Bulking carb question

millaxoxo
millaxoxo Posts: 30
in Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
So I'm new to this please bare with me. So my current intake is 2090 calories ,(female) 40% carbs 30% protein 30% fats which comes out to around 150g protein a day, 68 fat and around 200 carbs. I hit my protein an fats no problem but having trouble with carbs. I do know about iifym and I don't mind eating a Poptart or something to get my carbs/cals up but I am afraid of packing on fat since Carbs get turned into fat,, and energy obviously and help muscle building but let's say it's the end of the day, and I have 70g of carbs leftover. Do I really need to eat that to build Muscle? (Minus right after lifting) Or can I fill in those calories left over with more fats and protein? And what about carbs on non lifting days, do you still eat the same amount and why?

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  • WhiteRabbit1313
    WhiteRabbit1313 Posts: 1,091 Member
    So I'm new to this please bare with me. So my current intake is 2090 calories ,(female) 40% carbs 30% protein 30% fats which comes out to around 150g protein a day, 68 fat and around 200 carbs. I hit my protein an fats no problem but having trouble with carbs. I do know about iifym and I don't mind eating a Poptart or something to get my carbs/cals up but I am afraid of packing on fat since Carbs get turned into fat,, and energy obviously and help muscle building but let's say it's the end of the day, and I have 70g of carbs leftover. Do I really need to eat that to build Muscle? (Minus right after lifting) Or can I fill in those calories left over with more fats and protein? And what about carbs on non lifting days, do you still eat the same amount and why?

    O-tay...

    Surplus CALORIES (not carbs) get turned into fat. If you're bulking, you will likely gain fat with that new muscle. Since I'm not 100% sure on the rest, because I'm new to lifting and haven't bulked, I'll leave the rest to someone who has BTDT.

    Check out the Eat, Train, Progress group, too. Plenty of stickies there to answer many of your questions.

    Good luck!
  • rickyll
    rickyll Posts: 188 Member
    if it's the end of the day and you got some carbs leftover, feel free to replace them with protein. All three macros are sources of energy for your body, carbs are just the preferred source for your body since they are easier to break down and thus use. BUT, if you have leftover carbs, I wouldnt bother trying to fill them in. I also wouldn't replace them with fats if you're already at your limit.

    As for non workout days, it's all up to you. Like I said, carbs are almost solely for energy...do you need more easily accessible energy? Then eat carbs, if not, then there's no point. Just get your energy from proteins and fats (but not too much fats)
  • trojan_bb
    trojan_bb Posts: 699 Member
    Eat the carbs. Eat extra fat. Doesn't matter much. Just get a surplus of calories. If you start gaining fat, reduce the calories. If you stop gaining weight, increase the carbs. Rinse, repeat for the rest of your bulking career. That's all the advice anyone can give, it all comes down to you gaining weight or not at X number of calories.
  • waldo56
    waldo56 Posts: 1,861 Member
    True story - Pretty much 100% of your body fat entered your body as dietary fat.

    De Novo Lipogenesis, the process of converting carbs (or protein) into fat is an irrelevant process in humans, and this is quite well proven.

    Obviously the body is complex, the way it modulates the fuel burn mixture means that essentially excess calories are stored as fat, but those excess calories that are stored are done so in the most efficient way possible, sourced from dietary fat.

    So while the whole eat low fat to not be fat is a gross oversimplification that really is not helpful at all because overall energy intake matters, the idea that carbs turn into fat is total BS, you should stop taking diet advice from fiction writers like Gary Taubes.
  • auntiebabs
    auntiebabs Posts: 1,754 Member
    All of your foods fall into 1 or more of 3 macro nutrient categories
    FATS • CARBS • PROTEINS ... I personally think it's unwise to severely restrict any one of these categories.
    Instead of eliminating or limiting quantity focus on the quality...

    HAPPY FATS (Plant and fish based)
    ---Good for brain, function, nerve function, fighting depression, fight diabetes

    COMPLEX CARBS (un or minimally processed)
    ---Good way to get your fiber

    LEAN PROTEINS
    ---Builds muscle
  • IBeOnIt
    IBeOnIt Posts: 1 Member
    If you don't want to store fat, don't eat so much fat. Where people think that carbohydrates get you fat is insane. Think of it this way. Fats are more calorie dense than Carbs 9 to 4 per gram. Wouldn't it be wise to cut down on the fat's so you can get more energy through carbs? Check out what I eat on a daily basis. Ive been doing this for almost a year and my only physical activity is running three times a week. Over 70% of my calories come from carbs and I have been a steady 145 lbs. If you want to bulk your going to gain fat period. The only other weight you can gain is muscle mass and it is way harder to do that than it is to put on fat. Eat clean natural foods and you won't have a weight problem. Anything that's processed is suspect and moderation is necessary.
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    I personally like Kirklands Ancient Grains.
    Carbs so complex you'll need a shrink.
  • justinproulx1
    justinproulx1 Posts: 335
    +1
  • grantdumas7
    grantdumas7 Posts: 802 Member
    Stop worrying about ratios. At the end of the day, like a few people said, calories are the important thing. Here is a good video on ratios and why they suck.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il1ka_jIjOM

    Carbs DO NOT turn into bodyfat
    Protein DOES NOT turn into bodyfat
    FATS DO NOT Turn into bodyfat

    so eat more carbs.


    Do not cut calories that much on non-lifting/workout days; maybe cut your calories by 150-200. Your body is still repairing itself the day after the workout and protein synthesis is still happening up to 36 hrs after a workout.
  • millaxoxo
    millaxoxo Posts: 30
    Okay thanks you guys, I just have heard so many different things, about carb cycling and so on so it's a bit confusing. I know it is calories in vs out for the most part but initially thought that insulin has to do with fat storage?
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Okay thanks you guys, I just have heard so many different things, about carb cycling and so on so it's a bit confusing. I know it is calories in vs out for the most part but initially thought that insulin has to do with fat storage?


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