Can someone help me please? lower cals or lower carbs

wyllden
wyllden Posts: 48 Member
Hi,

I'm newish and been trying to stick to a low carb diet under 50g per day, i'm finding it really difficult to stick to that and always end up going over, but usually have calories left over.

I sit better to do lower carb in my situation? or just lower fat and calorie count? i'm confused as i keep reading various information and it is getting a bit mindboggling.

I am 31, 5"5 and weigh 201.8lbs so classed as obese. I want to lose about 58lbs.

Someone please help me decide what will work for me

Thanks in advance
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  • Commander_Keen
    Commander_Keen Posts: 1,179 Member
    Inrease your carbs to 100 and see what happens.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    Lower your calories until you're in a caloric deficit.

    If you lower your carbs (or fats or proteins) without lowering your calories, you won't lose weight. There is nothing magical about low-carb eating.
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  • What i have found has helped is concentrating more on getting enough protein. Get some good carbs in the morning such as oatmeal, then stick to protein, fruits and veggies for the rest of the day. I was able to lose alot of weight very fast with this diet, along with exercising regularly. Hopefully that helps.
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    What is the reason for going low carb?

    If you are just looking to lose weight and have no other underlying heath issues, all you have to do is eat less calories than what it takes to maintain your current weight.

    That said if you do lower any one macro, instead of all three as a % of total calories, then carbs would be the better to do, as fat and protein are essential, where carbs, though do help performance, are not required the way the others are.
  • nwingr
    nwingr Posts: 43 Member
    Lower your calories until you're in a caloric deficit.
    ^This. You can find your calorie requirements with one of the calorie calculators. MFP has one, I think it comes up when you set goals.
  • MamaC977
    MamaC977 Posts: 6 Member
    I have always heard that it is total calories in verses total calories expended. I try to maintain a balance of carbs/protein/fats. Since I am diabetic, but LOVE carbs that works best for me. If I try to really limit my carbs I get frustrated and end up binge eating.
  • smmy744
    smmy744 Posts: 1 Member
    Hi, I have tried everything low carb, ww, sw, and to be honest MFP is much easier if you log honestly and review what you are having nutrition wise. I eat lots of things like cheese and basically rubbish snacks. What I suggest is working out your Basic Metabolic Rate and then this will give you your TDEE.. this will help you see what your body needs to function (BMR )

    I am new as well and am 5"10 and weigh 206llbs so have a bit to lose... I am having 1598 calories a day and seeing how this works out for me.. try some sites that will help you calculate... I think that this will work better for you...counting calories is easy on here and you get a break down of where most of them go... Add me if you want to discuss or any more tips... I am not qualified but look up loads on the net...willing to help you through I have lost 2lbs so far but only just restarted....


    Good luck
    Sammy
  • I'm getting the most results keeping carbs under 20-30g/day and eating more fats and proteins. At the same time, I did lower my calorie intake a bit, as on the low carb diet I am not finding myself to be as hungry all the time. Went from 182 to 174 in about 2 1/2 weeks. Mostly water at that stage, but I am now starting to lose fat too (albeit at a slower rate which is expected).
  • Cals in>Cals out is what works. As far as macro brake down the only one that works is the one you can stick with for the long haul.
  • kaleysmom71
    kaleysmom71 Posts: 4 Member
    Hey there,
    My best advice for you, is don't skip carbs, but skip simple carbs. Stick to complex carbs, red potatoes, whole grains, ONLY whole wheat breads. And only eat them up until lunch time. Read up on clean eating, and stay away from processed foods. I'm 34, and I was up at 152, I lost 7 pounds in my first week of eating clean. Don't try to cut out too much at once, otherwise you will just find yourself craving that thing you are cutting out. I started working out and eating clean in August and have lost 17 pounds. The clean diet will be the first step to dropping the weight. Try it for one week, and I promise you will see results. Eat a large breakfast, plenty of protein, ex: hard boiled egg, a yogurt (greek) and whole wheat toast, or oatmeal. (I hate oatmeal, so I eat whole wheat toast) My personal trainer told me your 1st meal of the day should be your biggest, then lunch smaller and a very little for dinner, you should wake up hungry ready to fuel your body. But don't skip carbs except for at dinner, ie protein and veggies. Try to eat clean snacks throughout the day, unsalted nuts, veggies, hummus. At this point I'm eating 80% clean, but at first it was more like 95% I hope this helps. Don't give up!!
  • KaelaLee88
    KaelaLee88 Posts: 229 Member
    Hi Hun,

    My first response would be that if you're finding it very difficult to stick to this low carb diet, it might not necessarily be for you.

    It is recommended to reduce your carbohydrate intake and as you start to eat cleaner food, this generally becomes easier to do.

    Personally, I love my carbs but have found cutting down easier and healthier for me rather than cutting it out or radically reducing my intake. I've also discovered that you can't abide by every single dietary rule in one go! That was my mistake for years and I got very confused and very overweight trying to do all of the things that people told me would help.

    MyFitnessPal has been and continues to be a bit of a personal revelation for me and my family. All we do now is abide by our daily calorie limit, our nutritional limits (Salt, sugar, fat, etc), try to eat as clean as our budget allows, drink more water, exercise moderately and reduce portions and frequency of eating.

    How you consume your calorie limit is up to you, but we still eat plenty of carbs (they are nutritionally vital after all!) albeit wholemeal varieties which contain necessary fibre and are our personal preference :-)

    Whenever you begin to make any big change, there's always plenty to learn but don't worry. Try to do one thing at a time and when you've mastered that, advance.

    The best of luck to you on your journey!

    Kaela x
  • You're more likely to fail at a low carb diet because you are depriving yourself too much. Also it's nearly impossible to maintain. Once you lose weight you will put it right back on again. The best way is to eat low cal/low fat, good carbs, and exercise. it's a slow and steady process. You can't lose weight overnight and doing the low cal diet and exercise is a way easier routine to maintain. Good luck!
  • Sunbrooke
    Sunbrooke Posts: 632 Member
    I really don't know alot about counting carbs, but I have found that making veggies the majority of my plate with a fairly small portion of carbs from stuff like sweet potatoes, barley, and beans seems to give me more energy without the munches. If you are used to refined sugars and grains, you can expect to have some serious craving when cutting them out. I think it can affect your mood too. Fight craving by keeping around hard boiled eggs, hummas, lots of fresh veggies ready to go, avocado, canned fish, and a well stocked spice rack.
  • If you want to lose weight you need to count both, worked perfectly for me, zero carbs, low calorie diet....
  • mkatram
    mkatram Posts: 1 Member
    It's a case of too much information, isn't it? I am in nearly the same boat, except I am 20 years older than you are. Here is what I have decided to focus on, as I have tried losing in all sorts of ways. You need to be able to stick with whatever you do for the long term. Since you find 50 carbs hard to stick to, go a little higher and make those carbs mostly vegetables. Pick a calorie level that will give you a defict, but not so low that you get frustrated with it. When you keep your carbs low and smart, it is easier to live on fewer calories. For the first month or so, just focus on the calorie number, and find out what your comfortable carb level is. Keep track. At the end of the month, make adjustments and go another month. Just think of the numbers as data that you are collecting. Don't alter the "experiment" before the end of the month. You really have to be patient. Your success will not be a number on the scale, but how well you conducted the experiment and collected the data. Then just keep going. Add exercise with an eye to forming a new habit, not losing weight or gaining strength. So what you do isn't as important as doing something active that you enjoy every day. Establish a new habit of activity. You will feel great about it and that will give you the mental and emotional boost to get through those days when you go off plan or doubt your ability to keep going. In the beginning, the benefits from exercise are mostly mental. Go easy on yourself, but not too easy. Accept that this is going to take a good long while to do it right, and hopefully for the last time.
  • What do you think is causing you to fail at your 50g goal? Are you hungry all the time? Are you having trouble choosing low carb food? Is it the cravings?

    If it's cravings, it will get better.
    If you're hungry, up your fat intake. Fat keeps you sated longer than protein and carbs.
    If you're having trouble eating fewer carbs because you're still trying to eat bread, pasta, potatoes or other grains/starches, you need to cut those out. Get all of your 50g from vegetables (broccoli, spinach, brussel sprouts, asparagus, kale, green beans) and high fibre berries (raspberries, blackberries, strawberries).

    Low carb diets are NOT impossible. Many people find Low-Carb-High-Fat (as opposed to high-protein) actually a little easier than plain old calorie restriction because, again, fat keeps you full.

    Check out this community: http://www.reddit.com/r/keto
    Start with reading the FAQ: http://www.reddit.com/r/keto/wiki/faq

    I'm aiming for 20-25g/day myself, but you can try easing in, starting at 150g/day.

    edit: You DO still need a caloric deficit to lose weight on a low-carb diet. It just has other benefits such as that satiety I mentioned and steadier blood sugars.
  • Do what works best for you? Why did you choose to lower your carbs? For me, I was hungry every 3 hours or so, when I was eating normal diet with carbs. I could snack but thats like putting a band aid to the problem. I try to keep my carbs 60g or lower with lots of veggies, healthy fats and few servings of fruit most of the days. I don't feel hungry or snack as much and I don't count calories but I eat only when I am hungry and don't when I am not. All calories are not equal depending on your hormones and how your body responds to carbs, fats and proteins. You just need to figure out what works for you.
  • lisajsund
    lisajsund Posts: 366 Member
    I aim for 30% carbs or less daily.
    I have MFP set to active, to lose 0.5 lb/week and usually eat most of my exercise calories back.
    MFP gave me a calorie goal of 2210 with these settings.
    In 4 weeks, I have lost 4 pounds. MFP said I should've only lost 2.
    I also aim for 30% protein and 40% fat.
    While I get hungry from time to time, I find it very livable.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Hey there,
    My best advice for you, is don't skip carbs, but skip simple carbs. Stick to complex carbs, red potatoes, whole grains, ONLY whole wheat breads. And only eat them up until lunch time. Read up on clean eating, and stay away from processed foods. I'm 34, and I was up at 152, I lost 7 pounds in my first week of eating clean. Don't try to cut out too much at once, otherwise you will just find yourself craving that thing you are cutting out. I started working out and eating clean in August and have lost 17 pounds. The clean diet will be the first step to dropping the weight. Try it for one week, and I promise you will see results. Eat a large breakfast, plenty of protein, ex: hard boiled egg, a yogurt (greek) and whole wheat toast, or oatmeal. (I hate oatmeal, so I eat whole wheat toast) My personal trainer told me your 1st meal of the day should be your biggest, then lunch smaller and a very little for dinner, you should wake up hungry ready to fuel your body. But don't skip carbs except for at dinner, ie protein and veggies. Try to eat clean snacks throughout the day, unsalted nuts, veggies, hummus. At this point I'm eating 80% clean, but at first it was more like 95% I hope this helps. Don't give up!!

    Wat? Clean eating has nothing to do with weight loss
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    Set MFP to lose 1 pound a week. Eat the amount of calories it says to eat (plus more for exercise if and when you exercise).
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Hi,

    I'm newish and been trying to stick to a low carb diet under 50g per day, i'm finding it really difficult to stick to that and always end up going over, but usually have calories left over.

    I sit better to do lower carb in my situation? or just lower fat and calorie count? i'm confused as i keep reading various information and it is getting a bit mindboggling.

    I am 31, 5"5 and weigh 201.8lbs so classed as obese. I want to lose about 58lbs.

    Someone please help me decide what will work for me

    Thanks in advance

    I will throw in my $.02
    Based on what you provided and assuming 3 days of exercise a week....
    I get about 1600 - 1630 for BMR
    2200 - 2250 for TDEE
    If weight loss is the goal, I would shoot for about 1700 - 1800 calories a day.
    Your fat intake should be at minimum 0.4 gr / lb of body weight....
    So in your case
    70 - 80 gr / day for fat == 630 - 720 calories
    160 - 200 gr of protein / day == 640 - 800 calories
    Carbs can be what ever you like.....but around 66 gr / day == 264 calories.

    The important thing is to make sure that you are burning more calories than you are eating.

    So be sure you track and log your foods.
    Also weigh and measure so you can make sure you are accurate.
  • ladymiseryali
    ladymiseryali Posts: 2,555 Member
    You do need a calorie defecit to lose weight, but if you want to go the low-carb route, you need to supplement the carbs for fat. Here's a good link that can help you, if you want to continue on that path.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aiHSPoto_YqsNTDvL-g60nytMnyH-CJcCbiAx1IEUYM/mobilebasic?pli=1

    I'm a low-carber myself. I keep my net carbs under 30 and in many cases, under 25. I've been doing it since July, so now it's like second nature.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    calorie deficit is what creates weight loss..

    Low carb, high carb, medium carb makes no difference, as long as you are in a deficit you will lose weight.

    Figure out a 500 calories per day deficit and eat to this number...or you can use the MFP method and do it that way ...
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Hey there,
    My best advice for you, is don't skip carbs, but skip simple carbs. Stick to complex carbs, red potatoes, whole grains, ONLY whole wheat breads. And only eat them up until lunch time. Read up on clean eating, and stay away from processed foods. I'm 34, and I was up at 152, I lost 7 pounds in my first week of eating clean. Don't try to cut out too much at once, otherwise you will just find yourself craving that thing you are cutting out. I started working out and eating clean in August and have lost 17 pounds. The clean diet will be the first step to dropping the weight. Try it for one week, and I promise you will see results. Eat a large breakfast, plenty of protein, ex: hard boiled egg, a yogurt (greek) and whole wheat toast, or oatmeal. (I hate oatmeal, so I eat whole wheat toast) My personal trainer told me your 1st meal of the day should be your biggest, then lunch smaller and a very little for dinner, you should wake up hungry ready to fuel your body. But don't skip carbs except for at dinner, ie protein and veggies. Try to eat clean snacks throughout the day, unsalted nuts, veggies, hummus. At this point I'm eating 80% clean, but at first it was more like 95% I hope this helps. Don't give up!!

    sigh, its the calorie deficit that you created by eating clean that dropped the weight..

    eating clean, non processed, and/or complex vs noncomplex carbs has nothing to do with it...
  • wyllden
    wyllden Posts: 48 Member
    Thanks for all your responses, it does help, to a point i was quite enjoying the low carb as i was trying out other things for breakfast and having a bigger breakfast than i normally would - stuffed mushrooms, cheese and bacon, eggs in various forms but i'm getting a bit bored of that now and I'm missing porridge and cereal.

    I usually do my food log in the morning based on what i think i'll have that day then tweak it and make decisions based on what the carbs/calories come out

    but for example: was just putting down fruit and cream - trying to decide which cream to have - double cream-high fat, lower in carbs, or devon cream, higher carbs but alot less in calories - this was the final addition to my confusion as I just didn't know whether what i was doing was right or not.

    My calorie goal is set at 1400 at the moment, i've been exercising most days burning off typically 250 calories and so far had atleast 300 calories left at the end of the day most days. So is my deficit 300? or is it the figure i get when i deduct my food intake from my RMR (don't know much about this but done a calcualtion on a site where it saud 2530???)

    I decided to do low carb as i read somewhere if you keep carb intake under 50g then your body goes into ketosis and you lose weight faster - also read it's best if you are in obese category.

    Most of my carbs are coming from veg, fruit, the odd snack (I haven't been having bread or rice or pasta - just a couple of slip ups where i've had a couple of roast potatoes, a tablespoon of cooked rice - far less than i used to have) The problem i have is that when i'm sorting out my food log for the day i find myself having to compromise even on fruit and veg to try and stay low on carbs.

    sorry for waffling on, i'm tempted to switch to just low calorie but thought that by doing low calorie and keeping carbs under 50g i would see results faster.

    For those also doing low carb, especially poster that has been doing it since July - Wow, i'm impressed. What sort of things are you eating?

    Thanks again for the replies
  • ladymiseryali
    ladymiseryali Posts: 2,555 Member


    For those also doing low carb, especially poster that has been doing it since July - Wow, i'm impressed. What sort of things are you eating?

    Thanks again for the replies

    I eat a cheesy omelette for breakfast every morning, along with some avocado and bacon. Lunches are either low carb soups I make in bulk, or chicken marinaded in something fatty in a salad, or I'll have rolled up deli meats. I recently made some low carb turkey meatloaf that's decent and I also make low carb chili in bulk. My husband LOVES my chili. I also make a lot of fat bombs, which are low carb candies that are mostly fats.

    You will get a lot of low-carb haters on here though. It's inevitable. FOR ME, I feel way better on low carb. I also FINALLY lost stubborn inches from my body. It could have nothing to do with eating low carb, but it could have everything to do with it. I'm not a scientist, but all I know is that I like eating this way and will probably eat this way for the rest of my life.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member


    My calorie goal is set at 1400 at the moment, i've been exercising most days burning off typically 250 calories and so far had atleast 300 calories left at the end of the day most days. So is my deficit 300? or is it the figure i get when i deduct my food intake from my RMR (don't know much about this but done a calcualtion on a site where it saud 2530???)


    If you allowed MFP to set your calories, then it works like this. It calculates your amount of calories to lose weight NOT including exercise. Then when you do exercise, you need to eat more fuel for that. When you choose "I want to lose X pounds per week" this is what determines how many calories deficit. It subtracts 500 calories per day for 1 pound a week, 1,000 calories per day for 2 pounds per week, etc.

    You are still maintaining the same calorie deficit, even when you eat back exercise calories.

    Example:

    2000 (number of calories you need to maintain not including exercise)
    -1500 (number of calories MFP says to eat to lose 1 pound per week)
    500 (this is your calorie deficit)

    1500 (number of calories you eat)
    -500 (amount you burned in exercise)
    +500 (more food you eat for exercise calories)
    =1500 (this is still a 500 calorie deficit to lose weight)

    editing to add: the numbers above are just examples for ease of explaining, your numbers are different.

    The other calculator you saw where it said 2500, this may have been a TDEE calculator. If so, TDEE means total daily energy expenditure, this is the number of calories where you would not gain or lose any weight, aka "maintenance" calories.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    I decided to do low carb as i read somewhere if you keep carb intake under 50g then your body goes into ketosis and you lose weight faster - also read it's best if you are in obese category.


    Don't know so much if that is the case....or just the fact you are not storing up the water associated w/ carb intake.

    A caloric deficit of any combination will result in the same weight loss.....I can't think of anything I have read that says a certain combination will result in faster weight loss vs. another.

    So just keep in mind that if you do up your carbs, you may see some water weight gain associated w/ the intake of carbs going back up......