Not losing weight - need help and advice! Please

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  • hortensehildegarde
    hortensehildegarde Posts: 592 Member

    If you have a history of anorexia, you should get some advice from a professional. A bunch of yahoos on the internet aren't what you need. But something is out of whack. If you really are eating that little and *gaining* weight, something is seriously wrong.

    ditto on this again and again. If you are serious that you have no idea how you could manage to eat 1600 calories a day and you have always been eating less than that and yet still gained enough weight to have 40lbs to lose you need a doctor or something. Or you are already at a healthy weight and are confused about needing to lose 40lbs. Please go talk to (a professional) someone to find out which it is.

    I wasn't trying to be mean I seriously thought you were joking since I often would eat 1,600 cal for a snack, much less a day!
  • fast_eddie_72
    fast_eddie_72 Posts: 719 Member
    It shouldn't be any different. I just listed all that I've done, along with the "professional" help that I have received.
    I'll try and increase my calories and see what that does.

    I'll say it one more time and then leave you to it.

    If you are eating that little and gaining weight, something is seriously wrong. I'm not a doctor. I don't know if it makes it any different or not. I had a woman with personal experience tell me that a history of anorexia can mess things up when you try to lose weight later in life. Could be. I simply don't know. But it's not something to be trifled with. And, again, if you're really eating that little food and somehow *gaining* weight, there's something that someone who knows what they're doing needs to help you with. That's no joke.
  • http://sophieologie.me/2013/09/26/1200-calories/

    This was a good read.
    THANK YOU!
  • By the way, high school was 20 years and 2 kids ago. I am nowhere near a healthy weight. I thought I had posted it earlier in this....
  • kimosabe1
    kimosabe1 Posts: 2,467 Member
    bump your calories to 1400. I didn't lose on 1200 & started losing at 1400. I am 5'5".5-good luck!:flowerforyou:
  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    If you just started a new workout routine, then the 2 pounds could be from that (water retention). Give the new workout time.
  • hortensehildegarde
    hortensehildegarde Posts: 592 Member
    By the way, high school was 20 years and 2 kids ago. I am nowhere near a healthy weight. I thought I had posted it earlier in this....

    so how tall are you and how much do you weigh? You just said you thought you needed to lose 40 lbs but didn't say how you arrived at that number.
  • I'm currently 5'4 and 210. According to charts I should be in the 130's, but I am not built to be that small. 170 is a healthy weight for me and puts me in about a size 6.
  • Paleo is a great option. However looking at your diary I see that you are not actually paleo. Most days you are under 1200 even under 1000 unless you are not logging everything. 1200, like many others have said, is not high enough for most people. I like the TDEE- 20% method. And if 20% is too low then do 15% or 10%. Make sure you are eating back some if not all of your exercise calories and that you are getting enough water too. You need food, food is good for you!
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    I have about 40lbs to lose and I'm at 1200 calories, logging everyday along with tracking on my Fitbit.

    Your diary is woefully incomplete. Bottom line, evidence suggests you are eating more than you think. I suggest you get your logging down solid before worrying about anything else.

    I also don't understand where "paleo" comes into it - what you do log doesn't fit any of the commonly used definitions.

    Good luck!
    I'm currently 5'4 and 210. According to charts I should be in the 130's, but I am not built to be that small. 170 is a healthy weight for me and puts me in about a size 6.

    Personally, I would put some more consideration and self-reflection into those numbers. At that height at 210 lbs, you are about 50% body fat and have considerably more than 40 lbs to lose.
  • AliceDark
    AliceDark Posts: 3,886 Member
    So, you probably chose 2 pounds a week to have been set at 1200 calories. I recommend you set it for 1 pound per week and eat back some exercise calories.

    Or eat at TDEE - 20% and do not worry about eating extra exercise calories.

    Using one of the many TDEE calculators I get this:
    BMR: 1695 (the amount you need for basic body functions if you stayed in bed)
    TDEE: 2627 (the amount where you would maintain your current weight, not gain or lose)
    TDEE-20%: 2102 (this would result in about 1 pound a week loss)

    This. If you've been a lifelong dieter, I'm guessing you've done the same diet (1200 calories, often under) at least a few times and it either hasn't worked or it works for a little while but it's not sustainable. Why not try the TDEE-20% method for a month or two? Remember, you can always go back to what you're doing now. (I'd bet that TDEE-20% will work much better for you and you won't go back to starving, but it may be less scary to keep in the back of your mind that you're just trying something different and you can always change again).

    Try upping your calories, slowly and in a controlled way, and see what happens. If you have a history of disordered eating, jumping from 1000 to 1800-2000 suddenly could really trigger you, but walking up 100 calories/day/week might not. The fear is probably that you'll suddenly gain a ton of weight, but that won't happen. If you go slow, pay attention and monitor it, you can make little adjustments along the way.
  • Just so you know, based on your food diary you're not quite eating paleo...Paleo would be absolutely no grains (at all, including rye, wheat, corn, barely and rice), avoiding processed foods, and no legumes (soy, peanuts, beans).
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    You are not logging consistently. On the days you do log, it appears that there may be a lot missing.
    What do you drink? Do you use condiments? Do you weigh and measure everything?

    I agree your goal should not be 1200 calories but before you start upping you calories, you need to know how much you are really eating. If you are gaining weight, you are eating too much.

    I can't stress enough the importance of logging everything and logging accurately.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member

    I can't stress enough the importance of logging everything and logging accurately.

    Yes, this too. Should put in signature "advice above assumes accurate logging".
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    Just so you know, based on your food diary you're not quite eating paleo...and if you are eating paleo, you definitley need to adjust your macros accordingly!

    Not quite is an understatement. Although from reading the OP I assumed they had tried Paleo in January and assumed from the diary they are no longer following it.

    If you do choose to do Paleo, you may want to look into the Whole 30. It will at least give you good guidelines on how to portion your food to ensure you are eating enough and balanced. It is not meant to go with calorie counting although it is calorie restriction in itself.
  • I write down what I eat. My husband is paleo, so besides the morning bar, anything else in the house falls under that. Its sometimes easier to carry a notebook and write it down than it is to log it sometimes.
  • hortensehildegarde
    hortensehildegarde Posts: 592 Member
    but I am not built to be that small.

    no doubt! I am taller than you and there's no way I'd even be a "Gap" 6 at 170. So yeah, either serious metabolic issue or not counting right. By all means, try some of the methods (TDEE etc) suggested but I would absolutely look into how you are arriving at your calorie count for what you are eating. At the stats you are giving you should lose on 1600 a day even if you stayed in bed all day, nevermind the 1200 you claim you are eating with the exercise you claim you are doing.
  • http://sophieologie.me/2013/09/26/1200-calories/

    This was a good read.
    THANK YOU!


    Welcome to the wonderful world of MFP! The place that will tell you that if you are not losing weight at 1200 calories, magically increasing to 1500 will suddenly result in weight loss. BS! Eating more is ridiculous advice. If you are not in a deficit at 1200, you wont be in one at 1500. And you wont lose weight. Period!

    Find out what is going on with your metabolism and get your RMR/BMR tested. If there is an issue, discuss the results with a dietician, nutrionalist, or professional and develop a plan that works for YOU. If there is nothing wrong, you have peace of mind and should re work how you are counting calories and exercise numbers. And don't start "eating back" your exercise calories. You don't burn 200 calories and then get to eat a Twinkie as a tradeoff. Consider calorie burning a bonus that will contribute to additional weight loss.
  • And to the person that said I was closer to 50% body fat, you are wrong. I'm closer to 40%. Trust me I checked. And if I go under 170, then I look like Dolly Parton, which is not the "look" I am going for.
  • And I came on here to get help, no to defend myself. Apparently I need to post my receipt for my gym membership, but even if I did that someone would come up with "But you have to go". And I do.
    If you dont have anything to contribute, then please, dont.
    This started off helpful, but some of you are not being nice.
  • fast_eddie_72
    fast_eddie_72 Posts: 719 Member
    And to the person that said I was closer to 50% body fat, you are wrong. I'm closer to 40%. Trust me I checked. And if I go under 170, then I look like Dolly Parton, which is not the "look" I am going for.

    lol I'll give you this - that's NOT a good look. Dolly could use a few pounds... in addition to the pounds which are already clearly ample in certain areas.

    Please look at the last few replies and listen to what they're saying. And very best of luck to you.
  • elleloch
    elleloch Posts: 739 Member
    http://sophieologie.me/2013/09/26/1200-calories/

    This was a good read.
    THANK YOU!


    Welcome to the wonderful world of MFP! The place that will tell you that if you are not losing weight at 1200 calories, magically increasing to 1500 will suddenly result in weight loss. BS! Eating more is ridiculous advice. If you are not in a deficit at 1200, you wont be in one at 1500. And you wont lose weight. Period!

    Find out what is going on with your metabolism and get your RMRBMR tested. If there is an issue, discuss the results with a dietician, nutrionalist, or professional and develop a plan that works for YOU. If there is nothing wrong, you have peace of mind and should re work how you are counting calories and exercise numbers. And don't start "eating back" your exercise calories. You don't burn 200 calories and then get to eat a Twinkie as a tradeoff. Consider calorie burning a bonus that will contribute to additional weight loss.

    I'm sorry. Where are you reading that someone said she should eat a Twinkie?
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    I write down what I eat. My husband is paleo, so besides the morning bar, anything else in the house falls under that. Its sometimes easier to carry a notebook and write it down than it is to log it sometimes.

    When you write it down, do you add up the calories? Where do you get the info?

    How do you measure you food?

    Paleo food does not equal automatic weight loss. The paleo diet is supposed to consist of balanced meals with a protein, fat and veggies/fruit. The combination of these help to satiate and keep you full. That plus the restriction of other foods tends to put people in a calorie deficit without counting calories. It doesn't work like that if you just eat paleo foods. There are quite a number of paleo foods that are quite high in calories.
  • Dnarules
    Dnarules Posts: 2,081 Member
    http://sophieologie.me/2013/09/26/1200-calories/

    This was a good read.
    THANK YOU!


    Welcome to the wonderful world of MFP! The place that will tell you that if you are not losing weight at 1200 calories, magically increasing to 1500 will suddenly result in weight loss. BS! Eating more is ridiculous advice. If you are not in a deficit at 1200, you wont be in one at 1500. And you wont lose weight. Period!

    Find out what is going on with your metabolism and get your RMRBMR tested. If there is an issue, discuss the results with a dietician, nutrionalist, or professional and develop a plan that works for YOU. If there is nothing wrong, you have peace of mind and should re work how you are counting calories and exercise numbers. And don't start "eating back" your exercise calories. You don't burn 200 calories and then get to eat a Twinkie as a tradeoff. Consider calorie burning a bonus that will contribute to additional weight loss.

    This is BS. MFP is set up to eat back your calories, or a least a portion of them. It doesn't mean you eat a twinkie, although you can.
  • Ha, ha! No, I dont want the twinkie. But thank you! ;)
  • fast_eddie_72
    fast_eddie_72 Posts: 719 Member
    And I came on here to get help, no to defend myself. Apparently I need to post my receipt for my gym membership, but even if I did that someone would come up with "But you have to go". And I do.
    If you dont have anything to contribute, then please, dont.
    This started off helpful, but some of you are not being nice.

    No one is trying to be unkind. The first few replies told you what you wanted to hear, but were not accurate. It really is this simple - you can not gain weight if you are at a calorie deficit. Since you report that you gained weight, something is awry. That's all anyone is saying. Either you're not recording accurately (which is really common and very easy to do) or there is something unusual about your metabolism. It simply is not possible for a normal person your size to gain weight at the calorie level you are reporting. You're BMR should be higher than that.

    Then when you report a history of anorexia, it makes giving advice that much more complicated. It's not being unhelpful to say you should see a professional under those circumstances. It's being prudent.

    However, as has been said several times, it's very likely you're not reporting accurately. No one is calling you a liar. If you have a few minutes, watch this. I, and a lot of others, found it really enlightening.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA9AdlhB18o
  • http://sophieologie.me/2013/09/26/1200-calories/

    This was a good read.
    THANK YOU!


    Welcome to the wonderful world of MFP! The place that will tell you that if you are not losing weight at 1200 calories, magically increasing to 1500 will suddenly result in weight loss. BS! Eating more is ridiculous advice. If you are not in a deficit at 1200, you wont be in one at 1500. And you wont lose weight. Period!

    Find out what is going on with your metabolism and get your RMRBMR tested. If there is an issue, discuss the results with a dietician, nutrionalist, or professional and develop a plan that works for YOU. If there is nothing wrong, you have peace of mind and should re work how you are counting calories and exercise numbers. And don't start "eating back" your exercise calories. You don't burn 200 calories and then get to eat a Twinkie as a tradeoff. Consider calorie burning a bonus that will contribute to additional weight loss.

    I'm sorry. Where are you reading that someone said she should eat a Twinkie?


    A shot at the people who continually spread the nonsense to "eat back your calories". And who constantly use exercise as a trade off to eat more food. Don't eat a Twinkie, a Ding Dong, or a Ho Ho. Stick to your deficit and consider exercise a bonus.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    http://sophieologie.me/2013/09/26/1200-calories/

    This was a good read.
    THANK YOU!


    Welcome to the wonderful world of MFP! The place that will tell you that if you are not losing weight at 1200 calories, magically increasing to 1500 will suddenly result in weight loss. BS! Eating more is ridiculous advice. If you are not in a deficit at 1200, you wont be in one at 1500. And you wont lose weight. Period!

    Find out what is going on with your metabolism and get your RMRBMR tested. If there is an issue, discuss the results with a dietician, nutrionalist, or professional and develop a plan that works for YOU. If there is nothing wrong, you have peace of mind and should re work how you are counting calories and exercise numbers. And don't start "eating back" your exercise calories. You don't burn 200 calories and then get to eat a Twinkie as a tradeoff. Consider calorie burning a bonus that will contribute to additional weight loss.

    This is BS. MFP is set up to eat back your calories, or a least a portion of them. It doesn't mean you eat a twinkie, although you can.

    To add to this, a dietician uses the TDEE formula which account for BMR, plus daily activity AND anticipated exercise. They don't give you an extra 200 calories for working out because they already figured it in your daily goal.
    MFP figures your BMR and daily activity but does not factor in exercise, which is why they log it and tell you to eat it back.
    If you are doing the math correctly and choosing the right goals, you find yourself in pretty much the same spot. It all averages out over the week.
  • kill3rtofu
    kill3rtofu Posts: 169 Member
    eat more
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    http://sophieologie.me/2013/09/26/1200-calories/

    This was a good read.
    THANK YOU!


    Welcome to the wonderful world of MFP! The place that will tell you that if you are not losing weight at 1200 calories, magically increasing to 1500 will suddenly result in weight loss. BS! Eating more is ridiculous advice. If you are not in a deficit at 1200, you wont be in one at 1500. And you wont lose weight. Period!

    Find out what is going on with your metabolism and get your RMRBMR tested. If there is an issue, discuss the results with a dietician, nutrionalist, or professional and develop a plan that works for YOU. If there is nothing wrong, you have peace of mind and should re work how you are counting calories and exercise numbers. And don't start "eating back" your exercise calories. You don't burn 200 calories and then get to eat a Twinkie as a tradeoff. Consider calorie burning a bonus that will contribute to additional weight loss.

    I'm sorry. Where are you reading that someone said she should eat a Twinkie?


    A shot at the people who continually spread the nonsense to "eat back your calories". And who constantly use exercise as a trade off to eat more food. Don't eat a Twinkie, a Ding Dong, or a Ho Ho. Stick to your deficit and consider exercise a bonus.

    That might be fine if you have a moderate calorie goal to begin with and don't do a lot of exercise, but for those who are very active, it is not good advice. It is even worse for those with very low calorie goals and are very active. 1000 calorie exercise deficit is not a good bonus when you are already at a 1000 calorie eating deficit.


    MFP is designed that way for a reason.