Only fruit&veggies during day w/ protein @ night

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  • caroldavison332
    caroldavison332 Posts: 864 Member
    How about hard boiling eggs for a week day protein pick up. Or scramble one. Or peanut butter on oatmeal or fruit or veg. On a less than 1200 calorie diet your body learns to survive on starvation input but you won't loose weight.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.
    Oh lawd, All carbs make glucose, even protein can make glucose
  • motivatedmartha
    motivatedmartha Posts: 1,108 Member
    Add some people who are happy to have their food diary open to friends - it's a very useful way of getting ideas as to the different ways of structuring your eating during the day. Some people have huge breakfasts and smaller meals - some have no breakfast and a big dinner. Find a way that suits your lifestyle. It's a good way of collecting meal ideas and seeing how you can better balance your macros eg eating enough Protein is an issue for me so I gather ideas about protein rich menus.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.

    Insulin is a fat storage hormone.
    I like how this is the one thing some people latch on to about insulin
    http://www.ericcressey.com/understanding-insulin
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.

    Insulin is a fat storage hormone.
    I like how this is the one thing some people latch on to about insulin
    http://www.ericcressey.com/understanding-insulin


    This is a good one also. http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.

    Insulin is a fat storage hormone.

    How do you store fat on a caloric deficit?
  • hesn92
    hesn92 Posts: 5,966 Member
    veggies and fruits do count, so you are eating more than 500 to 800 calories. And a lot of fruits actually have a lot of calories. A banana has about 100 or more, watermelon has quite a lot, so do avocados...
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.

    Insulin is a fat storage hormone.
    I like how this is the one thing some people latch on to about insulin
    http://www.ericcressey.com/understanding-insulin

    Considering I have insulin resistance, I know what I'm talking about.

    The more insulin you have floating around, the bigger your stomach is going to get.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.

    Insulin is a fat storage hormone.
    I like how this is the one thing some people latch on to about insulin
    http://www.ericcressey.com/understanding-insulin

    Considering I have insulin resistance, I know what I'm talking about.

    The more insulin you have floating around, the bigger your stomach is going to get.

    Did you even read the links?

    Answer me this...how do you store fat in a caloric deficit.

    Also, why are you assuming that everyone is insulin resistant, even if that did cause you to store fat, which it does not at a deficit?
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.

    Insulin is a fat storage hormone.
    I like how this is the one thing some people latch on to about insulin
    http://www.ericcressey.com/understanding-insulin

    Considering I have insulin resistance, I know what I'm talking about.

    The more insulin you have floating around, the bigger your stomach is going to get.

    No, no you do not.

    Oh right, I forgot. You know me so well!
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.

    Insulin is a fat storage hormone.
    I like how this is the one thing some people latch on to about insulin
    http://www.ericcressey.com/understanding-insulin

    Considering I have insulin resistance, I know what I'm talking about.

    The more insulin you have floating around, the bigger your stomach is going to get.

    No, no you do not.

    Oh right, I forgot. You know me so well!


    I know that you do not know what you are talking about.

    ETA my prior edits:

    Did you even read the links?

    Answer me this...how do you store fat in a caloric deficit.

    Also, why are you assuming that everyone is insulin resistant, even if that did cause you to store fat, which it does not at a deficit?
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.

    Insulin is a fat storage hormone.
    I like how this is the one thing some people latch on to about insulin
    http://www.ericcressey.com/understanding-insulin

    Considering I have insulin resistance, I know what I'm talking about.

    The more insulin you have floating around, the bigger your stomach is going to get.

    No, no you do not.

    Oh right, I forgot. You know me so well!


    I know that you do not know what you are talking about.

    ETA my prior edits:

    Did you even read the links?

    Answer me this...how do you store fat in a caloric deficit.

    Also, why are you assuming that everyone is insulin resistant, even if that did cause you to store fat, which it does not at a deficit?

    I'm not assuming. All I said was insulin is a hormone that stores fat, which is absolutely 100% true.

    I did eat at a deficit and I STILL stored fat. It is all part of having the condition.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.

    Insulin is a fat storage hormone.
    I like how this is the one thing some people latch on to about insulin
    http://www.ericcressey.com/understanding-insulin

    Considering I have insulin resistance, I know what I'm talking about.

    The more insulin you have floating around, the bigger your stomach is going to get.

    No, no you do not.

    Oh right, I forgot. You know me so well!


    I know that you do not know what you are talking about.

    ETA my prior edits:

    Did you even read the links?

    Answer me this...how do you store fat in a caloric deficit.

    Also, why are you assuming that everyone is insulin resistant, even if that did cause you to store fat, which it does not at a deficit?

    I'm not assuming. All I said was insulin is a hormone that stores fat, which is absolutely 100% true.

    I did eat at a deficit and I STILL stored fat. It is all part of having the condition.

    Lol, you gained weight at a deficit? ok then

    ETA: better stop eating protein then!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.

    Insulin is a fat storage hormone.
    I like how this is the one thing some people latch on to about insulin
    http://www.ericcressey.com/understanding-insulin

    Considering I have insulin resistance, I know what I'm talking about.

    The more insulin you have floating around, the bigger your stomach is going to get.

    No, no you do not.

    Oh right, I forgot. You know me so well!


    I know that you do not know what you are talking about.

    ETA my prior edits:

    Did you even read the links?

    Answer me this...how do you store fat in a caloric deficit.

    Also, why are you assuming that everyone is insulin resistant, even if that did cause you to store fat, which it does not at a deficit?

    I'm not assuming. All I said was insulin is a hormone that stores fat, which is absolutely 100% true.

    I did eat at a deficit and I STILL stored fat. It is all part of having the condition.

    oh, you again ..

    out/
  • donyellemoniquex3
    donyellemoniquex3 Posts: 2,384 Member
    smh
  • EatTrainWin
    EatTrainWin Posts: 13 Member
    So at the end of the day I'm usually in between 500 and 800 calories, and I'm never hungry.

    Is that an okay way to look at it?

    Absolutely not! 500 - 800 calories is an extremely bad idea.
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.

    Insulin is a fat storage hormone.
    I like how this is the one thing some people latch on to about insulin
    http://www.ericcressey.com/understanding-insulin

    Considering I have insulin resistance, I know what I'm talking about.

    The more insulin you have floating around, the bigger your stomach is going to get.

    No, no you do not.

    Oh right, I forgot. You know me so well!


    I know that you do not know what you are talking about.

    ETA my prior edits:

    Did you even read the links?

    Answer me this...how do you store fat in a caloric deficit.

    Also, why are you assuming that everyone is insulin resistant, even if that did cause you to store fat, which it does not at a deficit?

    I'm not assuming. All I said was insulin is a hormone that stores fat, which is absolutely 100% true.

    I did eat at a deficit and I STILL stored fat. It is all part of having the condition.

    Lol, you gained weight at a deficit? ok then

    ETA: better stop eating protein then!

    Let me inform you… Individuals with insulin resistance have a diminished ability to respond to insulin. Normal amounts of insulin are inadequate to produce a normal insulin response from fat, muscle and liver cells. In order to compensate, the pancreas produces more insulin. Consequently, the process where glucose passes through the cell wall via insulin to be converted into energy is highly impaired. As a result, excess glucose remains in the blood stream, causing elevated levels of blood sugar. This is sent to the liver. Once there, the sugar is converted into fat and carried through the blood stream throughout the body. This process leads to weight gain.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.

    Insulin is a fat storage hormone.
    I like how this is the one thing some people latch on to about insulin
    http://www.ericcressey.com/understanding-insulin

    Considering I have insulin resistance, I know what I'm talking about.

    The more insulin you have floating around, the bigger your stomach is going to get.

    No, no you do not.

    Oh right, I forgot. You know me so well!


    I know that you do not know what you are talking about.

    ETA my prior edits:

    Did you even read the links?

    Answer me this...how do you store fat in a caloric deficit.

    Also, why are you assuming that everyone is insulin resistant, even if that did cause you to store fat, which it does not at a deficit?

    I'm not assuming. All I said was insulin is a hormone that stores fat, which is absolutely 100% true.

    I did eat at a deficit and I STILL stored fat. It is all part of having the condition.

    Lol, you gained weight at a deficit? ok then

    ETA: better stop eating protein then!

    Let me inform you… insulin resistance reduces the sensitivity of your cell walls to insulin. Individuals with insulin resistance have a diminished ability to respond to insulin. Normal amounts of insulin are inadequate to produce a normal insulin response from fat, muscle and liver cells. In order to compensate, the pancreas produces more insulin. Consequently, the process where glucose passes through the cell wall via insulin to be converted into energy is highly impaired. As a result, excess glucose remains in the blood stream, causing elevated levels of blood sugar. This is sent to the liver. Once there, the sugar is converted into fat and carried through the blood stream throughout the body. This process leads to weight gain.

    I know what insulin resistance is, and it still does not mean that you gain weight in a caloric deficit. Again, please read the links.
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.

    Insulin is a fat storage hormone.
    I like how this is the one thing some people latch on to about insulin
    http://www.ericcressey.com/understanding-insulin

    Considering I have insulin resistance, I know what I'm talking about.

    The more insulin you have floating around, the bigger your stomach is going to get.

    No, no you do not.

    Oh right, I forgot. You know me so well!


    I know that you do not know what you are talking about.

    ETA my prior edits:

    Did you even read the links?

    Answer me this...how do you store fat in a caloric deficit.

    Also, why are you assuming that everyone is insulin resistant, even if that did cause you to store fat, which it does not at a deficit?

    I'm not assuming. All I said was insulin is a hormone that stores fat, which is absolutely 100% true.

    I did eat at a deficit and I STILL stored fat. It is all part of having the condition.

    Lol, you gained weight at a deficit? ok then

    ETA: better stop eating protein then!

    Let me inform you… insulin resistance reduces the sensitivity of your cell walls to insulin. Individuals with insulin resistance have a diminished ability to respond to insulin. Normal amounts of insulin are inadequate to produce a normal insulin response from fat, muscle and liver cells. In order to compensate, the pancreas produces more insulin. Consequently, the process where glucose passes through the cell wall via insulin to be converted into energy is highly impaired. As a result, excess glucose remains in the blood stream, causing elevated levels of blood sugar. This is sent to the liver. Once there, the sugar is converted into fat and carried through the blood stream throughout the body. This process leads to weight gain.

    I know what insulin resistance is, and it still does not mean that you gain weight in a caloric deficit. Again, please read the links.

    I'm living proof that you gain weight eating at a caloric deficit. Along with many other individuals here.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Veggies DO count and fruit is not low in calories ans natural sugars but sugars none the less. Sugars make glucose that triggers the body to store fat.

    Every thing counts. Moderation is key.

    Insulin is a fat storage hormone.
    I like how this is the one thing some people latch on to about insulin
    http://www.ericcressey.com/understanding-insulin

    Considering I have insulin resistance, I know what I'm talking about.

    The more insulin you have floating around, the bigger your stomach is going to get.

    No, no you do not.

    Oh right, I forgot. You know me so well!


    I know that you do not know what you are talking about.

    ETA my prior edits:

    Did you even read the links?

    Answer me this...how do you store fat in a caloric deficit.

    Also, why are you assuming that everyone is insulin resistant, even if that did cause you to store fat, which it does not at a deficit?

    I'm not assuming. All I said was insulin is a hormone that stores fat, which is absolutely 100% true.

    I did eat at a deficit and I STILL stored fat. It is all part of having the condition.

    Lol, you gained weight at a deficit? ok then

    ETA: better stop eating protein then!

    Let me inform you… insulin resistance reduces the sensitivity of your cell walls to insulin. Individuals with insulin resistance have a diminished ability to respond to insulin. Normal amounts of insulin are inadequate to produce a normal insulin response from fat, muscle and liver cells. In order to compensate, the pancreas produces more insulin. Consequently, the process where glucose passes through the cell wall via insulin to be converted into energy is highly impaired. As a result, excess glucose remains in the blood stream, causing elevated levels of blood sugar. This is sent to the liver. Once there, the sugar is converted into fat and carried through the blood stream throughout the body. This process leads to weight gain.

    I know what insulin resistance is, and it still does not mean that you gain weight in a caloric deficit. Again, please read the links.

    I'm living proof that you gain weight eating at a caloric deficit. Along with many other individuals here.

    lol - if you say so.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    1) Insulin is also a muscle protein synthesis hormone...why does it not get called that?
    2) Protein is insulinogenic - why are carbs always given the bad rap?
    3) BMR for people with insulin resistance is impacted, and impacted moreso by carbs - but you still need to eat at a surplus to gain weight.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    1) Insulin is also a muscle protein synthesis hormone...why does it not get called that?
    2) Protein is insulinogenic - why are carbs always given the bad rap?
    3) BMR for people with insulin resistance is impacted, and impacted moreso by carbs - but you still need to eat at a surplus to gain weight.

    I believe this ties in nicely to what you are saying:
    http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319