Why you gain weight if you eat more than your cut
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Bump. Thanks for this0
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Just wondering how do you know it's 5Ibs of glycogen stores and your not actually gaining by eating a surplus of calories , like is there a time period you should wait out and see do you continue gaining or if you gain more than 5Ibs then you know your eating too much
Has anyone found walking up calories prevents this or will it more than likely happen anyway or again is it completely individual ?
One of my reasons I ask is because my boyfriend is freaking at the thought of me dropping below 8stone his genuinely unhappy about it but I've tried to reassure him that there's a strong chance ill put on 5Ibs which will bring me back up again but his not buying it and aswell my doctor is currently monitoring my weight so I also have him to answer to. I want to maintain between 110-115 so I don't know should I drop to 110 with chances of that 5Ib gain taking me to 115 again
I know it's only a stupid number on the scale but can't help that it does bother me0 -
I think that 5 lbs is about right (for an average).
When STARTING a diet, I tend to lose about 5 lbs of water weight from carb depletion (and not to mention that my diets are usually lower in salt and so I lose some of that fluid as well).
So it makes sense to expect to put some of that fluid (not fat) on again when maintaining.
Great OP.
Haters be haters.0 -
Just wondering how do you know it's 5Ibs of glycogen stores and your not actually gaining by eating a surplus of calories , like is there a time period you should wait out and see do you continue gaining or if you gain more than 5Ibs then you know your eating too much
Has anyone found walking up calories prevents this or will it more than likely happen anyway or again is it completely individual ?
One of my reasons I ask is because my boyfriend is freaking at the thought of me dropping below 8stone his genuinely unhappy about it but I've tried to reassure him that there's a strong chance ill put on 5Ibs which will bring me back up again but his not buying it and aswell my doctor is currently monitoring my weight so I also have him to answer to. I want to maintain between 110-115 so I don't know should I drop to 110 with chances of that 5Ib gain taking me to 115 again
I know it's only a stupid number on the scale but can't help that it does bother me
How tall are you?0 -
Just wondering how do you know it's 5Ibs of glycogen stores and your not actually gaining by eating a surplus of calories , like is there a time period you should wait out and see do you continue gaining or if you gain more than 5Ibs then you know your eating too much
Has anyone found walking up calories prevents this or will it more than likely happen anyway or again is it completely individual ?
One of my reasons I ask is because my boyfriend is freaking at the thought of me dropping below 8stone his genuinely unhappy about it but I've tried to reassure him that there's a strong chance ill put on 5Ibs which will bring me back up again but his not buying it and aswell my doctor is currently monitoring my weight so I also have him to answer to. I want to maintain between 110-115 so I don't know should I drop to 110 with chances of that 5Ib gain taking me to 115 again
I know it's only a stupid number on the scale but can't help that it does bother me
Be aware that although this scenario may be true for some people it certainly isn't going to be the case that everyone has glycogen depletion and will experience a sudden gain. There's going to be loads of factors at play including the size of your deficit while losing, how long you have been cutting, your body composition and training.
Reading this thread and randomly deciding to over-shoot goal weight by 5lbs is a mistake in my opinion - you could just as easily taper off your deficit on the way down or build up your calories slowly once you get to maintenance weight. See no reason why either of those strategies wouldn't work.
I'm concerned that people will latch on to this as a way to justify an unnecessary and prolonged restriction.
To answer your "walking up calories" question - I lost my last few pounds slowly and when I reached goal I increased my calories to maintain and saw no mysterious weight bounce.0 -
Just wondering how do you know it's 5Ibs of glycogen stores and your not actually gaining by eating a surplus of calories , like is there a time period you should wait out and see do you continue gaining or if you gain more than 5Ibs then you know your eating too much
Has anyone found walking up calories prevents this or will it more than likely happen anyway or again is it completely individual ?
One of my reasons I ask is because my boyfriend is freaking at the thought of me dropping below 8stone his genuinely unhappy about it but I've tried to reassure him that there's a strong chance ill put on 5Ibs which will bring me back up again but his not buying it and aswell my doctor is currently monitoring my weight so I also have him to answer to. I want to maintain between 110-115 so I don't know should I drop to 110 with chances of that 5Ib gain taking me to 115 again
I know it's only a stupid number on the scale but can't help that it does bother me
How tall are you?
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Just wondering how do you know it's 5Ibs of glycogen stores and your not actually gaining by eating a surplus of calories , like is there a time period you should wait out and see do you continue gaining or if you gain more than 5Ibs then you know your eating too much
Has anyone found walking up calories prevents this or will it more than likely happen anyway or again is it completely individual ?
One of my reasons I ask is because my boyfriend is freaking at the thought of me dropping below 8stone his genuinely unhappy about it but I've tried to reassure him that there's a strong chance ill put on 5Ibs which will bring me back up again but his not buying it and aswell my doctor is currently monitoring my weight so I also have him to answer to. I want to maintain between 110-115 so I don't know should I drop to 110 with chances of that 5Ib gain taking me to 115 again
I know it's only a stupid number on the scale but can't help that it does bother me
Be aware that although this scenario may be true for some people it certainly isn't going to be the case that everyone has glycogen depletion and will experience a sudden gain. There's going to be loads of factors at play including the size of your deficit while losing, how long you have been cutting, your body composition and training.
Reading this thread and randomly deciding to over-shoot goal weight by 5lbs is a mistake in my opinion - you could just as easily taper off your deficit on the way down or build up your calories slowly once you get to maintenance weight. See no reason why either of those strategies wouldn't work.
I'm concerned that people will latch on to this as a way to justify an unnecessary and prolonged restriction.
To answer your "walking up calories" question - I lost my last few pounds slowly and when I reached goal I increased my calories to maintain and saw no mysterious weight bounce.
Ya so the answer seems to be quiet individual to a person , so maybe I should just continue to walk my calories up and see where it's takes me , I wouldn't be as concerned only that I've too head strong men monitoring me at the moment
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My doctor kind of dismissed the whole gaining weight due to glycogen stores aswell I just don't think he wanted to enable to me to justify losing more weight0 -
Great post. Luckily, I like a softer silhouette, I don't go for major definition, so I'll be happy with the post-repletion body I get. But the "lose 5 more pounds" trick is one I'm filing away, it's a great idea. :drinker:0
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Just wondering how do you know it's 5Ibs of glycogen stores and your not actually gaining by eating a surplus of calories , like is there a time period you should wait out and see do you continue gaining or if you gain more than 5Ibs then you know your eating too much
Has anyone found walking up calories prevents this or will it more than likely happen anyway or again is it completely individual ?
One of my reasons I ask is because my boyfriend is freaking at the thought of me dropping below 8stone his genuinely unhappy about it but I've tried to reassure him that there's a strong chance ill put on 5Ibs which will bring me back up again but his not buying it and aswell my doctor is currently monitoring my weight so I also have him to answer to. I want to maintain between 110-115 so I don't know should I drop to 110 with chances of that 5Ib gain taking me to 115 again
I know it's only a stupid number on the scale but can't help that it does bother me
Be aware that although this scenario may be true for some people it certainly isn't going to be the case that everyone has glycogen depletion and will experience a sudden gain. There's going to be loads of factors at play including the size of your deficit while losing, how long you have been cutting, your body composition and training.
Reading this thread and randomly deciding to over-shoot goal weight by 5lbs is a mistake in my opinion - you could just as easily taper off your deficit on the way down or build up your calories slowly once you get to maintenance weight. See no reason why either of those strategies wouldn't work.
I'm concerned that people will latch on to this as a way to justify an unnecessary and prolonged restriction.
To answer your "walking up calories" question - I lost my last few pounds slowly and when I reached goal I increased my calories to maintain and saw no mysterious weight bounce.
Yes, for someone who is 5'2" and 110-115lbs I think 5 lbs is WAY over shooting it. You may store maybe 2-3 lbs of glycogen and water combined... I'm really certain it has to do with quantity of LBM (the glycogen is stored in the muscle).
And yes, stepping up calories gradually, by say 100 calories daily for a week at a time until you find your maintenance also works:
Suppose, for instance, you have a 500 calorie daily deficit to lose, when you step up slowly, you still have a 400 calorie daily deficit for a week followed by a 300 calorie daily deficit for a week, followed by a 200 calorie daily deficit for a week etc. As you can see, you'll continue to lose fat as you're replenishing glycogen and it will all balance out in the end. Or, you just cut down a few extra pounds and up to maintenance all at once and see a bounce. Both do exactly the same thing.0 -
You have to reverse diet after going on a cut, especially a long one.0
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Bump for all the great info!0
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Sure in a perfect world we would all ignore the scale. But given that I know there are countless people who are not ignoring the scale, I wanted to she's light on the reasons why these small gains are happening. Maybe once those who are maintaining using scale values to gauge their success feel confident that their weight is indeed stable, then they will feel more comfortable with the knowledge that they've found the correct caloric intake for them.
So where does the 5lb figure come from? Thin air? Esp for people who already have unrealistic goal weights, now you're telling them to cut even further so they can maintain their goal weight after moving to maintenance. Just going to create a whole mess of neurotic idiots focused on scale weight. ZOMG i'm up 5.3lbs, that must mean I gained .3lbs of fat, better cut cals and take it off!
this lol, the scale is not the way...0 -
Bump for later0
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Big appetite, likes to eat sweets and oil for frying food, alcohol, age, metabolism slows down growth were easy to obesity. As relieve mental stress to eating as mental stress, worry and other means to get those same psychological balance can cause obesity. Social prejudices and conventional wisdom is that obesity is a "Lovely", "lucky", so that overeating can also promote their obesity. Suddenly stopped and chronic physical exercise can also cause long-term bedridden after obesity.0
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Thank you so much for sharing this0
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thank you for that information. I have had problems knowing how to maintain a stable weight.
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This is very interesting. I like the follow up link by OP so that critics can go get a second/third source of information.
I'm glad to have this as a reminder for when I reach my goal.
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thanks OP.
It is interesting.
I do however wonder where the 5 pound number comes from? I'm pretty sure - working in health - the liver could not stock 5 pds of glycogen. Just curious where this number comes from.0 -
thanks OP.
It is interesting.
I do however wonder where the 5 pound number comes from? I'm pretty sure - working in health - the liver could not stock 5 pds of glycogen. Just curious where this number comes from.
It's not 5 lbs for everyone. It could be 2 lbs for a very small woman... it could be 8 lbs for a large man who lifts. Each person has to play with their goal weight to find where they settle in once they increase calories. It's more about knowing there WILL be a rebound of some glycogen & water weight. How much will definitely depend on the person. My point is that cutting to exactly your goal weight and then going directly to maintenance doesn't usually allow you to stay at that bottomed out weight.0 -
This is very helpful and something I have been struggling with lately.0
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Have a long way to go but great to know for the future. Also, helps to explain how I can instantly seemingly overnight gain >5 lbs of weight after just one weekend of cheating on my calories.0
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Have a long way to go but great to know for the future. Also, helps to explain how I can instantly seemingly overnight gain >5 lbs of weight after just one weekend of cheating on my calories.
^Yes. Me too.0
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