No carbs starches or sugar?

OP, besides what i said above (does he mean processed sugars or natural sugars like you find in fruit?

You need to clarify from your doctor what he meant, when you find you you will know why some foods are off limits.

could be it is temporary, as after surgery you go on liquids, then semi solids, then more solids, and some foods are introduced, some foods are forbidden like soda pop.

It may be like the poster above said, that you only have room for protein at first. this is the most important thing. it could be that sugars fill up your body with things that it does not need as much as proteins, but that might be temporary.

when i learned about weight loss surgery, i thought i remembered them saying some foods are gradually brought back in, but you HAVE to be careful as not everything can be introduced.

I've been watching on TV "My 600 pound life" on TLC, and i cannot believe the food some of the people eat post-op, i mean they eat fast food chicken nuggets and french fries and soda pop. I cringe when i see it and do noit know how they can eat that nor how their body doesnt vomit it all back up.

please check with your doc for specifics about your food post op, if you eat the wrong thing you might get serious complications post op. i would not leave it to guessing.

There's someone on my friends list who had the surgery. He can only eat small amounts of food, so he mostly focuses on protein, but he does eat other things sometimes and even had a slice of pizza for dinner one night. I can show him this thread and maybe he can friend you and offer some advice. He has lost a lot of weight and works out every day. Good luck.

Hello, great question! I went through bariatric surgery in Sept 23 2013. Was 2 pounds away from 300 pounds total. Had many issues that demanded my attention and surgery to help loose weight or I could have been refused surgery to save my life. Nevertheless-I got on the band wagon and followed completely and the last time I weighed myself I am now 184 and shrunk I just dont weigh myself that often. Nevertheless-Gastric Bypass surgery is what I had. I also do not eat, even now, much starches and not a whole lot of veggies ect. Mostly protein. I do take, as you will four vitamins a day to allow for such. The reason especially after surgery that sugars, starches ect are a no no is because of what they consider a dumping syndrome. Won't go into too much detail but if you get too much sweet or starches with sugar you could quickly loose your meal. Also, since your stomach pouch is so small if you were to eat anything but protein you would not get your 80 or so grams of protein in because the pouch would be full of other things. Anyway, stay in touch--good luck with your surgery and just a side note--I really don't miss all those other foods and don't regret getting my life back on track and being in control instead of the insurance companies with my life decisions.

For information of what a sleeve operation does, see this link. They actually remove most of your stomach and create a vertical pouch for your new stomach for the sleeve. http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/007435.htm

Also, as time goes by you will be allowed to eat some veggies-just not the really stringy kind and when you hit your 70% weight loss weight set by your doctor and approved by you you can then start having small amounds of grain. Starchy veggies, in about the 3 month mark you can start having beans ect as well.

Also, as well, realize the no carbs at all could be the first three days after surgery, but even milk has carbs. The carbs though will be very limited especially at first but almost everything has carbs. I was taking maybe 20 or 30 grams of carbs a day while on my liquid diet and soft food diet but like I said you really don't miss it and you won't feel hungry and sipping 64 oz of water a day will seem like a chore....

The dumping syndrome is for patients that had the actual surgery. Besides stapling your stomach so it's only very tiny, they also remove a certain amount of you small intestines that help with the process of sugar/carbs.

I believe the OP is just getting the sleeve. which is just a rubber band filled w/ saline that restricts the stomach size. It can be removed. It can also be adjusted to make less room, or more room if needed.

Since OP is just getting the sleeve, i don't see the reason to completely cut out everything but Protein. I can see if they recommend you eat the protein part of your meal first, and then have some veggies after if you 'have room'. Unless they just tell you NO you cant have so you wont' be tempted to eat something starchy or sugar before you eat the protein you need to heal. I would see another dietician, or get 100% clarification from the one you've already seen.

Actually the topic of "Brain needs carb for fuel" has been addressed by many low carb/ketogenic diet scientists. The brain does NOT only run on glycogen from glucose. Your body also makes ketones which your brain actually prefers to burn. In fact, I've read that ketones are preferred and more efficient for brain function.

Here's a few excerpts I've found on Psychology today.

"Ketogenic diets, which are very high in fat and low in carbohydrate and protein, have been prescribed for seizures for a long time."

"Breast milk is very high in fat. Newborns spend time in ketosis, and are therefore to some extent ketoadapted."

"For the brain, it means a lower seizure risk and a better environment for neuronal recovery and repair."

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201104/your-brain-ketones

A longer but more in depth read in the book http://www.artandscienceoflowcarb.com/ The science is quite overwhelming if you would just look into it and put away all prejudice of preconcieved notions that be absolutely need sugar and carbs to thrive. In fact the only carbs that we need should come from micro nutrient dense food, other than that, empty starchy sugary food serves us no purpose other than short term fuel which we often don't burn away quick enough anyway.

Actually the topic of "Brain needs carb for fuel" has been addressed by many low carb/ketogenic diet scientists. The brain does NOT only run on glycogen from glucose. Your body also makes ketones which your brain actually prefers to burn. In fact, I've read that ketones are preferred and more efficient for brain function.

Here's a few excerpts I've found on Psychology today.

"Ketogenic diets, which are very high in fat and low in carbohydrate and protein, have been prescribed for seizures for a long time."

"Breast milk is very high in fat. Newborns spend time in ketosis, and are therefore to some extent ketoadapted."

"For the brain, it means a lower seizure risk and a better environment for neuronal recovery and repair."

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry/201104/your-brain-ketones

A longer but more in depth read in the book http://www.artandscienceoflowcarb.com/ The science is quite overwhelming if you would just look into it and put away all prejudice of preconcieved notions that be absolutely need sugar and carbs to thrive. In fact the only carbs that we need should come from micro nutrient dense food, other than that, empty starchy sugary food serves us no purpose other than short term fuel which we often don't burn away quick enough anyway.

Wow, thank you for all that info. Very informative.

I have a friend who had laproscopic banding. In the beginning, it was necessary for her to give up eating a lot of things - she simply couldn't tolerate much and protein was the most important food for her to eat to heal from the surgery. Today, she eats everything - in small amounts.

I found *I* was addicted to sugar. So I gave up table sugar, honey, fructose, etc. and I gave up all *white* carbohydrates (potatoes, white flour, white rice, white pasta). I eat whole grains in small to moderate amounts and a diet rich in fruits and vegetables, lean meats now. I also eat/drink full fat dairy in moderation (organic plain whole milk yogurt about 2-3 oz/day). I have never felt better in my life. I no longer have to struggle to drop weight. And giving up sugar has not been as hard as I thought it would be. After I made it through the first 10 days, I felt like a million bucks, blood sugar evened out, no more cravings, it has been great. But if you told me a month ago that I was going to give up sugar with the CONSTANT cravings I had??? I would have told you you were certifiable! lol

Good luck with your surgery - be good to yourself.

I believe the OP is just getting the sleeve. which is just a rubber band filled w/ saline that restricts the stomach size. It can be removed. It can also be adjusted to make less room, or more room if needed.

This is the LapBand you are referencing. The sleeve is completely different.

Hi - hope you're not getting too hung up about the surgery. After surgery as you know you won't be able to eat as you di - the reason Protein is so important intake is due to it satisfying hunger and also because early on after surgery you may or may not suffer with problems such as having the runs and vomitting. Also - when you go for the surgery they will go through every little detail with you regarding post surgery diet do's and donts and honestly everybody is different in what they can tolerate/what not and the speed at which weight drops off although they do tend to set targets. You will also have to do the pre op diet which if you are having a baypass the sole aim of this is to reduce the size of your liver so there is room for them to work in there!
I wish you the best of luck and success. Not an easy option as some people think but indeed a last resort.
Jay