WEIGHT LOSS SURGERY

Good Morning MFP Peeps!

I’m sure we all know someone who’s had either Gastric Bypass, Lap band or the Gastric Sleeve surgery. With that being said:

What is your take on weight loss surgery??

Have you ever considered having weight loss surgery??

Did you ever have the surgery yourself??
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  • 4legsRbetterthan2
    4legsRbetterthan2 Posts: 19,589 MFP Moderator
    It is not necessary for weight loss unless it is a last resort to lose fast b/c of other health problems. I have never considered it for myself but I do not think I have ever been to a qualifying weight either. My take in weight loss surgery is there is always a chance you will not survive any surgery, anesthesia itself is dangerous, so why take that chance with something that you can fix another way.
  • 1shauna1
    1shauna1 Posts: 993 Member
    I have had the lap band for 3.5 years. It's just a tool like anything else; I still have to do the work. It's not quite what I expected, but I have lost and kept off 44 pounds. Still trying for more though. I have thought about having it removed, but I'm worried I'll gain everything back (it definitely helps with portion control). Cost is an issue too (not covered by insurance).
  • I had gastric bypass 10 years ago and kept off 100lbs for 9 years. A medical mistake took place last year that caused an explosion of the recent 30lbs.
    I think it's a great option but something you definitely need to have all your facts on. It worked very well for me and I've loved the results. I have had friends have the surgery and they destroyed themselves. Either with excessive eating or excessive weight loss.
    Like the previous writer, it's a tool. I had a great doctor and a he offers a great support team after the surgery and I still see him 10years later.
    Good luck with it!
    Jenn
  • _Resolve_
    _Resolve_ Posts: 735 Member
    nope, unless death is imminent I believe people should earn it. I was 375 pounds and it hurt to walk, it hurt to tie my shoes and here I am a year later down 156 pounds. If you want it bad enough and are willing to put the work in you can do it without being carved open.
  • mizzfitnesss
    mizzfitnesss Posts: 53 Member
    Thanks Jshipley79, 1shauna1 and 4legsRbetterT. for you input.. A friend of mine had it done last year.. she went 215-135. It looks good on her but 135 would not like good on me at all the lowest I can go is 160... I though about it for minute because now she seems so much more. happy.... But after her told me all the trouble she when through.. The jury is still out on my having it..
  • Zomb1eMummy
    Zomb1eMummy Posts: 104 Member
    There are 2 things I don't like about the surgery.

    1) You lose the weight too quickly.
    2) You lose the weight, and then you gain it all back.

    I have had 4 family members do the surgery and a few friends and all of them fit into one of those catoegories.
  • mizzfitnesss
    mizzfitnesss Posts: 53 Member
    nope, unless death is imminent I believe people should earn it. I was 375 pounds and it hurt to walk, it hurt to tie my shoes and here I am a year later down 156 pounds. If you want it bad enough and are willing to put the work in you can do it without being carved open.

    Thanks dpearson2012... Kudos to your success!!
  • mizzfitnesss
    mizzfitnesss Posts: 53 Member
    There are 2 things I don't like about the surgery.

    1) You lose the weight too quickly.
    2) You lose the weight, and then you gain it all back.

    I have had 4 family members do the surgery and a few friends and all of them fit into one of those catoegories.

    Thanks Zomb1emummy, I think the life style change is a more of a mine thing .... That may just be my new motto.. Mine of matter...thanks again
  • MichkaMeShell
    MichkaMeShell Posts: 34 Member
    I was on my way for the gastric sleeve. Just days away from setting a surgery date. Last minute, my insurance denied my coverage because I had lost too much weight in the three months leading up to the procedure. It was a blessing. I proved to myself that I didn't need the surgery, just a plethora of education on food in today's America.

    I feel as if some people just need it. Others, such as myself, just needed education.
  • sunnshhiine
    sunnshhiine Posts: 727 Member
    Good Morning MFP Peeps!

    I’m sure we all know someone who’s had either Gastric Bypass, Lap band or the Gastric Sleeve surgery. With that being said:

    What is your take on weight loss surgery??

    Have you ever considered having weight loss surgery??

    Did you ever have the surgery yourself??

    Didn't Jared the Subway guy die from complications from his weight-loss surgery...?

    calories in, calories out -- at a deficit.
  • shaynepoole
    shaynepoole Posts: 493 Member
    I had medical conditions that made me ineligible for the surgery. If it was an option for me, I would have probably done it - but I would have probably been one of those people who ended up gaining some of the weight back

    Doing it on my own has ended up being a better decision for me

    Edited: Jared the subway guy is still alive and supposedly did not have surgery
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  • mizzfitnesss
    mizzfitnesss Posts: 53 Member
    Thanks MichkaMeShell, sunnshhiine, shaynepoole, and billieljaime for sharing your storys and opinions …
  • seltzermint555
    seltzermint555 Posts: 10,740 Member
    I've never had this done and have never seriously considered it -- although I admit that when I was at my heaviest (307 lb as a 5'8" 32 yr old woman) I used to think of it as an "in the future" last resort possibility. And it scared me to think of it.

    Working in a social service agency for several years, I met at least 40-50 people (most of them in their middle age or even younger) who were permanently disabled due to problems & complications with gastric bypass. Some of them had feeding tubes and/or drainage tubes for the rest of their lives.

    My former mother-in-law was dangerously obese (5' tall and around 400 lb or more) and she only lost like 100 lb after gastric bypass, and then slowly regained it.

    On a less serious note, I knew a 20-something woman with long & impossibly beautiful curly red hair who was only slightly overweight and had the surgery against medical advice (found a quack in another state & paid cash for the procedure) and lost all of her hair and it grew back very thin and sort of a brownish beige-colored. A decade later, she's morbidly obese. Even right after the surgery she was maybe 20 lb thinner than before the surgery.

    Because of all this it's hard to see the positive side of it. I KNOW there's a huge positive for many people and I've mostly seen the negative sides...but I'm unlikely to ever consider it, especially since I've been able to get closer to a healthy weight with MFP and am still going. To each their own, though!!
  • mizzfitnesss
    mizzfitnesss Posts: 53 Member
    I've never had this done and have never seriously considered it -- although I admit that when I was at my heaviest (307 lb as a 5'8" 32 yr old woman) I used to think of it as an "in the future" last resort possibility. And it scared me to think of it.

    Working in a social service agency for several years, I met at least 40-50 people (most of them in their middle age or even younger) who were permanently disabled due to problems & complications with gastric bypass. Some of them had feeding tubes and/or drainage tubes for the rest of their lives.

    My former mother-in-law was dangerously obese (5' tall and around 400 lb or more) and she only lost like 100 lb after gastric bypass, and then slowly regained it.

    Thanks for sharing seltzermint!!

    On a less serious note, I knew a 20-something woman with long & impossibly beautiful curly red hair who was only slightly overweight and had the surgery against medical advice (found a quack in another state & paid cash for the procedure) and lost all of her hair and it grew back very thin and sort of a brownish beige-colored. A decade later, she's morbidly obese. Even right after the surgery she was maybe 20 lb thinner than before the surgery.

    Because of all this it's hard to see the positive side of it. I KNOW there's a huge positive for many people and I've mostly seen the negative sides...but I'm unlikely to ever consider it, especially since I've been able to get closer to a healthy weight with MFP and am still going. To each their own, though!!
  • flumi_f
    flumi_f Posts: 1,888 Member
    I considered it for a short moment, when I was at my highest 14yrs ago and then lost 21kg on my own. After 10 yrs I was up 10kg again and now I have lost another 25kg (10old ones+15new ones) with out surgery.

    Surgery is a tool, that I think should be a last resort. What I have also seen with the people I know, that have done it, is that after about 2 years they start gaining again. I see several reasons for that:

    1) not enough support and education for the medical team, so they don't really change their ways longterm (exercise, healthier relationship to food, etc.)
    2) about two years after the surgery our magical bodies abosorb more nutrients and cals from the food again . Thus if no adjustments are made to their way of life, they will gain again.

    I was totally oblivious to that second point, until I read a post on mfp from a lady, that had surgery and a good medical team to support her.

    Surgery can only be successful if the person, who has it changes there way of life. But it is a huge change forever. Those that lose weight without surgery and go back to their old ways...guess what...they gain too.

    So no matter how you lose your weight, you have to address your issues in the process...myself included.
  • mizzfitnesss
    mizzfitnesss Posts: 53 Member
    Thanks for sharing flumi_f!!
  • My thought is that people should seriously consider the reasons behind why they are doing it. Is it it because of a medical condition (other than just having the weight on you), is it a short cut, or is it because you think it will magically improve your life (don't laugh some people think that way)? As a previous poster said, do your research (beyond your friends), look up the risks of surgery, look up a video if you can find it, and ask your doctor plenty of questions.

    My friend tried to have gastric bypass surgery five years ago and they told her if she could lose 20lbs first she 'may' be a candidate. She couldn't do it (or wouldn't?). She finally was approved two years ago and has lots of loose skin left over. She is very unhappy with how she looks (gaunt in the face, loose skin on arms, tummy, and around her knees). She said it was super painful and is afraid to get the excess skin removed. But others have had positive experiences, so it's a toss up. I believe it is something that should be considered as a last resort.
  • mizzfitnesss
    mizzfitnesss Posts: 53 Member
    Thanks 40andFindingF!!!
  • piratesluver
    piratesluver Posts: 105 Member
    I had medical conditions that made me ineligible for the surgery. If it was an option for me, I would have probably done it - but I would have probably been one of those people who ended up gaining some of the weight back

    Doing it on my own has ended up being a better decision for me

    Edited: Jared the subway guy is still alive and supposedly did not have surgery

    Yes he is still alive, he lost all that weight due to a medical reason, AND he hit on a friend of mine at a bar in Canada, and screamed "Don't you know who I am?!?!" when she turned him down.
  • mizzfitnesss
    mizzfitnesss Posts: 53 Member
    Thanks piratesluver!:laugh:
  • seltzermint555
    seltzermint555 Posts: 10,740 Member
    mizzfitnesss did you mean to comment on my response? I see it's quoted but no comment! Thanks :-)
  • Yes he is still alive, he lost all that weight due to a medical reason, AND he hit on a friend of mine at a bar in Canada, and screamed "Don't you know who I am?!?!" when she turned him down.
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    Why do people say that? It's so presumptuous to assume everyone knows or cares who you are. lol
  • Sueb1420
    Sueb1420 Posts: 19 Member
    My friend had gastric bypass surgery, she died within a week due to complications. This left two very young little girls with no mother. Scared me enough I got myself under control. I lost 74 lbs with exercise and proper eating. Gained 26 lbs back setting in hospitals for several years and the stress of my parents being ill but have work most of it back off.
  • butterfli7o
    butterfli7o Posts: 1,319 Member
    A friend's husband had it a few years back, and he lost a lot of weight very fast. Here it is several years later, and he's gained a lot of it back. What a shame and waste of money. :frown:

    My friend on the other hand, decided she wanted to lose weight through diet and exercise. She's lost a TON of weight and runs all the time now. She's going to be in this year's Boston Marathon. I think her way was not only more successful but cheaper!
  • SibylDiane
    SibylDiane Posts: 177 Member
    I had the gastric sleeve surgery this past June. I had to do a medically supervised weight loss program before my surgery. All told I am down over 150 lbs, with probably about 40 lbs left to go. So far I think it's the best decision I've ever made. I am not suffering from nutritional deficiencies (yes I have extensive lab work done every few months to make sure). I receive excellent follow-up care from my surgeon and his team, including a dietician and exercise physiologist. I've had a very easy recovery, no problems with nausea, throwing up, any of the horror stories that people like to spread about wls.
    It's definitely not for everyone. As the saying goes, they operate on your stomach, not your brain. If you aren't willing to commit to serious diet and lifestyle changes after surgery, it's not a good choice for you. The surgery (sleeve in my case) just gives you the tool you need to be effective in sticking with that commitment.
    For those who say it doesn't have a good success rate and want to tell stories about their cousin's niece's hairdresser who gained all her weight back or has to have a feeding tube or whatever -- cite me some actual studies that prove it's not as successful as the "old fashioned" way. Not just anecdotal stories about random people. Here's a story that references just the most recent study to say that weight loss surgery is far more effective than trying to do it "on your own::
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-22/weight-loss-surgery-fights-obesity-better-than-diet-or-exercise.html
    For anyone who says it is cheating - I wasn't aware there are rules about how to get healthy. Again, citation please :laugh:
    I would never advocate that anyone have this or any other weight loss surgery, just because the decision is such an intensely personal one. But for anyone who might be considering it, look for facts -- pro and con -- while deciding. Not stories from internet randoms (including me, I'm an internet random too -- go do some actual research!).
  • scubasuenc
    scubasuenc Posts: 626 Member
    I had the surgery 15 years ago and lost about 75 lbs. I gained all but 15 of it back over the intervening years. I know others who also gained back most of what they lost.

    I was lucky and have had very few side effects, but I have had them. I have met others over the years who have had similar experiences to mine.

    My doctor actually suggested I consider revision surgery as the field of bariatric surgery has changed a lot over the years. I decided I wanted to try losing weight loss the 'old fashioned' way first. She recommended MFP and I have since lost 45 lbs in less than 4 months. I have tried to 're-engage' my pouch to help with portion control and committed myself to following the post-surgery rules I have slid on in the past.

    Surgery is a tool to help you manage portion control. However with poor diet you can defeat the tool. With or without surgery the only way to lose weight is to ensure you have a calorie deficit -- eat less and exercise more.
  • luckydays27
    luckydays27 Posts: 552 Member
    My mom and sister had the Lap Band procedure.

    My sister lost 100 lbs and did well. She still struggles though and has had complications from the procedure. Food got lodged and she could not cough it out. Ended up having to have hernia surgery to repair the damage. TWICE. Instead of resorting to getting the band filled and loosened, she has opted to exercise to help control the weight and she is doing great, Plus she likes the way her body looks now instead of just from the weight loss. She is getting leaner and more fit because of the exercise she is doing as well as the calorie intake control.

    My mother on the other hand lost 100 lbs and did not learn a darn thing. She has kept the weight off but only because she eats like crap and her body rejects it so she has the dumping effect occur quite frequently. I refuse to go out to eat with her now because of this. Her hair is painfully thin and she is more malnourished than ever before. On the days that she does better her food intake consists of Panera French Onion soup and chocolate chip cookies. It it were not for the dumping effect on her body, she would be heavier than when she started.

    To me, I never considered it. 1. I was never big enough to be a candidate and 2. I knew I could do it on my own with counting calories and going to the gym. I had done it before and could do it again as soon as I was ready.

    I got ready and I am down 68 pounds. I eat like a maniac as around 1900 cals a day and still lose weight because I burn around 2400 a day. I still eat all the stuff I love and have no regrets.
  • tj1376
    tj1376 Posts: 1,402 Member
    I had the gastric sleeve last year and I can say it was the BEST decision I ever made - except maybe my divorce, its a toss up really.

    If you have a good weight loss center they don't just cut out your stomach and send you on your way. They have you see a therapist to determine if your mentally committed to the changes you have to make. They have you see a nutritionist who tells you all the ways your thought process on food and how you eat has to change. They have you see an exercise expert who tells you all the ways your body will change because of the surgery and the exercises that will help you the most. They have you go to support groups and remind you over and over and over again that the surgery is a tool, like weights and treadmills and food scales. It only works if you keep trying to make it work.

    Yes people have it, lose weight and then gain it all back. Its because they stop trying. They stop asking their support system for help. They don't look for help from others who have gone thru the surgery, they just listen to people who aren't in the same situation and assume they know best.

    If you haven't had the surgery, you shouldn't judge people who have. You have no idea how hard we all have to work still and FOREVER!!! If you think its cheating or the easy way you have a very narrow minded perspective and you should be better informed. You can exercise and lose weight and slack off and have cheat days/weeks. We don't have those options if we want to be successful. People who do everything their WL Team tells them to do have to carefully monitor food and water and vitamins and exercise - EVERYDAY!! There is no cheating and the consequences for slacking off and not monitoring these things can land us in the hospital. But we are people who know that this possibility is worth it for us to be healthy.

    Stop telling people about the horror stories you have heard and be supportive. No two people lose weight the same way on the same diet and exercise program, if they did MFP wouldn't be full of people saying they are quitting because after 3 weeks they don't see results.
  • 1shauna1
    1shauna1 Posts: 993 Member
    I don't consider it to be an "easy fix". That is the misconception. It is a tool, like a Fitbit, a food scale or any other. At the end of the day it's still up to me to watch what I put in my mouth and eat healthily. This just really helps with portion control which I need. But what I have been through in the last 3.5 years, hasn't been easy. I still struggle daily. If you don't need the help, then kudos to you, you are stronger than me. I just read the poster above me, and I agree with you, girl!