Starvation Mode

bring on the haters who will disagree.. but makes enough sense to me

http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/starvation-mode/

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  • Fedup23
    Fedup23 Posts: 80 Member
    That about covers it, and this post will do no good. ;-)
  • peleroja
    peleroja Posts: 3,979 Member
    Three cheers for you! I'm saving this link.
  • allana1111
    allana1111 Posts: 390 Member
    That about covers it, and this post will do no good. ;-)

    I know, everyone gets really riled up about it but its so clear
  • lemonsnowdrop
    lemonsnowdrop Posts: 1,298 Member
    The thing about "starvation mode" is that you would have to have virtually NO body fat left to have your metabolism slow down to the point of no weight loss. Nothing left to lose. As the article states, people here tend to think, "Oh, I've been eating 1,110 calories a day for a month, I'm not losing weight because my body is in starvation mode!" It takes a significant amount of time to starve your body. Not saying it won't happen, but cutting calories will never make you not lose weight.
  • Jenky85
    Jenky85 Posts: 190 Member
    Thanks for this...I've always sat uneasily with the 'starvation mode' theory
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    bring on the haters who will disagree.. but makes enough sense to me

    http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/starvation-mode/
    "Basically, you’re eating more calories than you think you are, burning less calories than you think you are, or both… and no deficit is present."
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  • bethlaf
    bethlaf Posts: 954 Member
    rawr rawr rawr...
  • eddiesmith1
    eddiesmith1 Posts: 1,550 Member
    thanks for that

    People still won't believe it
  • allana1111
    allana1111 Posts: 390 Member
    Thanks for this...I've always sat uneasily with the 'starvation mode' theory

    me too.. I've gone back and forth with it a lot because I knew it didn't seem possible to happen that quickly but people on here always told me that's what was happening on 1200 calories
  • Memorableheart
    Memorableheart Posts: 69 Member
    Thank you for this link.
  • JoanneC1216
    JoanneC1216 Posts: 166
    It's a very interesting article. I always wondered how anorexics were able to become so thin with so little calories if starvation mode actually existed.
  • eddiesmith1
    eddiesmith1 Posts: 1,550 Member
    It's a very interesting article. I always wondered how anorexics were able to become so thin with so little calories if starvation mode actually existed.

    or for that matter how the many died in concentration camps from starvation
  • 1pandabear
    1pandabear Posts: 336 Member
  • allana1111
    allana1111 Posts: 390 Member
    It's a very interesting article. I always wondered how anorexics were able to become so thin with so little calories if starvation mode actually existed.

    or for that matter how the many died in concentration camps from starvation

    yeah no *kitten*
  • Thanks a lot for this! maybe people will now get it through their thick skulls *ohh eating to less will cause you to go into starvation mode* what a load of BS!
  • Ortax
    Ortax Posts: 98
    Your body can't outrun a calorie deficit, therefore starvation mode doesn't exist. It doesn't make any sense for your body to "hold onto fat" when you're starving.
  • JonnyQwest
    JonnyQwest Posts: 174 Member
    It is a real phenomenon but it should be called something else.....of course if you are eating practically nothing then you are going to lose weight so the concentration camp analogy is a stupid one to point to because no one here should be starving themselves to lose weight. Starvation mode is just simply your bodies metabolic rate slowing to a crawl. Every single time I have lost a lot of weight I have been able to directly correlate my slow down/halt of weight loss with verifiable changes in my blood pressure, heart rate and temperature.....it always happens about 10 pounds shy of my goal weight.
    Pretty much where I am at right now.....my resting heart rate has been in 40's!!, blood pressure around 110/60 and body temperature has gone down to an average of around 96.5. In response, I have started increasing my calorie count by about 300 to 400 a day to around 1600 a day for the past couple of weeks and I am having incredible workouts as a result....energy level through the roof and resting heart rate is slowly increasing to around the low 50's....still very low but better. Weight loss has slowly started back up....going to keep it up and be patient because at the end of the day, it's about how you look, feel, etc....and I feel great!
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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    bring on the haters who will disagree.. but makes enough sense to me

    http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/starvation-mode/
    Haters?

    I LOVE you for posting a great article.
  • SugaryLynx
    SugaryLynx Posts: 2,640 Member
    Yay! I love this article ♡
  • Arranna1212
    Arranna1212 Posts: 143 Member
    Thank you for the post :)
  • craftywitch_63
    craftywitch_63 Posts: 829 Member
    It's a very interesting article. I always wondered how anorexics were able to become so thin with so little calories if starvation mode actually existed.

    or for that matter how the many died in concentration camps from starvation

    Yeah, but if there is no "starvation mode" then why is the WHO worried that starving people in Ethiopia are so obese . . . oh, wait that the US not Ethiopia! :noway:
  • FaunalFantasy
    FaunalFantasy Posts: 47 Member
    I broke the dreaded "never go below 1200" calories rule a month ago and magically started loosing half a pound a week after months and several different attempts at loosing weight on 1200 calories. I have a friend with dwarfism who is not supposed to eat more than 900 calories a day to maintain her weight, which made me think that at my height of 5'2" I could drop to 1100 calories without entering the touted starvation mode. I am tired of trying to explain to people that I not anorexic (which always makes you sound even more anorexic).
  • s4naz
    s4naz Posts: 86 Member
    thank you for this!
  • ComradeTovarich
    ComradeTovarich Posts: 495 Member
    bring on the haters who will disagree.. but makes enough sense to me

    http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/starvation-mode/

    "And yet you — someone who is likely a normal weight, overweight, or obese person NOWHERE NEAR THIS STATE who will NEVER BE ANYWHERE NEAR THIS STATE who’s trying to lose anywhere from 5 to 200 pounds of body fat to look prettier in your swimsuit — thinks this somehow applies to you? HA!"

    10/10 read.

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  • valmaebel
    valmaebel Posts: 1,045 Member
    To be honest, I find a lot of the arguments between the two "camps" to be semantic. It seems like the are people on both sides who know what they're talking about but use different terms. For example, in this article he rails against "starvation mode" but then warns against "starvation response". The dangers he lists under starvation response is what I've heard others list as being starvation mode. So basically, both understand the concept but are using different terms for it.

    I thought the article has some fantastic points...but the title and intro is a bit aggressive and would probably put off those who actually need to hear it. For those who actually advocate for the "starvation mode" are hardly apt to read all the way through this article and discover the author actually agrees with them on many counts, and honestly I'm not sure what has him so upset. Yes, I agree that to say you will never lose weight if you have too high a deficit is ludicrous. But it also isn't nearly as dangerous as those who go to far under (dangerous not because it will lead to a lack of weight loses...but because it will lead to all other health issues instead).

    Basically, this should be a lifestyle..not a diet. It should be something you can realistically maintain. It should not make life a misery and living hell but instead should open up new doors and opportunities. A moderate deficit is USUALLY better at reaching these goals than a more drastic one. As for the never go under 1200...most of the threads I've seen advocated looking at your BMR and calculating based on your individual size, age, and sex to determine your caloric intake. They were fighting against the idea that 1200 is a magic number (another dangerous catch phrase...that some magical number will work for everyone). It's not. Everyone is different and some will do well under that...but far more would be more successful if they were above that. Weight loss and (even more so) healthy living is not cookie cutter and the sooner people figure that out, the better.