Vegetarians

HikerRR50
HikerRR50 Posts: 144 Member
Okay so last post still failed to address my question. I take the blame on this as I worded it poorly. I'm not looking to offend anyone and if you don't have a reason for why you do what you do that's fine with me but if you do have a logical reason please share so I can consider it and perhaps learn from it.

For the Vegetarians that do eat animal bi products(eggs, cheese, etc.) but do not eat the meat of same animal based on it being cruel to kill the animal for meat.

Please help me understand why there is a difference?

It is my current understanding that both are raised and treated the same way.

Not looking to argue the right or wrong of it I just don't understand the logic.

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  • salembambi
    salembambi Posts: 5,585 Member
    I was vegetarian for about 12 years before I went vegan

    I was ignorant of the dairy/egg/veal industry and that is why I did not go vegan sooner

    when I found out about it I went vegan immediately seriously that exact hour booom

    now as for other people who are vegetarian I dont know

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  • HikerRR50
    HikerRR50 Posts: 144 Member
    I was vegetarian for about 12 years before I went vegan

    I was ignorant of the dairy/egg/veal industry and that is why I did not go vegan sooner

    when I found out about it I went vegan immediately seriously that exact hour booom

    now as for other people who are vegetarian I dont know

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    This is the exact logical jump I would expect and makes perfect sense to me. It's not for me but I can see your point of view as logical.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    heh- did she not answer in the actual thread what was up with that? I couldn't be bothered to hunt it down.
  • HikerRR50
    HikerRR50 Posts: 144 Member
    heh- did she not answer in the actual thread what was up with that? I couldn't be bothered to hunt it down.

    The vast majority of the replies to previous thread were just mostly ...how dare you judge or question my resoning for doing things....thats not what I was doing but okay.....I was just asking what the difference was....same chicken that lays the egg is eaten for wings too.
  • redwoodkestrel
    redwoodkestrel Posts: 339 Member
    Not everyone is vegetarian just based on animal rights. Some do it because of land use and the high toll meat ranching takes on the environment. Some do it for health reasons. Some just don't want an animal to die for them to have to eat. Etc.

    I kind of come at it from a standpoint of what I would personally be willing to do to an animal. I've raised chickens and eaten their eggs. I've milked cows and goats. I've turned that milk into butter and cheese. I've gone fishing and crabbing and eaten the animals I catch (I was vegetarian for 15 years, but now consider myself more pescatarian - but still with a mostly vegetarian diet). So far though, I'm not willing to go hunting for mammals or birds.

    I'd prefer it if I could raise most of the food - especially animal products - that I eat. Unfortunately that's not feasible for me currently. So I do my best to make the right (for me) choices when I shop, usually purchasing local, organic, free-range/cage-free whenever I can. Luckily I'm near quite a few local farms, so it's not as hard as it could be! :smile:

    I'd like to (re)iterate though that I 100% support people making their own food choices. I'm not a preachy vegetarian. I'm only talking about this because there is a thread asking about it, NOT to cause any sort of debate. Thanks.
  • some_betty
    some_betty Posts: 322 Member
    I am a vegetarian sometimes when I get guilty over Carbon Footprints.
  • JennaViolet
    JennaViolet Posts: 11 Member
    I think that everybody should be conscious of their carbon footprint regardless of whether they're vegetarian or not because that's something that affects the plant and all species living on it. (I hope that didn't sound argumentative because I am agreeing :D)

    To reply to the post:

    I think vegetarians who still eat dairy and eggs don't see it as a problem because no animal gets harmed in the process (the eggs are unfertilised of course) and generally as long as the animals are free-range then they don't have a problem.
    But some people don't agree with animals being farmed at all and there are stories (I need to research this for more info and whether it's true) that the young calves have nothing to drink if their mothers are being milked for us and so they're sent off to the slaughter house prematurely. Or something like that. I'm not sure how true that is because it sounds unstable as no young would ever grow to an adult. But I've heard that from some vegans.

    It's considered a vegan thing to not wear leather or fur, but I think that suits vegetarian principles too as animals directly die for that, so vegetarians shouldn't wear fur/leather either if they're really serious about it.

    I hope this helps.
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
    So are you vegetarian or vegan OP?
  • Rocbola
    Rocbola Posts: 1,998 Member
    A lot of vegetarians would like to be vegan, but have a cheese addiction.

    Also, a lot of vegetarians don't realize how cruelly dairy cows, veal cows (part of the dairy industry) and chickens get treated unless they are willing to seek out the info.
  • HikerRR50
    HikerRR50 Posts: 144 Member
    So are you vegetarian or vegan OP?

    Neither I'm just hoping to open some of the moral reasoned vegetarians eyes in regards to animal bi products. very few chicken die of old age...

    I only eat meat once or twice a month just due to cost/health. Pretty much whole foods - just what works for me.
  • mank32
    mank32 Posts: 1,323 Member
    only makes sense if you get 'cruelty-free' eggs, milk, etc. good luck with that. raise your own chickens, dairy cows if you want that. i used to buy 'cruelty-free' ghee (indian staple: clarified butter; 'Purity Farms' i think's the brand). easy enough to find cruelty-free indian- and/or buddhist-oriented items if you know where to look. so, they claim the animals are treated ethically. :shrug: no way to really know unless you raise your own.
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
    So are you vegetarian or vegan OP?

    Neither I'm just hoping to open some of the moral reasoned vegetarians eyes in regards to animal bi products. very few chicken die of old age...

    I only eat meat once or twice a month just due to cost/health. Pretty much whole foods - just what works for me.

    Then why does it matter if you aren't vegetarian or vegan?
  • salembambi
    salembambi Posts: 5,585 Member
    A lot of vegetarians would like to be vegan, but have a cheese addiction.

    Also, a lot of vegetarians don't realize how cruelly dairy cows, veal cows (part of the dairy industry) and chickens get treated unless they are willing to seek out the info.

    they need to meet daiya vegan cheese products and geto ver it but I agree with you its willful ignorance most of the time