemia—are well established
Johnny, I read the article and found this^^. Basically, what I gathered from it, is that inflammation is a major cause of atherosclerosis, and their risk of causing a heart attack. I have not found any actual data that says that the inflammation is caused by "not eating clean". It just says that causes of inflammation are due to cholesterol levels, smoking, and the typically well known causes. However, think of all the stuff they put in our food that we don't even know about. How long have they been putting "pink slime" in our food, and we're just now recently finding out about it. I know not all documentaries are factual either, but I've watched a few on how animals that we eat are raised. It's not natural. Their raised with NO sunlight, and fed diets of corn. Naturally, those animals are supposed to be eating grass. All of the preservatives that are put in all of those packaged and canned foods can't be good for us.
We've always known about pink slime. No one ever cared about it. It's just meat. There's nothing wrong with pink slime.
I'd like to see data indicating what types of foods or specific ingredients or chemicals contribute to cardiovascular inflammation.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23881582
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21226274
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S00219150080028150 -
A role for inflammation has become well established over the past decade or more in theories describing the atherosclerotic disease process.4,5 From a pathological viewpoint, all stages, ie, initiation, growth, and complication of the atherosclerotic plaque,6,7 might be considered to be an inflammatory response to injury. The major injurious factors that promote atherogenesis—cigarette smoking, hypertension, atherogenic lipoproteins, and hyperglycemia—are well established
Johnny, I read the article and found this^^. Basically, what I gathered from it, is that inflammation is a major cause of atherosclerosis, and their risk of causing a heart attack. I have not found any actual data that says that the inflammation is caused by "not eating clean". It just says that causes of inflammation are due to cholesterol levels, smoking, and the typically well known causes. However, think of all the stuff they put in our food that we don't even know about. How long have they been putting "pink slime" in our food, and we're just now recently finding out about it. I know not all documentaries are factual either, but I've watched a few on how animals that we eat are raised. It's not natural. Their raised with NO sunlight, and fed diets of corn. Naturally, those animals are supposed to be eating grass. All of the preservatives that are put in all of those packaged and canned foods can't be good for us.
We've always known about pink slime. No one ever cared about it. It's just meat. There's nothing wrong with pink slime.
I'd like to see data indicating what types of foods or specific ingredients or chemicals contribute to cardiovascular inflammation.
Sorry, can't help you. I for one think pink slime is gross, and I don't think cleaning our food with ammonia can be a good thing, but who am I?0 -
That's my impression to N, but if someone is saying the data is there to indicate certain dietary choices lead to chronic inflammation I'm rather interested. Of Amy Sue h data exists I want to see it.0
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A role for inflammation has become well established over the past decade or more in theories describing the atherosclerotic disease process.4,5 From a pathological viewpoint, all stages, ie, initiation, growth, and complication of the atherosclerotic plaque,6,7 might be considered to be an inflammatory response to injury. The major injurious factors that promote atherogenesis—cigarette smoking, hypertension, atherogenic lipoproteins, and hyperglycemia—are well established
Johnny, I read the article and found this^^. Basically, what I gathered from it, is that inflammation is a major cause of atherosclerosis, and their risk of causing a heart attack. I have not found any actual data that says that the inflammation is caused by "not eating clean". It just says that causes of inflammation are due to cholesterol levels, smoking, and the typically well known causes. However, think of all the stuff they put in our food that we don't even know about. How long have they been putting "pink slime" in our food, and we're just now recently finding out about it. I know not all documentaries are factual either, but I've watched a few on how animals that we eat are raised. It's not natural. Their raised with NO sunlight, and fed diets of corn. Naturally, those animals are supposed to be eating grass. All of the preservatives that are put in all of those packaged and canned foods can't be good for us.
We've always known about pink slime. No one ever cared about it. It's just meat. There's nothing wrong with pink slime.
I'd like to see data indicating what types of foods or specific ingredients or chemicals contribute to cardiovascular inflammation.
Sorry, can't help you. I for one think pink slime is gross, and I don't think cleaning our food with ammonia can be a good thing, but who am I?
Chances are a lot of things you eat are cleaned with or contain ammonia. It's a common agent, and many foods contain it naturally.0 -
If this is the case, how does one explain cases like mine, where my cholesterol levels have improved significantly over time despite high quantities of sugar intake?
Would have been nice if he gave references for some of these claims.
According to this, sugar lowers good cholesterol, which isn't a good thing.
http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20100420/high-sugar-diet-linked-lower-good-cholesterol0 -
If this is the case, how does one explain cases like mine, where my cholesterol levels have improved significantly over time despite high quantities of sugar intake?
Would have been nice if he gave references for some of these claims.
According to this, sugar lowers good cholesterol, which isn't a good thing.
http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20100420/high-sugar-diet-linked-lower-good-cholesterol0 -
A role for inflammation has become well established over the past decade or more in theories describing the atherosclerotic disease process.4,5 From a pathological viewpoint, all stages, ie, initiation, growth, and complication of the atherosclerotic plaque,6,7 might be considered to be an inflammatory response to injury. The major injurious factors that promote atherogenesis—cigarette smoking, hypertension, atherogenic lipoproteins, and hyperglycemia—are well established
Johnny, I read the article and found this^^. Basically, what I gathered from it, is that inflammation is a major cause of atherosclerosis, and their risk of causing a heart attack. I have not found any actual data that says that the inflammation is caused by "not eating clean". It just says that causes of inflammation are due to cholesterol levels, smoking, and the typically well known causes. However, think of all the stuff they put in our food that we don't even know about. How long have they been putting "pink slime" in our food, and we're just now recently finding out about it. I know not all documentaries are factual either, but I've watched a few on how animals that we eat are raised. It's not natural. Their raised with NO sunlight, and fed diets of corn. Naturally, those animals are supposed to be eating grass. All of the preservatives that are put in all of those packaged and canned foods can't be good for us.
We've always known about pink slime. No one ever cared about it. It's just meat. There's nothing wrong with pink slime.
I'd like to see data indicating what types of foods or specific ingredients or chemicals contribute to cardiovascular inflammation.
Sorry, can't help you. I for one think pink slime is gross, and I don't think cleaning our food with ammonia can be a good thing, but who am I?
Chances are a lot of things you eat are cleaned with or contain ammonia. It's a common agent, and many foods contain it naturally.
Didn't know that...0 -
A role for inflammation has become well established over the past decade or more in theories describing the atherosclerotic disease process.4,5 From a pathological viewpoint, all stages, ie, initiation, growth, and complication of the atherosclerotic plaque,6,7 might be considered to be an inflammatory response to injury. The major injurious factors that promote atherogenesis—cigarette smoking, hypertension, atherogenic lipoproteins, and hyperglycemia—are well established
Johnny, I read the article and found this^^. Basically, what I gathered from it, is that inflammation is a major cause of atherosclerosis, and their risk of causing a heart attack. I have not found any actual data that says that the inflammation is caused by "not eating clean". It just says that causes of inflammation are due to cholesterol levels, smoking, and the typically well known causes. However, think of all the stuff they put in our food that we don't even know about. How long have they been putting "pink slime" in our food, and we're just now recently finding out about it. I know not all documentaries are factual either, but I've watched a few on how animals that we eat are raised. It's not natural. Their raised with NO sunlight, and fed diets of corn. Naturally, those animals are supposed to be eating grass. All of the preservatives that are put in all of those packaged and canned foods can't be good for us.
We've always known about pink slime. No one ever cared about it. It's just meat. There's nothing wrong with pink slime.
I'd like to see data indicating what types of foods or specific ingredients or chemicals contribute to cardiovascular inflammation.
Sorry, can't help you. I for one think pink slime is gross, and I don't think cleaning our food with ammonia can be a good thing, but who am I?
Chances are a lot of things you eat are cleaned with or contain ammonia. It's a common agent, and many foods contain it naturally.
Didn't know that...
Peanut butter, mill, cheese, cured meats, bread, etc. It's a non issue. Pink slime is an "ew that looks gross" issue not a health issue.0 -
A role for inflammation has become well established over the past decade or more in theories describing the atherosclerotic disease process.4,5 From a pathological viewpoint, all stages, ie, initiation, growth, and complication of the atherosclerotic plaque,6,7 might be considered to be an inflammatory response to injury. The major injurious factors that promote atherogenesis—cigarette smoking, hypertension, atherogenic lipoproteins, and hyperglycemia—are well established
Johnny, I read the article and found this^^. Basically, what I gathered from it, is that inflammation is a major cause of atherosclerosis, and their risk of causing a heart attack. I have not found any actual data that says that the inflammation is caused by "not eating clean". It just says that causes of inflammation are due to cholesterol levels, smoking, and the typically well known causes. However, think of all the stuff they put in our food that we don't even know about. How long have they been putting "pink slime" in our food, and we're just now recently finding out about it. I know not all documentaries are factual either, but I've watched a few on how animals that we eat are raised. It's not natural. Their raised with NO sunlight, and fed diets of corn. Naturally, those animals are supposed to be eating grass. All of the preservatives that are put in all of those packaged and canned foods can't be good for us.
We've always known about pink slime. No one ever cared about it. It's just meat. There's nothing wrong with pink slime.
I'd like to see data indicating what types of foods or specific ingredients or chemicals contribute to cardiovascular inflammation.
Sorry, can't help you. I for one think pink slime is gross, and I don't think cleaning our food with ammonia can be a good thing, but who am I?
Chances are a lot of things you eat are cleaned with or contain ammonia. It's a common agent, and many foods contain it naturally.
Didn't know that...
Peanut butter, mill, cheese, cured meats, bread, etc. It's a non issue. Pink slime is an "ew that looks gross" issue not a health issue.
Hmmmm.....that's messed up.1 -
Just turns out small quantities of ammonia are common, natural, and harmless.0
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That's my impression to N, but if someone is saying the data is there to indicate certain dietary choices lead to chronic inflammation I'm rather interested. Of Amy Sue h data exists I want to see it.
You might be interested in this article. A New Dietary Inflammatory Index Predicts Interval Changes in Serum High-Sensitivity C-Reactive Protein
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2777480/#!po=22.0000
It's available on PMC for free and it provides details of how the dietary inflammation score was calculated ie. how foods etc. were weighted.
Abstract: Inflammation is associated with a number of chronic conditions, such as cancer and cardiovascular disease. Reducing inflammation may help prevent or treat these conditions. Diet has consistently been shown to modulate inflammation. To facilitate research into the inflammatory effect of diet on health in humans, we sought to develop and validate an Inflammatory Index designed to assess the inflammatory potential of individuals' diets. An Inflammatory Index was developed based on the results of an extensive literature search. Using data from a longitudinal observational study that carefully measured diet and the inflammatory marker, serum high-sensitivity (hs) C-reactive protein (CRP), in ~600 adults for 1 y, we conducted analyses to test the effect of Inflammatory Index score on hs-CRP as a continuous and dichotomous (≤3 mg/L, >3 mg/L) indicator of inflammatory response, while controlling for important potential confounders. Results based on continuous measures of hs-CRP suggested that an increasing Inflammatory Index score (representing movement toward an antiinflammatory diet) was associated with a decrease in hs-CRP. Analyses using hs-CRP as a dichotomous variable showed that an antiinflammatory diet was associated with a decrease in the odds of an elevated hs-CRP (P = 0.049). The results are consistent with the ability of the Inflammatory Index to predict hs-CRP and provide additional evidence that diet plays a role in the regulation of inflammation, even after careful control of a wide variety of potential confounders.0 -
That's my impression to N, but if someone is saying the data is there to indicate certain dietary choices lead to chronic inflammation I'm rather interested. Of Amy Sue h data exists I want to see it.
You might be interested in this article. A New Dietary Inflammatory Index Predicts Interval Changes in Serum High-Sensitivity C-Reactive Protein
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2777480/#!po=22.0000
It's available on PMC for free and it provides details of how the dietary inflammation score was calculated ie. how foods etc. were weighted.
Abstract: Inflammation is associated with a number of chronic conditions, such as cancer and cardiovascular disease. Reducing inflammation may help prevent or treat these conditions. Diet has consistently been shown to modulate inflammation. To facilitate research into the inflammatory effect of diet on health in humans, we sought to develop and validate an Inflammatory Index designed to assess the inflammatory potential of individuals' diets. An Inflammatory Index was developed based on the results of an extensive literature search. Using data from a longitudinal observational study that carefully measured diet and the inflammatory marker, serum high-sensitivity (hs) C-reactive protein (CRP), in ~600 adults for 1 y, we conducted analyses to test the effect of Inflammatory Index score on hs-CRP as a continuous and dichotomous (≤3 mg/L, >3 mg/L) indicator of inflammatory response, while controlling for important potential confounders. Results based on continuous measures of hs-CRP suggested that an increasing Inflammatory Index score (representing movement toward an antiinflammatory diet) was associated with a decrease in hs-CRP. Analyses using hs-CRP as a dichotomous variable showed that an antiinflammatory diet was associated with a decrease in the odds of an elevated hs-CRP (P = 0.049). The results are consistent with the ability of the Inflammatory Index to predict hs-CRP and provide additional evidence that diet plays a role in the regulation of inflammation, even after careful control of a wide variety of potential confounders.0 -
The western diet is filled with sodium and omega 6 fatty acids and low in vitamins and minerals. This combination creates acidic and inflammatory environments within the body. Of course a proper "clean" diet is what should be recommended. Statins and heart surgeries don't remove the issue of heart disease they just mask it.0
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If this is the case, how does one explain cases like mine, where my cholesterol levels have improved significantly over time despite high quantities of sugar intake?
Would have been nice if he gave references for some of these claims.
Well, he does say that losing weight also significantly lower cholesterol, as well, if I'm not mistaken. That's true, there are no references, but I do think that diet plays a huge role, as well as genetics, since so many of my patients say they take their meds religiously, and stick to a much healthier diet, and still come back.
Then as a nurse, you'd know that patients aren't always honest about compliance and diet/exercise habits at home. Those patients that say they are, aren't a reliable source of information either, even though they should be for their own sake.
Yeah, those patients are filthy liars. No way those meds might actually be useless.0 -
It should also be noted that he lost his medical license in 2008......
http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/lundell.html0 -
I think I "really" know why they return to your unit! :-)
Anyways, my fear of heart disease is one of the primary reasons I need to lose weight and eat healthier. I have learned a lot about nutrition in the last 3 months and through changing my diet, I have almost lost 25 pounds. It hasn't been too hard either. Thanks for this article, the more information I absorb, the better off I think I will be in the long run.0 -
It should also be noted that he lost his medical license in 2008......
http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/lundell.html
All the sudden, this gets more interesting.0 -
If this is the case, how does one explain cases like mine, where my cholesterol levels have improved significantly over time despite high quantities of sugar intake?
Would have been nice if he gave references for some of these claims.
Well, he does say that losing weight also significantly lower cholesterol, as well, if I'm not mistaken. That's true, there are no references, but I do think that diet plays a huge role, as well as genetics, since so many of my patients say they take their meds religiously, and stick to a much healthier diet, and still come back.
Then as a nurse, you'd know that patients aren't always honest about compliance and diet/exercise habits at home. Those patients that say they are, aren't a reliable source of information either, even though they should be for their own sake.
Yeah, those patients are filthy liars. No way those meds might actually be useless.
No one's saying the meds are the end-all, be-all. But I can tell you from experience (clinical research) that people lie their butts off about whether they're taking their meds, and whether they are following the correct protocol for taking their meds - even meds that have few if any side effects and have a definite positive effect on symptoms. The worse the drug is perceived, the worse compliance becomes. It's common enough that many trials pay for additional blood or urine testing every visit to confirm that the appropriate levels of meds are found.0
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