High LDL cholesterol levels
BenSalazar
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Has anyone done extensive research on what types of cholesterol is good for people who have high levels of LDL?
If you don’t mind, it would be great if you could share your findings. Thank you.
If you don’t mind, it would be great if you could share your findings. Thank you.
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Well there is only one type of dietary cholesterol. Particle size and total particles are what's important. generally lifestyle dictates the types of lipoproteins (ldl,vldl,idl,hdl) the liver manufactures. Weight loss and exercise are the 2 most important factor to improve the types the body will start to produce.0
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Your doc will need to run some tests to determine the sizes of your cholesterol.
For example,
-- When I was running and following a High carb, low fat diet, my LDL was moderate and the HDL was low.
-- Then switched to still running and following a High carb, moderate plant-base fat diet, my LDL were low and my HDL levels shot up.
Tests run by my doctor was able to explain how my dietary change impacted my scores. When I was following a low fat diet, my HDL had nothing to do, so while the numbers were small, their particular size (VHDL or something like that) was huge. My doc described the size as something of a mac truck.
When I changed my diet to a moderate plant-base fat diet, my HDL had something to do. So the liver was able to produce more.0 -
Well there is only one type of dietary cholesterol. Particle size and total particles are what's important. generally lifestyle dictates the types of lipoproteins (ldl,vldl,idl,hdl) the liver manufactures. Weight loss and exercise are the 2 most important factor to improve the types the body will start to produce.
Thank you for sharing.0 -
Your doc will need to run some tests to determine the sizes of your cholesterol.
For example,
-- When I was running and following a High carb, low fat diet, my LDL was moderate and the HDL was low.
-- Then switched to still running and following a High carb, moderate plant-base fat diet, my LDL were low and my HDL levels shot up.
Tests run by my doctor was able to explain how my dietary change impacted my scores. When I was following a low fat diet, my HDL had nothing to do, so while the numbers were small, their particular size (VHDL or something like that) was huge. My doc described the size as something of a mac truck.
When I changed my diet to a moderate plant-base fat diet, my HDL had something to do. So the liver was able to produce more.
This is fascinating. I appreciate you taking the time to write this out. I will consult with my doctor on this. Were these specialized tests you had done?0 -
I'm interested in this, too, because I have high LDL, but I also exercise. My diet wasn't that bad, but I did have eggs, shellfish, and red meat. I've given all these foods up and am trying to eat a higher percentage of complex carbs and vegetables and lean proteins like fish and chicken breasts. I haven't had an egg or a hamburger in about 6 weeks. I exercise 5-6 days a week, even before the cholesterol test. My HDL was high, around 67, so that's good, but the LDL was 170 -- bad! I'm trying to lose some body fat and about 10 lbs. before the follow up in May. Otherwise, it's Lipitor.0
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This is all appreciated. Many thanks. with regards to particle size, is that defined by the type of meat I eat, or more by the activity level and amount I eat. It's a bit confusing.0
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Lots of exercise will fix bad cholesterol.0
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I'm interested in this, too, because I have high LDL, but I also exercise. My diet wasn't that bad, but I did have eggs, shellfish, and red meat. I've given all these foods up and am trying to eat a higher percentage of complex carbs and vegetables and lean proteins like fish and chicken breasts. I haven't had an egg or a hamburger in about 6 weeks. I exercise 5-6 days a week, even before the cholesterol test. My HDL was high, around 67, so that's good, but the LDL was 170 -- bad! I'm trying to lose some body fat and about 10 lbs. before the follow up in May. Otherwise, it's Lipitor.0
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This is all appreciated. Many thanks. with regards to particle size, is that defined by the type of meat I eat, or more by the activity level and amount I eat. It's a bit confusing.0
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Interesting. What lowered my LDL and raised my HDL was reducing carbs but increasing fibre.
I still ate the same amount of sat. fat.0 -
Interesting. What lowered my LDL and raised my HDL was reducing carbs but increasing fibre.
I still ate the same amount of sat. fat.0 -
Interesting. What lowered my LDL and raised my HDL was reducing carbs but increasing fibre.
I still ate the same amount of sat. fat.
Good thing I love meat.0 -
In about a week I'll have a comparison posted of my blood levels before and after a one month Raw Vegan challenge I did in February. It will be interesting to see the side by side.0
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High LDL cholesterol in itself is not an issue.
LDL particles are only harmful when they are oxidized.
Diet and fitness are the best way's of controlling what they do.
The best thing to do is exercise to increase levels of HDL's. Limit or cut out foods which will cause inflammation and oxidation in the body. These are primarily Processed carbs, added sugar, grain, trans fat etc.
Eat lots of food rich in antioxidants.
A diet low in carbs and high in fat have been shown to reduce the triglycerides in the blood stream and to increase the LDL particle size (making them less of a risk in our bodies).
Good luck.0 -
Check out the work of Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn from the Cleveland Clinic.0
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Hi,
I've done a quick google search so I now know WHO he is, but couldn't find any of his papers.
Do you have any links to stuff he has written.
Cheers0 -
I have had high LDL levels for a long time. I was confused because tryglicerides were very low , glucose low and HDL very good.
It turns out that I have hereditary high cholesterol. Luckily I exercise regularly and eat a fairly clean diet but even at that, I still need to take a low dose of statins to keep ldl's in check. I learned my lesson when I decided I would try to handle it with just diet and exercise and tested at 257! It's worth discussing with a doc and seeing if you have a family history of high cholesterol.0 -
Hi,
I've done a quick google search so I now know WHO he is, but couldn't find any of his papers.
Do you have any links to stuff he has written.
Cheers
http://anthonycolpo.com/forks-over-knives-the-latest-vegan-nonsense-dissected-debunked-and-destroyed/0 -
Hi,
I've done a quick google search so I now know WHO he is, but couldn't find any of his papers.
Do you have any links to stuff he has written.
Cheers
http://www.heartattackproof.com/articles.htm0 -
From the page I linked:The trouble is, using a study involving multiple interventions as ‘proof’ of the effectiveness of a single intervention is a sterling example of inappropriate extrapolation. Esselstyn’s intervention was multifactorial: each patient was assigned to a very low-fat lacto-vegetarian diet and cholesterol-lowering drugs, the most common protocol being cholestyramine, 4 g twice daily, and lovastatin, 40 mg to 60 mg daily (Esselstyn has since gone on to eschew the use of low-fat dairy). Esselstyn’s strict dietary instructions meant forsaking all the refined processed garbage the patients were previously eating. So in in addition to eschewing meat, the patients also had to forgo all the nutrient-depleted, sugar/vegetable fat/additive-drenched junk they were previously scoffing down.
So let’s take a look at the long list of potential confounders. As a result of the intervention, the patients lost weight. Weight loss itself, irrespective of the diet employed, can causes improvements in arterial function, regression of arterial thickness, and anti-platelet activity[2-5]. The one consistent theme is that the degree of IMT reduction is linked to the amount of weight lost, not the mode of diet followed.
Esselstyn used a multiple intervention study which included weight loss and statin usage, and then concluded that one intervention reduced CVD risk... :frown:
He used no control group either.0 -
I have had high LDL levels for a long time. I was confused because tryglicerides were very low , glucose low and HDL very good.
It turns out that I have hereditary high cholesterol. Luckily I exercise regularly and eat a fairly clean diet but even at that, I still need to take a low dose of statins to keep ldl's in check. I learned my lesson when I decided I would try to handle it with just diet and exercise and tested at 257! It's worth discussing with a doc and seeing if you have a family history of high cholesterol.
If you did want to move away from statins you might want to look into the benefits from intermittent fasting! I've read that it has very similar results to taking statins.0
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