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  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
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    Youre eating too much. Start eating only half of exercise calories back. Give it a month, adjust as needed after that month.

    OP is a guy. a guy that is my height and just a little under my weight, and is eating drastically less than i do.

    Funkhjam, i recommend you eat MORE. Like, at least 2000. adjust your activity level to "lightly active" and your weight loss goals to 'losing 1lb per week.'

    How is eating more going to make him lose weight? And I'm not some low calorie pusher (I lose on 1800) but mathematically that makes no sense.

    Am I the only one who can see how that makes no sense?

    many people find themselves more saitated, and able to work harder when they consume more calories. the body is also a tricky thing; when you restric calories, it will take energy from many parts of the body, generally attacking the easier meals first, such as the muscles. it leaves the fat, because it needs the fat for warmth.

    eat more, exercise harder.
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
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    Youre eating too much. Start eating only half of exercise calories back. Give it a month, adjust as needed after that month.

    OP is a guy. a guy that is my height and just a little under my weight, and is eating drastically less than i do.

    Funkhjam, i recommend you eat MORE. Like, at least 2000. adjust your activity level to "lightly active" and your weight loss goals to 'losing 1lb per week.'

    How is eating more going to make him lose weight? And I'm not some low calorie pusher (I lose on 1800) but mathematically that makes no sense.

    Am I the only one who can see how that makes no sense?


    Okay so what would you recommend for the lower rate. What should I drop it to?

    I would adjust via your workout calories. Halve what you're back and try that out for a month. If you're happy with how it goes then stick with it. If not tweak again.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,268 Member
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    Personally I think you would do better losing 1lb a week. It gives you more calories to play with.

    And I'm not sure why so many people are recommending "eat back your calories you burn". There's no need to.

    because MFP is NEAT method not TDEE...so the deficet is already built into the calorie goals set my MFP.

    Actually it is TDEE, hence the workout intervals/time question it asks when signing up.

    no it's not otherwise it wouldn't add in exercise calories when you record them...

    Those questions are there to set goals and activity level.
  • martyqueen52
    martyqueen52 Posts: 1,120 Member
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    Personally I think you would do better losing 1lb a week. It gives you more calories to play with.

    And I'm not sure why so many people are recommending "eat back your calories you burn". There's no need to.

    because MFP is NEAT method not TDEE...so the deficet is already built into the calorie goals set my MFP.

    Actually it is TDEE, hence the workout intervals/time question it asks when signing up.

    no it's not otherwise it wouldn't add in exercise calories when you record them...

    Those questions are there to set goals and activity level.

    I'll agree to disagree, hence the fact other well known TDEE calcs. use the same method and get up with almost identical numbers. And from personal experience of lean bulking and adding over 10 lbs. of muscle there was no need to "eat back calories".
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,268 Member
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    [I'll agree to disagree, hence the fact other well known TDEE calcs. use the same method and get up with almost identical numbers. And from personal experience of lean bulking and adding over 10 lbs. of muscle there was no need to "eat back calories".

    It's not a disagree or agree thing your wrong..but you believe whatever you want...I know I am right therefore I don't have to prove it.

    But just in case you want to double check your facts see links below or use the search funtion.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/818082-exercise-calories-again-wtf
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1147721-tdee-and-net-calories
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1183428-tdee-vs-neat?hl=TDEE+vs+NEAT#posts-18476322
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
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    I am 6'2" and I started with a weight of 228. I am in a position that isn't too terribly active so I set my activity at sedentary. My goal is to lose 2lbs a week. I have been a calorie counting fiend, my wife can tell you. I measure precisely. My calorie limit is 1580. I began on 12/14/13. Since then I've gone from 228 to 225 to 223 and the past 3 weeks I have stayed at 223. This weeks weigh in put me at 226. I don't understand what I am doing wrong. I do exercise by doing Zumba, walking, and household activities such as hauling wood, etc. When I do those exercises, I count them in to ensure I am meeting my calorie limit.

    Is my limit too high? Do I need to lower it? What do I need to do?
    Do not trust the MFP calorie burned estimations. If you are doing everything the same, it could be killing your deficit.

    That three pounds could also be natural weight fluctuations. Patience is a virtue.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
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  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
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    Youre eating too much. Start eating only half of exercise calories back. Give it a month, adjust as needed after that month.

    OP is a guy. a guy that is my height and just a little under my weight, and is eating drastically less than i do.

    Funkhjam, i recommend you eat MORE. Like, at least 2000. adjust your activity level to "lightly active" and your weight loss goals to 'losing 1lb per week.'

    And, there we go! It never takes long for the "eat more if you're not losing weight" contribution to show up. Let's not assume that OP is perfectly accurate on calorie counts and calorie burns, to start with. The biggest mistake most of us make is overestimating calories burned with activity. It's likely that he overcalculated that and then ate back those calories, eliminating the deficit needed to continue weight loss.
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
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    Youre eating too much. Start eating only half of exercise calories back. Give it a month, adjust as needed after that month.

    OP is a guy. a guy that is my height and just a little under my weight, and is eating drastically less than i do.

    Funkhjam, i recommend you eat MORE. Like, at least 2000. adjust your activity level to "lightly active" and your weight loss goals to 'losing 1lb per week.'

    And, there we go! It never takes long for the "eat more if you're not losing weight" contribution to show up. Let's not assume that OP is perfectly accurate on calorie counts and calorie burns, to start with. The biggest mistake most of us make is overestimating calories burned with activity. It's likely that he overcalculated that and then ate back those calories, eliminating the deficit needed to continue weight loss.

    you're welcome!!
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
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    Youre eating too much. Start eating only half of exercise calories back. Give it a month, adjust as needed after that month.

    OP is a guy. a guy that is my height and just a little under my weight, and is eating drastically less than i do.

    Funkhjam, i recommend you eat MORE. Like, at least 2000. adjust your activity level to "lightly active" and your weight loss goals to 'losing 1lb per week.'

    And, there we go! It never takes long for the "eat more if you're not losing weight" contribution to show up. Let's not assume that OP is perfectly accurate on calorie counts and calorie burns, to start with. The biggest mistake most of us make is overestimating calories burned with activity. It's likely that he overcalculated that and then ate back those calories, eliminating the deficit needed to continue weight loss.

    you're welcome!!

    :tongue: keeping life interesting :tongue:
  • darbbb
    darbbb Posts: 12
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    I can't give you advice, but I can tell you I am in the same boat. I am 6'2, 244. I have been following MFP's guidelines for over a month. The first week, I lost three pounds, and since then, nothing. I go round and round with the same two pounds, I measure and weigh everything, and I workout six days a week. I used a HRM to track exercise calories. I am eating net 1700 calories a day. I got the same adivce...."are you sure you are measuring everything accurately"....YES, I am. Or, "maybe you should eat more," and I don't think the answer to weightloss is more calories. I am baffled, stumped, and completely frustrated.
  • ScientificExplorerGirl
    ScientificExplorerGirl Posts: 535 Member
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    Youre eating too much. Start eating only half of exercise calories back. Give it a month, adjust as needed after that month.

    OP is a guy. a guy that is my height and just a little under my weight, and is eating drastically less than i do.

    Funkhjam, i recommend you eat MORE. Like, at least 2000. adjust your activity level to "lightly active" and your weight loss goals to 'losing 1lb per week.'

    How is eating more going to make him lose weight? And I'm not some low calorie pusher (I lose on 1800) but mathematically that makes no sense.

    Am I the only one who can see how that makes no sense?


    Okay so what would you recommend for the lower rate. What should I drop it to?

    I would adjust via your workout calories. Halve what you're back and try that out for a month. If you're happy with how it goes then stick with it. If not tweak again.

    I agree with this poster. Eat less, move more. Be conservatively high in logging calories; conservatively low in logging exercise.

    I looked through your diary; your protein intake seems far too low for a man. Take a look at this thread:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1167386-review-of-dietary-protein-during-caloric-restriction?hl=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24092765+&page=1#posts-18248705

    It gives the most up to date figures for protein intake during caloric restriction. Recommendation is for 1.1-1.4 grams per pound of lean body mass.
  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
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    Youre eating too much. Start eating only half of exercise calories back. Give it a month, adjust as needed after that month.

    OP is a guy. a guy that is my height and just a little under my weight, and is eating drastically less than i do.

    Funkhjam, i recommend you eat MORE. Like, at least 2000. adjust your activity level to "lightly active" and your weight loss goals to 'losing 1lb per week.'

    And, there we go! It never takes long for the "eat more if you're not losing weight" contribution to show up. Let's not assume that OP is perfectly accurate on calorie counts and calorie burns, to start with. The biggest mistake most of us make is overestimating calories burned with activity. It's likely that he overcalculated that and then ate back those calories, eliminating the deficit needed to continue weight loss.

    you're welcome!!

    :tongue: keeping life interesting :tongue:

    are you flirting with me??
  • martyqueen52
    martyqueen52 Posts: 1,120 Member
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    [I'll agree to disagree, hence the fact other well known TDEE calcs. use the same method and get up with almost identical numbers. And from personal experience of lean bulking and adding over 10 lbs. of muscle there was no need to "eat back calories".

    It's not a disagree or agree thing your wrong..but you believe whatever you want...I know I am right therefore I don't have to prove it.

    But just in case you want to double check your facts see links below or use the search funtion.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/818082-exercise-calories-again-wtf
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1147721-tdee-and-net-calories
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1183428-tdee-vs-neat?hl=TDEE+vs+NEAT#posts-18476322

    To each their own. Enjoy slow weight loss. :)
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
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    You mentioned that you use measuring cups. Be sure that you use the scale for solids and measuring cups only for liquids. Here's a good example of why:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY

    And overall a good read:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/872212-you-re-probably-eating-more-than-you-think
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
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    [I'll agree to disagree, hence the fact other well known TDEE calcs. use the same method and get up with almost identical numbers. And from personal experience of lean bulking and adding over 10 lbs. of muscle there was no need to "eat back calories".

    It's not a disagree or agree thing your wrong..but you believe whatever you want...I know I am right therefore I don't have to prove it.

    But just in case you want to double check your facts see links below or use the search funtion.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/818082-exercise-calories-again-wtf
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1147721-tdee-and-net-calories
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1183428-tdee-vs-neat?hl=TDEE+vs+NEAT#posts-18476322

    To each their own. Enjoy slow weight loss. :)

    I lost 75 in 6 months...I wouldn't call that slow...
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
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    [I'll agree to disagree, hence the fact other well known TDEE calcs. use the same method and get up with almost identical numbers. And from personal experience of lean bulking and adding over 10 lbs. of muscle there was no need to "eat back calories".

    It's not a disagree or agree thing your wrong..but you believe whatever you want...I know I am right therefore I don't have to prove it.

    But just in case you want to double check your facts see links below or use the search funtion.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/818082-exercise-calories-again-wtf
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1147721-tdee-and-net-calories
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1183428-tdee-vs-neat?hl=TDEE+vs+NEAT#posts-18476322

    To each their own. Enjoy slow weight loss. :)
    Perhaps you'll believe the help section written by the people who developed the site:
    http://myfitnesspal.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/410332-how-does-myfitnesspal-calculate-my-initial-goals-

    Or are the developers also confused about how their own site works?
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
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    Youre eating too much. Start eating only half of exercise calories back. Give it a month, adjust as needed after that month.

    OP is a guy. a guy that is my height and just a little under my weight, and is eating drastically less than i do.

    Funkhjam, i recommend you eat MORE. Like, at least 2000. adjust your activity level to "lightly active" and your weight loss goals to 'losing 1lb per week.'

    And, there we go! It never takes long for the "eat more if you're not losing weight" contribution to show up. Let's not assume that OP is perfectly accurate on calorie counts and calorie burns, to start with. The biggest mistake most of us make is overestimating calories burned with activity. It's likely that he overcalculated that and then ate back those calories, eliminating the deficit needed to continue weight loss.

    you're welcome!!

    :tongue: keeping life interesting :tongue:

    are you flirting with me??

    always!

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