NO starch, no sugar, no results! HELP!
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That's crazy! Have you tried being gluten and processed grain free? That sounds like a lot of vegetables to help you with any inflammation problems you might have. Don't eat 'diet' foods. They're horrible for inflammation. I love the Atkins bars and Diet Mountain Dew and sugar free Russell Stover's chocolates! But when I eat them, I see NOOOOO results. Just steady weight, with no loss. Okay, I realize that may not be anything you're doing. Just trying to think of anything that could possibly help. Oh, and I mentioned gluten and processed grains, because I have to give those up in order to lose weight. My body just can't handle them. It loves them so much it wants to keep them all forever in a nice cushy padding across my mid section. They also cause my intestines to become inflamed and swollen.
Start putting fresh lemon or lime juice in your water, if you don't already. And drink one glass with some organic apple cider each day.
Unless OP has a gluten intolerance there's no reason to give up gluten.
Here is an excerpt from Chris Kressers' article on toxicity:
Article Title: Cereal grains: the unhealthiest “health food” on the planet?
"The major cereal grains – wheat, corn, rice, barley, sorghum, oats, rye and millet – have become the staple crops of the modern human diet. They’ve also become the “poster children” of the low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet promoted by organizations like the American Heart Association (AHA) and American Diabetes Association (ADA). If you say the phrase “whole grains” to most people, the first word that probably comes to their mind is “healthy”.
But the fact is that most animals, including our closest relative (the chimpanzee) aren’t adapted to eating cereal grains and don’t eat them in large quantities. And humans have only been eating them for the past 10,000 years (a tiny blip of time on the scale of evolution). Why?
Because plants like cereal grains are always competing against predators (like us) for survival. Unlike animals, plants can’t run away from us when we decide to eat them. They had to evolve other mechanisms for protecting themselves. These include:
producing toxins that damage the lining of the gut;
producing toxins that bind essential minerals, making them unavailable to the body; and,
producing toxins that inhibit digestion and absorption of other essential nutrients, including protein.
One of these toxic compounds is the protein gluten, which is present in wheat and many of the other most commonly eaten cereal grains. In short, gluten damages the intestine and makes it leaky. And researchers now believe that a leaky gut is one of the major predisposing factors for conditions like obesity, diabetes and autoimmune disease."
Hopefully your journey involves being open, learning something new then researching to figure out if it's right for you.
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Because all plants on the planetare always competing against predators (like us) for survival.
FTFY.
In reality there aren't that many plants we eat that are specifically adapted to being eaten. The list includes mostly fruits, which have adapted to being eaten by animals in order to disperse seeds.
Most plants that we eat have adaptations to prevent us from eating them. Bitterness, poison, etc. The crops that we do cultivate and consume have been heavily bred to the point that they barely resemble their pre-domestication ancestors, and many of them need to be cooked or prepared in some fashion to even be palatable. There's a reason kale is bitter, for instance.0 -
That's crazy! Have you tried being gluten and processed grain free? That sounds like a lot of vegetables to help you with any inflammation problems you might have. Don't eat 'diet' foods. They're horrible for inflammation. I love the Atkins bars and Diet Mountain Dew and sugar free Russell Stover's chocolates! But when I eat them, I see NOOOOO results. Just steady weight, with no loss. Okay, I realize that may not be anything you're doing. Just trying to think of anything that could possibly help. Oh, and I mentioned gluten and processed grains, because I have to give those up in order to lose weight. My body just can't handle them. It loves them so much it wants to keep them all forever in a nice cushy padding across my mid section. They also cause my intestines to become inflamed and swollen.
Start putting fresh lemon or lime juice in your water, if you don't already. And drink one glass with some organic apple cider each day.
Unless OP has a gluten intolerance there's no reason to give up gluten.
Here is an excerpt from Chris Kressers' article on toxicity:
Article Title: Cereal grains: the unhealthiest “health food” on the planet?
"The major cereal grains – wheat, corn, rice, barley, sorghum, oats, rye and millet – have become the staple crops of the modern human diet. They’ve also become the “poster children” of the low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet promoted by organizations like the American Heart Association (AHA) and American Diabetes Association (ADA). If you say the phrase “whole grains” to most people, the first word that probably comes to their mind is “healthy”.
But the fact is that most animals, including our closest relative (the chimpanzee) aren’t adapted to eating cereal grains and don’t eat them in large quantities. And humans have only been eating them for the past 10,000 years (a tiny blip of time on the scale of evolution). Why?
Because plants like cereal grains are always competing against predators (like us) for survival. Unlike animals, plants can’t run away from us when we decide to eat them. They had to evolve other mechanisms for protecting themselves. These include:
producing toxins that damage the lining of the gut;
producing toxins that bind essential minerals, making them unavailable to the body; and,
producing toxins that inhibit digestion and absorption of other essential nutrients, including protein.
One of these toxic compounds is the protein gluten, which is present in wheat and many of the other most commonly eaten cereal grains. In short, gluten damages the intestine and makes it leaky. And researchers now believe that a leaky gut is one of the major predisposing factors for conditions like obesity, diabetes and autoimmune disease."
Hopefully your journey involves being open, learning something new then researching to figure out if it's right for you.
Namaste
My journey involves believing in science. Chris Kresser is a quack, imo.
Also I have done a gluten free diet, because I wanted to see if there would be any benefit to my chronic illnesses. There wasn't.0 -
Sounds like you are doing awesome, just wanted to add that cardio alone doesn't work for me, my body likes some weight training mixed in....maybe add a couple days of weight training and see if that will help at all. Good luck!!!0
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I'd like to thank the producers of The Biggest Loser for making this thread - and others like it - proliferate.0
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Thank you, repliers. Start was 182, goal 135 but will be satisfied with 140. I did four weeks calorie counting with this tool, and with exercise stayed At 1200 net calories. I was not getting the estimated 1.8 lb weekly loss I hoped so transitioned to low carb to see if that would help. Thanks for the encouragement and to know 1 lb is both realistic. And (perhaps) healthier. I have a history of alcoholism so that may be playing a part, too. I'll keep at it. Thanks again.0
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She asked for advice and we all give advice based on what has worked for us. I'm amazed at how defensive and irrate people become when you mention going off of grains. It was only a suggestion for someone seeking answers.
Anyway, someone asked me how I know my intestines were swollen and inflamed:
I go from having a flat stomach to a pregnant looking one every time I start eating wheat gluten, corn and other processed grain flours. My body just doesn't tolerate them well. It usually takes a few days of going off of them for it to go back down to normal size again. The longer I eat it, the worse it becomes. I also begin having frequent stomach pains, discomfort, heartburn and begin to feel arthritic, have bad circulation and suffer from heart palpitations and dizzy spells when I'm eating a consistent processed-grain-filled diet. I've tested negative for celiacs disease, but believe I have an intolerance to grain glutens or perhaps carb overload. The exhaustion that just won't shake itself off of me, is something that I just can't live with. So I ignore the doctor who's only seen me once, got a negative test result and doesn't care to listen to me or investigate further. I do what my body needs me to do. I do consume grains sometimes, but when I do, I try to eat only the actual wheat berries that I've cooked myself. Feel free to look at my blog www.poshglutenfreelife.blogspot.com I've been paying close attention to my body's reaction to processed grains for the last six years and can't deny that it has a bad effect on me.
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160 oz. Juliegirl, is that the right amount of water for your weight? It is possible to give yourself a chemical imbalance with too much water. Just a thought: Water intoxication: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication0 -
I go from having a flat stomach to a pregnant looking one every time I start eating wheat gluten, corn and other processed grain flours. My body just doesn't tolerate them well. It usually takes a few days of going off of them for it to go back down to normal size again. The longer I eat it, the worse it becomes. I also begin having frequent stomach pains, discomfort,
just excerpted a piece from EspressoGal's post... these sorts of symptoms happen to me when I have dairy (milk in particular). Cheese not so much.
It's because I have an intolerance toward dairy. But just because I have this reaction, doesn't mean that others should stop consuming dairy. And even if they share similar symptoms, without analyzing their diet, I cannot say that because we have the same symptoms, the same cure would work.
Funny enough, the same thing happens when I have an Iced Cappuccino.. and some types of coffees. Gassy, bloated, unhappy body. I don't know if that means the intestines are inflamed, or swollen... or just chalk full of gas and, sorry for the tmi, diarrhea.
It never hurts to share our experiences, but we need to be sure that when advising people we are clear in reminding that personal experience does not equal fact.0 -
I've tried dairy free too. That was one of the things I tried. It's very difficult to be 100% dairy free, but I did achieve it and found that for me, processed grains were causing the problems.
This forum states that no ones opinion should be taken as professional medical advice. There's really no need to remind everyone of that. I'm kind of confused. Is this how posting on these forums always goes? People think you're stating the LAW for sharing what's worked for you, and have to attack back at you for having the nerve to offer your advice and help. The post title says "HELP!" Why not offer help?0 -
She asked for advice and we all give advice based on what has worked for us. I'm amazed at how defensive and irrate people become when you mention going off of grains. It was only a suggestion for someone seeking answers.
If OP had mentioned that she had a grain/gluten sensitivity issue then it would of been a legit answer; however, her only concern was about a plateau, which was really nonexistent...0 -
average of 1lb per week = no results?
I suggest changing your expectations.
This. You are having results.0 -
I've tried dairy free too. That was one of the things I tried. It's very difficult to be 100% dairy free, but I did achieve it and found that for me, processed grains were causing the problems.
This forum states that no ones opinion should be taken as professional medical advice. There's really no need to remind everyone of that. I'm kind of confused. Is this how posting on these forums always goes? People think you're stating the LAW for sharing what's worked for you, and have to attack back at you for having the nerve to offer your advice and help. The post title says "HELP!" Why not offer help?
Yes, true.. the forum does state that no one's opinion should be taken as professional advice. And yet, that's what people do here. They do take people's advice - both good advice and bad.
The OP has seen an average weight loss of 1lb per week for three weeks and was bothered by it. 1lb per week is an AWESOME SUCCESS. And (in my uneducated opinion) a much healthier success than 2lb/week.
Your response was:That's crazy! Have you tried being gluten and processed grain free? That sounds like a lot of vegetables to help you with any inflammation problems you might have. Don't eat 'diet' foods. They're horrible for inflammation. I love the Atkins bars and Diet Mountain Dew and sugar free Russell Stover's chocolates! But when I eat them, I see NOOOOO results. Just steady weight, with no loss. Okay, I realize that may not be anything you're doing. Just trying to think of anything that could possibly help. Oh, and I mentioned gluten and processed grains, because I have to give those up in order to lose weight. My body just can't handle them. It loves them so much it wants to keep them all forever in a nice cushy padding across my mid section. They also cause my intestines to become inflamed and swollen.
Start putting fresh lemon or lime juice in your water, if you don't already. And drink one glass with some organic apple cider each day.
NOTE: Emphasis in quote is mine
- "That's crazy" implies that 1lb a week loss average is NOT a good thing.
- then you suggest severe restriction in diet in order to help OP lose more than that...
people reacted to that because many people come onto this site believing that weight loss has to be so hard and restrictive and misery inducing. So they don't believe that tracking and eating calories within an acceptable range (for the average person) WILL actually yield results.
As such, when someone says... ERMAGERD stop eating all the foods that are derived from animals with cloven hooves... (<~~~ sarcasm there) Those people who are trained to believe it must be hard, think... ahhhh now THAT makes sense! THAT is why I haven't been losing. I must be allergic!
Your experiences did work for you, and there is nothing wrong with sharing them. I guess people jumped on the way in which you shared them.
in an extreme metaphor comparison...
Pretend Extreme diet restriction is a hot element
Pretend the OP is a child
Pretend the experienced users are an adult supervising the child
Pretend that someone says, hey, maybe touch the element
Adult yells NO! DON'T TOUCH! And quite possibly overreacts, even if the child had no intention of touching, and even if the person wasn't intending for the child to touch the element, but maybe just warm their hands over the heat some.
I know, it's a stretched metaphor, but it works in my crazy noggin0 -
She asked for advice and we all give advice based on what has worked for us. I'm amazed at how defensive and irrate people become when you mention going off of grains. It was only a suggestion for someone seeking answers.
Anyway, someone asked me how I know my intestines were swollen and inflamed:
I go from having a flat stomach to a pregnant looking one every time I start eating wheat gluten, corn and other processed grain flours. My body just doesn't tolerate them well. It usually takes a few days of going off of them for it to go back down to normal size again. The longer I eat it, the worse it becomes. I also begin having frequent stomach pains, discomfort, heartburn and begin to feel arthritic, have bad circulation and suffer from heart palpitations and dizzy spells when I'm eating a consistent processed-grain-filled diet. I've tested negative for celiacs disease, but believe I have an intolerance to grain glutens or perhaps carb overload. The exhaustion that just won't shake itself off of me, is something that I just can't live with. So I ignore the doctor who's only seen me once, got a negative test result and doesn't care to listen to me or investigate further. I do what my body needs me to do. I do consume grains sometimes, but when I do, I try to eat only the actual wheat berries that I've cooked myself. Feel free to look at my blog www.poshglutenfreelife.blogspot.com I've been paying close attention to my body's reaction to processed grains for the last six years and can't deny that it has a bad effect on me.
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160 oz. Juliegirl, is that the right amount of water for your weight? It is possible to give yourself a chemical imbalance with too much water. Just a thought: Water intoxication: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
She wasn't having any issues that would suggest a gluten intolerance.
It's important that the advice you give is relevant to the OP. She's doing fine and losing 1 lb per week. She doesn't report bloat, pain/fatigue, or ibs-like symptoms.0 -
Slow weight loss is always frustrating. But, it's the best way to go. I try to remind myself that I am more than a number on the scale. You could be losing inches and fat, but gaining muscle. So, don't give up. I found that while I changed to healthier choices in food, the choices I made were higher in fat. I have to constantly watch how many nuts I really eat for a snack or how much peanut butter I have with my apple. It sneaks up on me. Then, one year I had my metabolism tested and it helped me to determine my current caloric intake. I found out my metabolism was lower than average. I was able to increase my metabolism by increasing my muscle mass. Wish I was back at that old weight, but alas, I'm older and can't say much wiser!! LOL Good luck!0
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Thank you, repliers. Start was 182, goal 135 but will be satisfied with 140. I did four weeks calorie counting with this tool, and with exercise stayed At 1200 net calories. I was not getting the estimated 1.8 lb weekly loss I hoped so transitioned to low carb to see if that would help. Thanks for the encouragement and to know 1 lb is both realistic. And (perhaps) healthier. I have a history of alcoholism so that may be playing a part, too. I'll keep at it. Thanks again.
An estimated 1.8 lb weekly loss might not be realistic however, trying different things like low carb might be just the thing to boost the weight loss a bit. There are a lot of little things that may or may not make a difference like exercising on an empty stomach (after a fast) to force the body to burn fat, drinking black coffee on an empty stomach, time of exercise (morning to burn fat, afternoon to build endurance), drinking water with lemon first thing in the morning, not drinking water with a meal (slows digestion) and a whole host of these types of things to try. Some may or may not work for you. As long as you are losing, you are doing something right AND that's all that matters.0
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