Why do so many women lift such light weights?
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Okay I'll chime in. For me, it was a mixture of a few things. (1) I was semi-convinced that heavy weights equaled big muscles, but seeing all the success threads of all the heavy lifting ladies really opened my eyes and inspired me. I didn't start right away though because (2) I had NO idea where to start, what to do, or how to do it. That encompasses not knowing form, what weight to start with, or how my workout should look on a day or week basis. And (3) once I DID get to the gym with my NROL4W workouts in hand, I was completely out of my element in the weights side of the gym, felt very "watched" even though now I can see no one gave a hoot, felt intimidated, and finally (4) still underestimated the amount of weight I could handle. Good thing my hubby was there to push me. I would've been spinning my wheels for a lot longer.
Hope that helps in your understanding. It can be a whole array of reasons. I'm so glad I started though. Heavy lifting me is so much more badass than cardio-bunny me :bigsmile:0 -
For all the ladies that have responded that they "didn't know".. I'd like to get your thoughts on an idea.
I've been considering the prospect of developing a 4-6 session course that covers weight lifting basics. Basically, my idea is to cover the anatomy and physiology of the body as it pertains to lifting. At the same time, I would like to introduce exercises that work said body part using body weight, machines, dumbbells and barbells.
So, for example, we'd discuss the muscles of the legs, how they work and what they do. Then, we'd make a circuit around the gym with everyone trying out the different equipment that works that body part, doing a form check and answering any questions.
I'm not a personal trainer, but I have done training of various types for many years (motorcycle, martial arts, ESL, etc). While I think that personal trainers are great, I've come to realize that all too often, they simply analyze a person, say "do this" and leave it at that. There is rarely any real "education" going on. I think this is wrong.
Anyway.. what are your thoughts on something like this so I can decide if its worth developing in the future?0 -
For all the ladies that have responded that they "didn't know".. I'd like to get your thoughts on an idea.
I've been considering the prospect of developing a 4-6 session course that covers weight lifting basics. Basically, my idea is to cover the anatomy and physiology of the body as it pertains to lifting. At the same time, I would like to introduce exercises that work said body part using body weight, machines, dumbbells and barbells.
So, for example, we'd discuss the muscles of the legs, how they work and what they do. Then, we'd make a circuit around the gym with everyone trying out the different equipment that works that body part, doing a form check and answering any questions.
I'm not a personal trainer, but I have done training of various types for many years (motorcycle, martial arts, ESL, etc). While I think that personal trainers are great, I've come to realize that all too often, they simply analyze a person, say "do this" and leave it at that. There is rarely any real "education" going on. I think this is wrong.
Anyway.. what are your thoughts on something like this so I can decide if its worth developing in the future?
Wouldn't you need to be insured to do this? What if one of your students hurts themselves under your guidance?0 -
If I were to go through with this, I would need to get my personal trainers certificate, and yes, I would need to be insured, just like any other personal trainer. Its just the same as when I do my motorcycle training.
This is just something that I've become interested in since I feel there is a void in this particular area of education.0 -
For all the ladies that have responded that they "didn't know".. I'd like to get your thoughts on an idea.
I've been considering the prospect of developing a 4-6 session course that covers weight lifting basics. Basically, my idea is to cover the anatomy and physiology of the body as it pertains to lifting. At the same time, I would like to introduce exercises that work said body part using body weight, machines, dumbbells and barbells.
So, for example, we'd discuss the muscles of the legs, how they work and what they do. Then, we'd make a circuit around the gym with everyone trying out the different equipment that works that body part, doing a form check and answering any questions.
I'm not a personal trainer, but I have done training of various types for many years (motorcycle, martial arts, ESL, etc). While I think that personal trainers are great, I've come to realize that all too often, they simply analyze a person, say "do this" and leave it at that. There is rarely any real "education" going on. I think this is wrong.
Anyway.. what are your thoughts on something like this so I can decide if its worth developing in the future?0 -
White - thats exactly the point. All of the information is out there (thats how I got it.. I have a lot of free time at work). But, most people aren't interested or don't have the time to sift through all the chaff to find the good stuff.0
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Why don't women lift heavy? Let's see...
Because we don't want to?
Because we don't want to build visible muscle? ( I sure don't!)
Because we don't need to, so why should we bother?
All perfectly valid reasons.
I don't know a better way to tell you this, but if you're lugging around hay bales and such, like you said in a previous thread, if you lose weight in your arms and such (if losing fat is your goal), you probably WILL have visible muscle.
Hmmm... well, I have no choice about the hay bales, feed sacks and firewood ( unless I want to freeze while the horses starve), so I better stick to hay bales ( 150 reps., pick up, carry to hay trailer, stack up to 4 rows high --used to be I could only do 3 rows--50 to 75-80 lbs. each) and not go near a weight rack. Don't want to end up looking like an ageing She-Hulk.0 -
Why don't women lift heavy? Let's see...
Because we don't want to?
Because we don't want to build visible muscle? ( I sure don't!)
Because we don't need to, so why should we bother?
All perfectly valid reasons.
Don't want to: okay, sure. But if you're lifting 2.5 pounds 100 times, you're not actually doing anything. If you're doing something else and it works for you, fine. Whatever. But at least be educated and not waste time.
Don't want to build visible muscle: Er, okay. If that's your thing. But what do you mean by visible muscle? Do you want some sort of tone or do you just want a 'thinner' body where nothing at all has any definition or 'tone'? If it's the former, lifting will do that - you won't get huge. If you want to be soft all over with no definition, definitely your choice, so I guess keep on keeping on.
Don't need to: you don't need to exercise at all, yep, so I guess that's true.
I find those reasons bizarre, but whatever floats your boat.
For myself, I guess I mean no bulgy he-man type muscle. I do enough farm work to be quite strong for my age and gender, just don't want bulky.0 -
Hmmm... well, I have no choice about the hay bales, feed sacks and firewood ( unless I want to freeze while the horses starve), so I better stick to hay bales ( 150 reps., pick up, carry to hay trailer, stack up to 4 rows high --used to be I could only do 3 rows--50 to 75-80 lbs. each) and not go near a weight rack. Don't want to end up looking like an ageing She-Hulk.
And that's the POINT....you won't look like a she-hulk by lifting. It takes some significant effort beyond just lifting weights to get that bodybuilder physique and you have to actively pursue it. So you may want to re-evaluate adding in a strength training program, because it won't make you a she-hulk. It really, really won't -- and that's what so many of us have been saying in this thread - too many women think like you do, that you'll get all bulky and stuff, and you won't!
Now, those lifting light because that's all they can do at that moment, that's fine - and it will be obvious to anyone with any gym experience that you are following a strength program like SL 5x5 because you aren't just poofing away for an hour on one movement with super light weights, but you are using super light weights and struggling to do your reps. No shame in the latter AT ALL....I'm a forty-something fat woman who is stronger than she looks but isn't that strong, so it's not like I've got massive weights on the bars right now! It's just obvious that I'm building up and doing the most I can.0 -
Why don't women lift heavy? Let's see...
Because we don't want to?
Because we don't want to build visible muscle? ( I sure don't!)
Because we don't need to, so why should we bother?
All perfectly valid reasons.
Don't want to: okay, sure. But if you're lifting 2.5 pounds 100 times, you're not actually doing anything. If you're doing something else and it works for you, fine. Whatever. But at least be educated and not waste time.
Don't want to build visible muscle: Er, okay. If that's your thing. But what do you mean by visible muscle? Do you want some sort of tone or do you just want a 'thinner' body where nothing at all has any definition or 'tone'? If it's the former, lifting will do that - you won't get huge. If you want to be soft all over with no definition, definitely your choice, so I guess keep on keeping on.
Don't need to: you don't need to exercise at all, yep, so I guess that's true.
I find those reasons bizarre, but whatever floats your boat.
For myself, I guess I mean no bulgy he-man type muscle. I do enough farm work to be quite strong for my age and gender, just don't want bulky.
That's pretty much the point of this thread. To debunk the misconception that lifting heavy will make you "bulky".
As for me, I just bought the NROLFW on my lunch break. Plan on getting started tonight. :-)0 -
Because they are uneducated about the benefits of lifting heavy. Because they believe myths. Because they are intimidated. etc. etc. etc.0
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They haven't educated themselves on the benefits of lifting and are afraid to get bulky :ohwell:0
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For all the ladies that have responded that they "didn't know".. I'd like to get your thoughts on an idea.
I've been considering the prospect of developing a 4-6 session course that covers weight lifting basics. Basically, my idea is to cover the anatomy and physiology of the body as it pertains to lifting. At the same time, I would like to introduce exercises that work said body part using body weight, machines, dumbbells and barbells.
So, for example, we'd discuss the muscles of the legs, how they work and what they do. Then, we'd make a circuit around the gym with everyone trying out the different equipment that works that body part, doing a form check and answering any questions.
I'm not a personal trainer, but I have done training of various types for many years (motorcycle, martial arts, ESL, etc). While I think that personal trainers are great, I've come to realize that all too often, they simply analyze a person, say "do this" and leave it at that. There is rarely any real "education" going on. I think this is wrong.
Anyway.. what are your thoughts on something like this so I can decide if its worth developing in the future?
I would love something like this. If you come to Montreal I would be happy to be your Guinea Pig!0 -
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That's pretty much the point of this thread. To debunk the misconception that lifting heavy will make you "bulky".
As for me, I just bought the NROLFW on my lunch break. Plan on getting started tonight. :-)
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I just bought it also. I have lifted on and off but haven't really pushed myself to my max. I am hoping this book will help me get there.0 -
Hmmm... well, I have no choice about the hay bales, feed sacks and firewood ( unless I want to freeze while the horses starve), so I better stick to hay bales ( 150 reps., pick up, carry to hay trailer, stack up to 4 rows high --used to be I could only do 3 rows--50 to 75-80 lbs. each) and not go near a weight rack. Don't want to end up looking like an ageing She-Hulk.
And that's the POINT....you won't look like a she-hulk by lifting. It takes some significant effort beyond just lifting weights to get that bodybuilder physique and you have to actively pursue it. So you may want to re-evaluate adding in a strength training program, because it won't make you a she-hulk. It really, really won't -- and that's what so many of us have been saying in this thread - too many women think like you do, that you'll get all bulky and stuff, and you won't!
Now, those lifting light because that's all they can do at that moment, that's fine - and it will be obvious to anyone with any gym experience that you are following a strength program like SL 5x5 because you aren't just poofing away for an hour on one movement with super light weights, but you are using super light weights and struggling to do your reps. No shame in the latter AT ALL....I'm a forty-something fat woman who is stronger than she looks but isn't that strong, so it's not like I've got massive weights on the bars right now! It's just obvious that I'm building up and doing the most I can.
But if I can already do what I just described, why would I want to add strength training? What's the point? It's certainly not enjoyable......0 -
I don't simply because I cant.
Just because I was lugging around 50 bags of 50lbs worth of wood pellets yesterday (true story) does not mean that I can deadlift 50lbs, or squat with 50 lbs, or bench press 50 lbs. I am working on it, but I am still using 5-8 lbs for overhead shoulder press.
I do want to lift heavier and get "bulky" but I am not there yet. Those 5-8 lbs are heavy for me.
FYI: I am having a mechanic at work cut me a piece of pipe to use to start training for barbells.0 -
I definitely think it's because most women buy into the myth that heavy weights bulk you up.
I only recently started lifting weights. I was nervous at first but now I can bicep curl 15 pounds. May not sound impressive but it's a huge improvement for someone who's infamous for having little to no upper body strength. ) I hope to be able to curl 25 pounds by summer. I'm not seeing any bulk but there is a lot more definition than there'd been before.
Go heavy or go home! )0 -
Some due to misinformation and some just simply want to lift light. Like some like cardio and some do not.
To each their own.0 -
I guess I fall into the wimpy woman category. I have a coworker who is a bodybuilder. I asked him what I could use for weight to add to my squats. He suggested I use a 25 lb kettle bell to start, and to do four sets of 15 reps each. I do just that and I do it twice a day. I find that by the time I have finished the fourth set, my legs are aching and I'm not sure I could do more without potentially hurting myself. In between those sets of 15, I do four sets of ten push-ups for the morning routine and I do four sets of lifting the kettle bell straight up in front of me (from having it hang straight down and raising it up to chin level).
So is that not lifting heavy, although I find it heavy for me?0 -
I think it's just in some ladies' minds that they "can't."
I'm going to make myself look kind of dumb by telling this story. I've been lifting weights since last summer. The other day, I was loading up some machines with 45lbs....I was putting on a 25, and two 10 plates. My husband looked at me and said: "Why aren't you using the 45lb plate? You can pick up a 40lb box of cat litter...why are you doing this?" I just told him: "I can't pick-up the 45 lb plate."
So, I realized I was being dumb, b/c I was picking-up 45lbs...just with 3 different plates. The next day, I went right into the gym and grabbed a 45 lb plate and started loading away.
I also don't want to "hurt myself." Again, I think I'm being dumb.0 -
Hmmm... well, I have no choice about the hay bales, feed sacks and firewood ( unless I want to freeze while the horses starve), so I better stick to hay bales ( 150 reps., pick up, carry to hay trailer, stack up to 4 rows high --used to be I could only do 3 rows--50 to 75-80 lbs. each) and not go near a weight rack. Don't want to end up looking like an ageing She-Hulk.
And that's the POINT....you won't look like a she-hulk by lifting. It takes some significant effort beyond just lifting weights to get that bodybuilder physique and you have to actively pursue it. So you may want to re-evaluate adding in a strength training program, because it won't make you a she-hulk. It really, really won't -- and that's what so many of us have been saying in this thread - too many women think like you do, that you'll get all bulky and stuff, and you won't!
Now, those lifting light because that's all they can do at that moment, that's fine - and it will be obvious to anyone with any gym experience that you are following a strength program like SL 5x5 because you aren't just poofing away for an hour on one movement with super light weights, but you are using super light weights and struggling to do your reps. No shame in the latter AT ALL....I'm a forty-something fat woman who is stronger than she looks but isn't that strong, so it's not like I've got massive weights on the bars right now! It's just obvious that I'm building up and doing the most I can.
But if I can already do what I just described, why would I want to add strength training? What's the point? It's certainly not enjoyable......
You are living proof that "lifting" doesn't make a woman bulky. Good for you that you use your muscles in the work you do (not being a smart azz... I mean it sincerely) and that hard work is going to do your body a lot of good.
I am often chained to a desk. No hay bales for this city girl. So I have to supplement my workout with weights.0 -
I was the opposite, my trainer put me on light weights to start, and I would give him funny looks, so he'd bump me up. But to be honest, i didn't want to go too heavy cause I don't want a body builders body. They are stunning bodies, but I just want a toned body, not ripply arms, legs and even abs, I want a flat tummy, but not rippled. But thats just me0
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Women can do whatever they like ... those that judge need to look at themselves.0
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I was the opposite, my trainer put me on light weights to start, and I would give him funny looks, so he'd bump me up. But to be honest, i didn't want to go too heavy cause I don't want a body builders body. They are stunning bodies, but I just want a toned body, not ripply arms, legs and even abs, I want a flat tummy, but not rippled. But thats just me
You have to have VERY low body fat to get the shredded / ripped look.
ETA: it's cool if you don't want to lift. But if you saw many of the ladies who lift, you really wouldn't realize that they did. You'd think that they just don't look jiggly.0 -
OK I'm sorry but if you're on a weight loss journey the best thing you can do is lift weights... so...
Oh, and this was for the lady who said that people don't want to or need to.0 -
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I have so much to learn I really want to ask this dude in the gym to show me how to dead lift cuz he knows what he is doing! The prob is he is 19 and I am almost forty and I don't want to be the creepy old mom asking the kids questions.
Please, please, please just ask the dude. He's not going to think you're the creepy old mom -- he's going to be completely flattered that someone wants him to teach her something. Especially someone older than him. Especially on a subject he's probably really knowledgeable about and probably a little proud about. Maybe especially a woman (but don't let that give you pause). Wait for a break between lifts he's doing, and then just walk up and say something like "I've wanted to try deadlifting but don't really know how to do so effectively or safely. Would you be willing to spend a few minutes helping me get my form right?"
You'll be surprised what sorts of responses you get from complete strangers when you genuinely and openly ask for help and advice (this applies across life - not just weightlifting form in the gym). And yeah, occasionally some douchenozzle will respond rudely or negatively; but that's pretty rare; and you otherwise miss out so much if you're not willing to just speak up and ask. Get past the fear and do it -- it really is a surprising life lesson once you get started with it. All in my opinion and experience of course :flowerforyou:0 -
i didn't want to go too heavy cause I don't want a body builders body.
To quote the wisdom of Reddit:
This is like saying, "I don't want to read too much because I don't want to accidentally get a PhD."
Or maybe, "I don't want to take up jogging, because I might accidentally become an Olympic runner."0 -
I have been telling myself to start lifting, but haven't yet.
Because I am nervous! I'm NOT nervous of getting "bulky" or anything like that, because I know that that isn't the case. I am nervous because there is no personal training at my gym, and I don't have a workout buddy...so I am afraid to start lifting alone. How will I be 100% that my form is correct so that I don't hurt myself? What if I drop a barbell on my neck? I am very eager to start lifting, but may have to hire an outside PT, buy them a day pass, and have them come in to my gym to show me all the correct forms while I'm doing it. I could ask one of the many guys at the gym (I never see girls in the free weights) but I'm really shy and worried that no one would take "the fat girl" seriously and show her how to lift properly.
So... until then... I will keep lifting my 15lb dumbbells lol.0 -
To answer for myself, I do not lift heavy, and prefer lower weight more repetitions, for the same several reasons that so do several professional trainers and athletes, female AND male btw, including a male trainer I work with who happens to also be a martial arts athlete:
Because building muscle volume is not the goal for everyone and not everyone even likes the result
Because circuit training, with more repetitions/duration rather than increasing weights is good exercise for toning and keeping in shape, and for many is far more enjoyable than heavy lifting
I do not lift just 2 kgs dumbells, but I have no desire to work on 100 kgs either. Same as I do not like skiing, or dancing. It is just a matter of preference.
And to reverse the question, I always wonder why many guys spend their days lifitng weights, and have very little to no cardio training. In most intense cardio classes, men are either completely absent or a minority, and it this is something I cannot understand at all, especially since these are the classes I consider personally really fun0
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