Okay.. What now!

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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    I'm afraid yes about 1000 a day. I appreciate that's low but to me, logic suggests eating more will simply reverse the weight loss. I did lose a hell of a lot before starting the workout. It's departed all my body but my damn belly!!!!
    Well, eating that few calories will cause you initial weight gain no matter what amount you eat. Why? Because you are not eating enough.

    The weight gain will taper off after a short while, then if you eat over your TDEE (total daily Energy Expenditure) you will gain weight[, but you will not gain weight if you eat below that.

    If you have been eating at such a deficit, you are not gaining muscle. In fact, I'll bet you are losing muscle.

    If I were you, I'd increase your calories and continue wth the weight lifting.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    I am starting to think you people aren't impressed with my diet!
    You know the discipline it takes to go from eating anything and doing little or nothing for 10 years to this!!
    Insanity on 1000 calories!!!
    I only want some abs! I already have great abs, you just can't see em!!
    Well, eat more and you will get those hot abs. Period.

    You are correct, I am not impressed by your diet.
  • Ajruk
    Ajruk Posts: 18
    Wow that's really really good advice and I appreciate it greatly!
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    That sounds good stef! Will that continue to work on the insanity? People will say I'm mad doing insanity on 500 calories twice a week!

    You can exercise while eating 500 cal TWICE a week as long as you eat up (not over) your TDEE on the remaining 5 days! Take note: once again...you need to eat MORE to lose weight!

    Stef.
    No, Stef, this information is incorrect. He needs to eat more than that on any given day in order to properly fuel his body.
  • AlwaysInMotion
    AlwaysInMotion Posts: 409 Member
    Fats needed.. Not saturates though.. A curry for instance I am craving like hell!

    And for heaven's sake, have some curry. I'm making some Chicken Makhani tomorrow aka Butter Chicken. If your recipe calls for oils/fats, just use less. Swap out high-fat yogurt or cream for low or zero fat versions, double the lean protein and serve it with way less rice (or skip rice altogether). Curry *can* fit in your diet. Also look up IIFYM - "If It Fits Your Macros". It's a diet approach as well. But that's a whole different discussion topic.
  • Ajruk
    Ajruk Posts: 18
    okay my tdee is 3400 calories a day! So if i eat a massive3000 calories a day of healthy things, I will lose weight? Really?
    Also would the insanity be sufficient daily exercise? It only last 40 mins currently?
  • AlwaysInMotion
    AlwaysInMotion Posts: 409 Member
    okay my tdee is 3400 calories a day! So if i eat a massive3000 calories a day of healthy things, I will lose weight? Really?
    Also would the insanity be sufficient daily exercise? It only last 40 mins currently?

    OK. I punched in your numbers into the TDEE calculator and here's what I got.
    Male, 34 years old, 84kg, 6'2"
    If I picked light exercise (1-3 days/wk), your TDEE is 2647 cals/day.
    If I picked moderate exercise (3-5 days/wk), your TDEE is 2984 cals/day.

    Even if you are doing Insanity every day, I wouldn't go above moderate activity. I know that doesn't make sense. I think "heavy exercise" is really meant for people who work out extensively nearly every day.

    You can probably try a TDEE-20% deficit (perhaps even TDEE -15%). That would give you 2118 cals/day for light exercise and 2387 cals/day for moderate exercise. Try the "moderate" 2387 cals/day and if you feel that's not as effective for weight loss, try the lower 2118 cals/day.

    NOW, as you get smaller, you will need to recalculate your TDEE because there is less of you. Down the road, you may also want to consider changing from 20% to 15% because it gets harder to cut calories the closer you get to your goal weight. Luckily, your body will give you hints about what you need to adjust.

    Again, I hope that helps.
  • Ajruk
    Ajruk Posts: 18
    thats perfect!! I really appreciate you taking the time to look that it!
    I will use exactly those figures.. Should I avoid eating too late?
    Too early?
  • gregpack
    gregpack Posts: 426 Member
    If you start to eat maintenance you will gain some scale weight as your glycogen stores are replenished. Don't panic,. it will level off.

    crash dieting will result in the loss of hard earned muscle mass.You need to figure out how to eat sensibly at a slight deficit and your composition will improve over time.
  • Ajruk
    Ajruk Posts: 18
    this is all great news! I was really getting pissed off with eating sweet FA!!
    Thanks again everyone for your feedback, good or bad!
  • AlwaysInMotion
    AlwaysInMotion Posts: 409 Member
    Luckily, 2118 cals/day is 20% below his TDEE maintenance level (2647), so he shouldn't see any gain. Gregpack is right though, sometimes you will see a gain and then drop when you adjust your calorie intake. The body has to adapt. I remember upping my calorie intake based on TDEE and it ended a plateau and I dropped a sudden amount of weight. So it just depends.

    I recommend spreading your calories across the entire day (except for sleep time, of course). For example, have 5-6 smaller meals instead of 2-3 big ones. You will be eating the same total calories - you are just spreading them out better. That will help distribute your energy and will keep you from having those nasty blood sugar spikes and drops. Personally, I don't eat late because it's too tempting to just keep eating.
  • judybtwo
    judybtwo Posts: 3 Member
    http://thefitgirls.com/tdee-calculator.aspx

    Here is a link to a calculator. I found it useful:happy:
  • megsmom2
    megsmom2 Posts: 2,362 Member
    Troll. Undernourished uninformed hungry troll.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    Just to clarify, you're 6ft2, doing insanity and eating 900 cals a day.....?

    No way.

    It's physically mpossible to maintain Insanity level workouts on that little food.

    Either the calories are being severely underestimated or the workouts are being done at very low intensity. Possibly both.
  • AlwaysInMotion
    AlwaysInMotion Posts: 409 Member
    Troll. Undernourished uninformed hungry troll.

    I get the impression he's really trying. I think he just started out awkwardly. He seems receptive to the help - if you bothered to read all of his replies.

    (Wikipedia) In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally[3][4] or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[5] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[6]

    So, pray tell, how does this definition not more aptly apply to your posting?
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Troll. Undernourished uninformed hungry troll.

    I get the impression he's really trying. I think he just started out awkwardly. He seems receptive to the help - if you bothered to read all of his replies.

    (Wikipedia) In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally[3][4] or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[5] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[6]

    So, pray tell, how does this definition not more aptly apply to your posting?
    It often seems, on this site, that folks have lost the definition of "troll". "Troll" here is often used to mean "so wrong or silly it can't be real". The OP doesn't seem like a troll to me at all.
  • AlwaysInMotion
    AlwaysInMotion Posts: 409 Member
    Troll. Undernourished uninformed hungry troll.

    I get the impression he's really trying. I think he just started out awkwardly. He seems receptive to the help - if you bothered to read all of his replies.

    (Wikipedia) In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally[3][4] or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[5] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[6]

    So, pray tell, how does this definition not more aptly apply to your posting?
    It often seems, on this site, that folks have lost the definition of "troll". "Troll" here is often used to mean "so wrong or silly it can't be real". The OP doesn't seem like a troll to me at all.

    ^^^ THIS! I'd hate to bring the OP around and then have the "troll" thing tossed in like a hand grenade. He's new. He's trying. Let's give him a decent MFP welcome, right?
  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    Troll. Undernourished uninformed hungry troll.

    I get the impression he's really trying. I think he just started out awkwardly. He seems receptive to the help - if you bothered to read all of his replies.

    (Wikipedia) In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally[3][4] or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[5] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[6]

    So, pray tell, how does this definition not more aptly apply to your posting?
    It often seems, on this site, that folks have lost the definition of "troll". "Troll" here is often used to mean "so wrong or silly it can't be real". The OP doesn't seem like a troll to me at all.

    ^^^ THIS! I'd hate to bring the OP around and then have the "troll" thing tossed in like a hand grenade. He's new. He's trying. Let's give him a decent MFP welcome, right?

    I agree. He does seem to be listening.
  • Snow3y
    Snow3y Posts: 1,412 Member
    low but to me, logic suggests eating more will simply reverse the weight loss.

    Please, don't use this so called 'logic' for any future choices in life... Read some articles or something please
  • AlwaysInMotion
    AlwaysInMotion Posts: 409 Member
    low but to me, logic suggests eating more will simply reverse the weight loss.

    Please, don't use this so called 'logic' for any future choices in life... Read some articles or something please

    How 'bout this one, Tyronne? I think the OP will get the most from this MFP gem.
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
  • cafeaulait7
    cafeaulait7 Posts: 2,459 Member
    For the fat in things like entrees made with butter, a trick I use to make it healthy is to go half olive oil, half butter. As long as the 'good fats' are the same or more than the 'bad fats' your ratio is still fine :) Or you can do it in different meals, too. Just keep the ratio in mind (imho).
  • christa279
    christa279 Posts: 222 Member
    I agree with that! I am doing pretty well during exercises with my limited diet!
    Admittedly I keep getting blackouts when I stand up!!

    If you are having blackouts then you definitely need to be eating more! That is your body telling you that it isn't doing okay with that little amount of calories. You are barely getting enough to function if you did nothing at all.
  • Ajruk
    Ajruk Posts: 18
    People I really am not a troll. In fact I cannot think of anything more pointless than wasting people's time who are trying to help.
    I have absolutely taken your advice and I will update you on where my weight and physique go from here!
    Porridge and honey for breakfast! Looking forward to it!
    What's the latest people eat? I've heard you don't eat after 5pm?? Wrong again?!!
  • christa279
    christa279 Posts: 222 Member
    I don't really think it matters what times you eat.
  • nomeejerome
    nomeejerome Posts: 2,616 Member
    People I really am not a troll. In fact I cannot think of anything more pointless than wasting people's time who are trying to help.
    I have absolutely taken your advice and I will update you on where my weight and physique go from here!
    Porridge and honey for breakfast! Looking forward to it!
    What's the latest people eat? I've heard you don't eat after 5pm?? Wrong again?!!

    Meal timing is personal preference.

    eta: OP read the link above and all of the links in it.
  • AlwaysInMotion
    AlwaysInMotion Posts: 409 Member
    People I really am not a troll. In fact I cannot think of anything more pointless than wasting people's time who are trying to help.
    I have absolutely taken your advice and I will update you on where my weight and physique go from here!
    Porridge and honey for breakfast! Looking forward to it!
    What's the latest people eat? I've heard you don't eat after 5pm?? Wrong again?!!

    No, you are not a troll. Sometimes people jump in and post comments without reading the whole thread first. You'll need to take comments with a grain of salt. MFP is just like the real world - there are good and bad people. You get to choose who you listen to and who to ignore.

    Not to sound repetitive, but please read this post below (see link). I think it will help you a lot. And good luck.
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
  • Ajruk
    Ajruk Posts: 18
    Okay had ready Brek with honey! Just had. Omelette with extra egg whites ( as per the insanity diet)
    What I can't find out is whether I'm allowed ketchup.. I am a ketchup fiend and love the stuff .. Omelette takes bland to me without it.. Any ideas please people!
  • beattie1
    beattie1 Posts: 1,012 Member
    Of course you're allowed ketchup if you want it! Just count it into your calories - it doesn't come to much anyway. :)
    You can have anything you want as long as it fits into your calorie budget and fits the other macros you want to watch. Life is full of choices, you just need to make reasonable ones most of the time.

    I'm glad you decided to eat more - 900 calories isn't enough for anyone.
  • Ajruk
    Ajruk Posts: 18
    Appreciate that advice. Yeah 900 wasn't much! I'm just hoping the weight doesn't come back again!
  • AlwaysInMotion
    AlwaysInMotion Posts: 409 Member
    Appreciate that advice. Yeah 900 wasn't much! I'm just hoping the weight doesn't come back again!

    Thankfully all the weight won't just magically appear overnight. You'll know if the scale is creeping the wrong way - then you just adjust your intake down a little or workout a little more to compensate!