Having the "talk" with your child

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  • If she were mine, asking if sex is bad, I would say "sex is something that God designed to be a gift for people who are married to each other. When married people have sex, it is a good thing, and sometimes babies can be born because of it which is also a very good thing. But, it is bad for people who are not married to have sex, because it is like peeking at Christmas presents early. It ruins the gift and turns something that was meant to be good, bad."
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    I'm a biology teacher... (albeit currently working in different jobs).... I've taught this subject to whole classes of giggling year 7 students. (that's the age they teach this in science in the UK) Talking to kids individually is a lot easier than a whole bunch of them, especially when they're teens and pre-teens. So you have that advantage as a parent....

    An important point as a parent..... rather than having "THE TALK" with your child, try to just be honest and open with their questions, just as you would be with any other subject. If they ask "why do you go to work?" you'd tell them that you have to go to work to earn money to buy stuff... you're not going to sit them down and give them a whole lesson in economics and work ethics.... you give them an age appropriate answer, then answer any more questions that come from that.... it should be the same with sex, relationships and all related topics. So they ask "what is sex?" you can just tell them what it is... it's a bit harder to explain, hence books etc with age appropriate diagrams and explanations but just try to treat it like any other question.... too much information in one go will often send kids into information overload... give them a straight forward answer, then answer whatever questions they have.

    (Actually the biggest difficulty in teaching this topic to year 7s is making them realise that they're never going to get an exam question like this:

    Fill in the blanks: The man puts his _________ into the woman's __________.

    They're going to get exam questions about fertilisation in plants, or labelling the male and female reproductive system (not just the most obvious organ), the life cycle of frogs, about pregnancy, placentas and stuff like that, because reproduction is a much much wider topic than sex...) but that's for science teachers to worry about.... as a parent your kids aren't going to be doing any tests in the subject (well I guess they will at school at some point).... so just focus on giving honest answers to your kid's questions and get an age appropriate book to help you out if necessary.

    Honesty and openness is vitally important if you want your kids to come to you for advice about stuff like this when they're older, and that can make a big difference in terms of them understanding the importance of safe sex, not being pressured into it before they're ready, etc.
  • lmhbuss
    lmhbuss Posts: 282 Member
    Wow. My school started sex-ed in the fourth grade. I was 9. Some girls start their periods that early. I may be the odd-duck on this one, but I think age 9/10ish is a very appropriate age to explain the very basics of what the act is, what it leads to (pregnancy), why it's important to wait until a person is (insert your moral narrative here), and especially why it's important to have respect for their bodies/take care of them and not feel bad about telling someone that it isn't ok to touch them in ways that make them uncomfortable. 4th grade girls are typically starting to develop immature/youthful crushes on boys and older boys will sometimes try to take advantage of that. I think that by making sure young girls understand their bodies, we empower them. Having said all that I will now climb down off of my soap box and add that my daughter is only 3, so my theories on what to do have NOT been tested. lol
  • 1pandabear
    1pandabear Posts: 336 Member
    Imhbus your points sound wise. You have a lucky 3 year old.
  • VBnotbitter
    VBnotbitter Posts: 820 Member
    Wow. My school started sex-ed in the fourth grade. I was 9. Some girls start their periods that early. I may be the odd-duck on this one, but I think age 9/10ish is a very appropriate age to explain the very basics of what the act is, what it leads to (pregnancy), why it's important to wait until a person is (insert your moral narrative here), and especially why it's important to have respect for their bodies/take care of them and not feel bad about telling someone that it isn't ok to touch them in ways that make them uncomfortable. 4th grade girls are typically starting to develop immature/youthful crushes on boys and older boys will sometimes try to take advantage of that. I think that by making sure young girls understand their bodies, we empower them. Having said all that I will now climb down off of my soap box and add that my daughter is only 3, so my theories on what to do have NOT been tested. lol

    This is very true. My friend has just completed a Masters in sexual health and she says all the research suggest that the earlier you start discussing this stuff (with age appropriate language etc) the better. In fact she says that children raised in homes with open discussion are less susceptible to abuse because a) they are aware that it is wrong and b) less embarrassed to tell someone which effectively removes two weapons from paedophiles. We have a booklet provided by the West Australian department of health that says the same thing
  • TLwineguzzler
    TLwineguzzler Posts: 289 Member
    My 9 year is a natural history fan and knows far more about the biology of reproduction of various species (inc humans) than I could ever tell him. I've just being drip feeding the ethics side of it for the last few months with good reason it turns out. His best friend has an older teenage brother who has introduced them to porn a hell of a lot earlier than I was expecting.

    There is nothing like the freak out that was going on in my brain the other week when I found him surrounded by lego and watching girl or girl action on his I-pod! Cue the purchase of parental control apps and a ban on electronic devices in his room!

    (If my sister reads this don't tell mum!)

    Have now got to clean brankflakes and milk off my keyboard :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I won't tell mum :heart:
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    Wow. My school started sex-ed in the fourth grade. I was 9. Some girls start their periods that early. I may be the odd-duck on this one, but I think age 9/10ish is a very appropriate age to explain the very basics of what the act is, what it leads to (pregnancy), why it's important to wait until a person is (insert your moral narrative here), and especially why it's important to have respect for their bodies/take care of them and not feel bad about telling someone that it isn't ok to touch them in ways that make them uncomfortable. 4th grade girls are typically starting to develop immature/youthful crushes on boys and older boys will sometimes try to take advantage of that. I think that by making sure young girls understand their bodies, we empower them. Having said all that I will now climb down off of my soap box and add that my daughter is only 3, so my theories on what to do have NOT been tested. lol

    This is very true. My friend has just completed a Masters in sexual health and she says all the research suggest that the earlier you start discussing this stuff (with age appropriate language etc) the better. In fact she says that children raised in homes with open discussion are less susceptible to abuse because a) they are aware that it is wrong and b) less embarrassed to tell someone which effectively removes two weapons from paedophiles. We have a booklet provided by the West Australian department of health that says the same thing

    very important point
  • VBnotbitter
    VBnotbitter Posts: 820 Member
    My 9 year is a natural history fan and knows far more about the biology of reproduction of various species (inc humans) than I could ever tell him. I've just being drip feeding the ethics side of it for the last few months with good reason it turns out. His best friend has an older teenage brother who has introduced them to porn a hell of a lot earlier than I was expecting.

    There is nothing like the freak out that was going on in my brain the other week when I found him surrounded by lego and watching girl or girl action on his I-pod! Cue the purchase of parental control apps and a ban on electronic devices in his room!

    (If my sister reads this don't tell mum!)

    Have now got to clean brankflakes and milk off my keyboard :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I won't tell mum :heart:

    Thank you xxx
  • JazmineYoli
    JazmineYoli Posts: 547 Member
    Agree with Knittnponder about letting the child lead the conversation. I'll share a funny story.

    My son, who was about 9 years old at the time, asked me what gay was. I answered him openly & honestly and was very proud of myself for not freaking out. I thought I handled it beautifully. Then I asked him why he asked. He replied "because I'm learning the Flinstone's theme song on piano, and they say let's have a gay old time and I didn't know what that meant."

    Lesson learned - always ask "why do you ask" first.

    :smile: That is hilarious
  • Dewymorning
    Dewymorning Posts: 762 Member
    You retain a calm facade on the outside while you silently scream and cover your head on the inside. :D

    People will approach it differently of course but the way I've always handled it is to let them lead the conversation a bit. I ask questions to find out how much they already know and how much they're wanting to know at that time. I remember my then seven year old telling me she knew what sex was. After I finished my internal screaming I asked her what she thought it was and in her mind it was "kissing while you're naked". I told her that was part of it but there was more to it than that and how much did she want to know? She thought about it a little bit and told me she thought she was far too young to know more than that but she'd ask me later. :D Phew! She did ask a few years later and we discussed whatever she wanted to know.

    My mum told me that when I was 6 years old I asked "Mummy, what's rape?"
    She freaked out internally, then she asked me why I wanted to know, and it turned out that at school we had been learning about fish.
  • tattygun
    tattygun Posts: 447 Member
    I don't get embarrassed about it, that's one of societies ills. I'm open about it and just tell them as it is. I don't want my kids to feel embarrassed if they have a problem and feel unable to talk to me about it.
  • LeanneHarrington3
    LeanneHarrington3 Posts: 100 Member
    My daughter is 6. She'll be 7 this year. She already knows the basics about pretty much everything. For me it's important to keep kids informed, obviously in an age appropriate fashion. I think lack of information is dangerous. I wouldn't feel awkward or embarrassed if my children asked me anything. I feel this way because that's how my mum was with me. When she had her first period she had no idea what was happening to her, she ran to her mum, my nan, in a panic and was just shouted at for making a mess, and that was it!
  • LooseWheel
    LooseWheel Posts: 211 Member
    I'm a Mum of a Girl 13 and a Boy 11 and also a counsellor who work's with families.

    The best story I've come across is this one..

    5am....A 6 year old girl wakes her mum. "Mummy, mummy, wake up". Mum all delirious and exhausted, forces her eyes open and looks at her little curious 6YO. "What is it sweetie?".

    "Mummy what's Sex?"

    Oh Lordy, lordy. Where does a woman summon all the essential knowledge at 5am for the BIG question. This is it. This is the big question. Do I start with the birds and the bees. Do I use the right words like penis and vagina or do we go for 'wee wee' and 'who ha'. (IE: what ever you want to call those bits). Mum is lying there thinking of the alternative...the 'you can ask Daddy' alternative. She shakes her head, no that wont work. She would have to deal with the trauma from him too! Um, maybe about love, lets start at love and being in a relationship and sometimes a man and woman who love each other so much they start with a hug and then a kiss. Oh heavy subject next, taking clothes off, gosh she's gunna question us as parents if we ever take a shirt off or she walks in while changing! No, too hard. Um, the stalk - Yeah that's an option. Sex results in a Stalk flying in a bringing a baby! Wow, this is hard.

    Oh what the hell man, who asks this stuff at 5am!!!

    So the Mum dealt the question card back to her.

    "So what is it you want to know sweetie?"

    "Mummy, why don't ducks wear pants?"

    WOW. What a potentially traumatic moment that kid could have just landed herself in. The rant of body bits and getting naked and and and.....


    Dang matey, just ask what she wants to know and use the why question. "What is it you want to know sweetie?"

    Good back up plan is to grab a book on 'Puberty for Boys' and 'Puberty for girls'.

    I had that talk with my daughter multiple times, ever the curious child. My son only ever got interested in that kind of 'topic' once. The effect was completely memorable if you ever need a hearty chuckle!!

    cheers
    Louisa.
  • LooseWheel
    LooseWheel Posts: 211 Member

    ETA: I find a little humor with the older kids helps alleviate tension. I recently told my oldest "always remember! Spooning leads to forking!" She about died laughing.


    Bwhahahahaha!
  • zornig
    zornig Posts: 336 Member

    My mum told me that when I was 6 years old I asked "Mummy, what's rape?"
    She freaked out internally, then she asked me why I wanted to know, and it turned out that at school we had been learning about fish.

    Oooph!!!! What a set-up!
  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,932 Member
    My wife just had the talk with our 8 year old.

    It was 2 hours of questions and answers.

    Kids are naturally curious, just realize that she will grow up one day and you want her ready for it.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    I'm a biology teacher... (albeit currently working in different jobs).... I've taught this subject to whole classes of giggling year 7 students. (that's the age they teach this in science in the UK) Talking to kids individually is a lot easier than a whole bunch of them, especially when they're teens and pre-teens. So you have that advantage as a parent....

    An important point as a parent..... rather than having "THE TALK" with your child, try to just be honest and open with their questions, just as you would be with any other subject. If they ask "why do you go to work?" you'd tell them that you have to go to work to earn money to buy stuff... you're not going to sit them down and give them a whole lesson in economics and work ethics.... you give them an age appropriate answer, then answer any more questions that come from that.... it should be the same with sex, relationships and all related topics. So they ask "what is sex?" you can just tell them what it is... it's a bit harder to explain, hence books etc with age appropriate diagrams and explanations but just try to treat it like any other question.... too much information in one go will often send kids into information overload... give them a straight forward answer, then answer whatever questions they have.

    (Actually the biggest difficulty in teaching this topic to year 7s is making them realise that they're never going to get an exam question like this:

    Fill in the blanks: The man puts his _________ into the woman's __________.

    They're going to get exam questions about fertilisation in plants, or labelling the male and female reproductive system (not just the most obvious organ), the life cycle of frogs, about pregnancy, placentas and stuff like that, because reproduction is a much much wider topic than sex...) but that's for science teachers to worry about.... as a parent your kids aren't going to be doing any tests in the subject (well I guess they will at school at some point).... so just focus on giving honest answers to your kid's questions and get an age appropriate book to help you out if necessary.

    Honesty and openness is vitally important if you want your kids to come to you for advice about stuff like this when they're older, and that can make a big difference in terms of them understanding the importance of safe sex, not being pressured into it before they're ready, etc.

    This.
    It's just sex.
  • arrseegee
    arrseegee Posts: 575 Member
    My mother didn't shy away from this stuff and I knew from about age 4 or 5 that the man's _______ goes in the woman's _______ and that is how the baby gets made. We were encouraged to ask questions and we all knew the mechanics of how it happened from a young age. We also knew it was something that adults did, and that it wasn't the best topic to talk about when we were in other company. My parents tied this information in with their lessons about stranger danger and also the discussions that secrets are bad (although this lesson got amended to 'short secrets' (fine) vs 'long secrets' (not good) when I announced to my dad what everything he was getting for his birthday because 'we don't keep secrets'). I think they did it really well.

    Despite that I still remember giggling my head off at age 11 when our teacher got into more detail, so although it was never a taboo subject in our family I was just as embarrassed as all the other kids while learning at school.
  • fannyfrost
    fannyfrost Posts: 756 Member
    In the case of how your daughter asked, she doesn't want to know what sex is, she wants to know why everyone is talking about it like its bad. The answer can be really simple here. Sex is something that happens between a man and a woman when they love each other. It isn't wrong, but Justin and Selena aren't married and are very young. So sex is not wrong, but its best to do after marriage and with the person you love. It should also be very private and the people talking about Justin and Selena probably should mind their own business.

    Be careful with the detail, doesn't sound like your daughter is ready. Sounds like she just wants to know at a high level. Most times the questions aren't all that deep.

    Answer the questions asked simply, you don't need to give details yet.
  • VBnotbitter
    VBnotbitter Posts: 820 Member
    In the case of how your daughter asked, she doesn't want to know what sex is, she wants to know why everyone is talking about it like its bad. The answer can be really simple here. Sex is something that happens between a man and a woman when they love each other. It isn't wrong, but Justin and Selena aren't married and are very young. So sex is not wrong, but its best to do after marriage and with the person you love. It should also be very private and the people talking about Justin and Selena probably should mind their own business.

    Be careful with the detail, doesn't sound like your daughter is ready. Sounds like she just wants to know at a high level. Most times the questions aren't all that deep.

    Answer the questions asked simply, you don't need to give details yet.

    Erm not wanting to jump in and cause a thread derailment but sex doesn't just occur between a man and a woman or necessarily involve marriage. That's just your morality but doesn't make it correct information to give to children