Can someone explain Oil Pulling?

lilRicki
lilRicki Posts: 4,555 Member
I keep reading about people doing "oil pulling" so of course I googled it. It seems interesting, does anyone do oil pulling? Pros and Cons?
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  • BlueBombers
    BlueBombers Posts: 4,064 Member
    I had to Google that one.
  • Chillyfrog
    Chillyfrog Posts: 207 Member
    I had to Google that one too. You have to swish oil around in your mouth for 20min? really? 20min!? :huh: I think I'll stick to just brushing my teeth and drinking lots of water.

    http://news.discovery.com/human/psychology/can-oil-pulling-improve-your-health-140311.htm
  • lilRicki
    lilRicki Posts: 4,555 Member
    Is it a fad? it says "ancient india"...but seriously, so was blood letting. Is there more scientific data?
  • MrsK20141004
    MrsK20141004 Posts: 489 Member
    I had to Google that one too. You have to swish oil around in your mouth for 20min? really? 20min!? :huh: I think I'll stick to just brushing my teeth and drinking lots of water.

    Ditto.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    It's BS.

    /thread
  • rondaj05
    rondaj05 Posts: 497 Member
    I had to Google that one too. You have to swish oil around in your mouth for 20min? really? 20min!? :huh: I think I'll stick to just brushing my teeth and drinking lots of water.

    http://news.discovery.com/human/psychology/can-oil-pulling-improve-your-health-140311.htm

    A friend recently posted about this on FB... I just can't imagine swishing oil around in my mouth for 20 minutes. Ever. :sick:
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    http://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/11/11/oil-pulling-miracle-treatment-or-woo-mouthwash/

    http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/oil-pulling-your-leg/

    It's nonsense. There's some evidence that it has benefits for oral hygiene but that's likely just because of the motion of swishing and it isn't any more effective than using mouthwash. Any claims of other health benefits/"toxin" removal are completely bunk.
  • Yetta729
    Yetta729 Posts: 68 Member
    I am doing it, not daily though, using unrefined virgin sesame oil.
    I read that it helps with gum disease, so I tried and my gums do look way better and bleed way less.
    In the beginning I could do only one minute before I had to spit it out. I am up to 20 minutes now.

    For me: it works ... other might boohoo it as nonsense ... to each his own
  • lilRicki
    lilRicki Posts: 4,555 Member
    Thanx guys...I'm always sceptical about crap like that.
  • flyygirl802
    flyygirl802 Posts: 59 Member
    I don't do the swishing in my mouth, but I do wash my face with oil, which is loosely related to the same category. I use coconut oil and it does work wonders for your skin.
  • in_the_stars
    in_the_stars Posts: 1,395 Member
    Oil Pulling Your Leg
    Posted by Steven Novella on March 12, 2014 (32 Comments)

    Oil pulling is a traditional Ayurveda method of oral care. It involves swishing sesame oil or a similar oil, perhaps mixed with other substances, in the mouth for 10-20 minutes as a means of preventing caries (cavities), reducing bacteria, and promoting healthy gums. In our internet-fueled age of misinformation, oil pulling has seen a surge in popularity as it makes the rounds on Facebook and other popular social media sites.

    The proliferation of unscientific medical advice also essentially assured that oil pulling would be updated to incorporate the latest marketing memes in the alternative marketplace. It is therefore not surprising that this technique is being presented as a cure-all, treating all sorts of systemic diseases by allegedly pulling toxins from the mouth. The Wellness Mama (the first hit on Google) proclaims:

    Oil pulling is an age-old remedy that uses natural substances to clean and detoxify teeth and gums. It has the added effect of whitening teeth naturally and evidence even shows that it is beneficial in improving gums and removing harmful bacteria!


    Food Matters also gushes:

    It is believed that these oils help the lymphatic system of the body as harmful bacteria are removed and beneficial microflora are given with [sic] a healthy environment to flourish. Because of this holistic perspective, oil pulling has been used as a preventative health measure for many other conditions.

    This is followed by a long list of conditions from migraines to bronchitis.


    Oil pulling for dental care

    Using oil as a rinse for oral care in the time before modern medicine was perhaps not a bad idea, and does have a modicum of plausibility. Just the mechanical act of swishing any fluid around the mouth is likely to dislodge bits of food and clean the teeth. I wouldn’t recommend it over brushing your teeth, but it is probably better than nothing.

    Recently several researchers have done small pilot studies looking at the effects of oil pulling. Some are overtly trying to support traditional Indian treatments, but at least they are clear about their biases. In any case, these small studies show that swishing oil in the mouth daily does have an effect, unsurprisingly, on oral bacteria.

    A 2008 study by Asokan et al. found that a standard mouthwash containing chlorhexidine reduced Streptococcus mutans (a significant contributor to tooth decay) in plaque at all four time points measured (24 hours, 48 hours, 1 week and 2 weeks) and in the saliva in the latter three time points. The oil pulling group had reduced S. mutans only in plaque at one and two weeks. So the standard therapy, chlorhexidine, was superior to oil pulling in reducing S. mutans.

    A 2011 study also by Asokan published in an Indian journal found that oil pulling was equally effective to chlorhexidine in reducing halitosis and bacteria associated with halitosis.

    Asokan also investigated a possible mechanisms of action of oil pulling. He found:

    Sesamin and sesamolin isolated from sesame oil did not have any antibacterial effect against oral microorganisms like Streptococcus mutans, Streptococcus mitis and Streptococcus viridans. Emulsification of sesame oil occurs during oil-pulling therapy. Increased consumption of NaOH in titration is a definite indication of a possible saponification process.

    And concluded:

    The myth that the effect of oil-pulling therapy on oral health was just a placebo effect has been broken and there are clear indications of possible saponification and emulsification process, which enhances its mechanical cleaning action.

    It seems that rinsing with oil leaves oil in the oral cavity, and that swishing with oil can have a mechanical cleaning action.

    That also seems to be the extent of the peer-reviewed scientific literature on oiling pulling – a few preliminary studies by a single researcher with an apparent cultural bias. Even if researcher bias is put aside, the evidence is hardly overwhelming. If taken at face value it indicates that swishing with oil is helpful to oral health, probably just because of the mechanical cleaning (perhaps enhanced by oil emulsification), but is not as effective as standard modern therapy with mouth wash.

    Proponents of oil pulling do provide a few more references in obscure journals, but they do not show up on Pubmed even when searching by exact title and author names (which suggests the journals are not officially recognized as peer-reviewed). The studies show similar results – preliminary evidence that swishing with various oils reduces some bacteria, but not better than chlorhexidine.

    I did come across one other published paper on oil pulling – a report of recurrent lipoid pneumonia from oil pulling. Lipoid pneumonia is a chemical lung disease caused by aspirating (breathing in) small amounts of oil. The long duration of mouth swishing with oil recommended by oil pulling advocates may increase the risk of lipoid pneumonia as a complication. This is a good reminder that no matter how “natural” and “ancient” a treatment is, we should not assume it is entirely without risk.


    Oil pulling for general health

    While oil pulling may be a better-than-nothing alternative if you are stuck without modern dental care, there is no scientific basis in either plausibility or empirical evidence for any claims of benefits to general health. Of course, lack of plausibility and evidence is not a barrier to promotion by the alternative gurus.

    The claim here is that oil pulling removes “toxins” and harmful bacteria from the body through the oral cavity. Like all alleged detox treatments, specific toxins are never named or measured, nor is any specific causal link made to the specific diseases that are claimed to be treated.

    Proponents often refer to the preliminary studies above showing some effect for oral health, again probably just from the mechanical swishing, and then use that to claim that “oil pulling works,” followed by claims that it treats specific diseases and conditions for which there is no evidence. Dr. Bruce Fife, who wrote about recommending oil pulling, claims you should try it:

    If you suffer from asthma, diabetes, arthritis, migraine headaches, or any chronic illness,

    and

    All disease starts in the mouth!

    In the extreme oil pulling has become just another “one cure to cure them all” alternative pseudoscience.



    Conclusion

    Oil pulling is a suggestive misnomer, implying that something bad is being pulled from the mouth (toxins and bacteria). What little scientific evidence exists shows that it is probably not as effective as standard mouth wash, and what benefit it has is likely entirely due to the mechanical act of swishing to remove particles and bacteria from teeth and gums.

    There is no reason either theoretically or based upon any evidence to recommend oil pulling (which should be renamed “oil-swishing”) instead of standard modern health care with flossing, tooth-brushing, and mouth rinse. However, it does appear to be better than nothing, and might have a role in developing countries without access to modern oral care. The one caveat is that extended periods of swishing that are commonly recommended (10-20 minutes) are likely not necessary and further present a risk of lipoid pneumonia from accidentally breathing in small amounts of oil.

    Oil pulling for general health or any other indication is pure pseudoscience. Detox claims are based on nothing, as are all detox claims. There is no evidence or plausible rationale to recommend oil pulling for any indication other than as a poor substitute for oral care.

    *http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/oil-pulling-your-leg/
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    Thanx guys...I'm always sceptical about crap like that.

    It's always a good idea to try a search with "insert treatment/supplement + science based medicine" or "+ skeptoid" or "+ debunked."

    Snopes is a good resource too if you saw something on Facebook specifically.
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    I saw something about that for the first time this morning.

    I'm pretty sure it's hokey, but I'd probably try it just because it sounds so naughty.:wink:
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    my question is who has 20 minutes to be swishing crap in their mouth?

    I don't' even sit down that long unless I'm at work.
  • There are many pros and no real cons. I do it sometimes, to time consuming to do it all the time.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I am doing it, not daily though, using unrefined virgin sesame oil.
    I read that it helps with gum disease, so I tried and my gums do look way better and bleed way less.
    In the beginning I could do only one minute before I had to spit it out. I am up to 20 minutes now.

    For me: it works ... other might boohoo it as nonsense ... to each his own

    I am concerned about your definition of "works."
  • randomtai
    randomtai Posts: 9,003 Member
    Anything where you have to spit it out instead of swallowing can't be any good.
  • calibriintx
    calibriintx Posts: 1,741 Member
    It's a fad as far as all of the stuff the internet says it can do. It's not going to cure cancer, prevent heart disease, reverse diabetes or make you lose 20 lbs in a month. It's not a total waste of time for oral health though, apparently: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18408265
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    Anything where you have to spit it out instead of swallowing can't be any good.

    +1
    I'm so glad I'm in this thread! My inner Bevis and Butthead ROLLING!!!
  • Efflictim
    Efflictim Posts: 147 Member
    I had to Google that one too. You have to swish oil around in your mouth for 20min? really? 20min!? :huh: I think I'll stick to just brushing my teeth and drinking lots of water.

    http://news.discovery.com/human/psychology/can-oil-pulling-improve-your-health-140311.htm

    Thats just nonsense.
  • a_stronger_me13
    a_stronger_me13 Posts: 812 Member
    I am doing it, not daily though, using unrefined virgin sesame oil.
    I read that it helps with gum disease, so I tried and my gums do look way better and bleed way less.
    In the beginning I could do only one minute before I had to spit it out. I am up to 20 minutes now.

    For me: it works ... other might boohoo it as nonsense ... to each his own

    I bet not brushing your teeth as roughly and flossing daily would have the same effect.
  • Mia_RagazzaTosta
    Mia_RagazzaTosta Posts: 4,885 Member
    Never heard of it until 3 days ago. Now it's ALL I'm hearing about.

    Sounds like the most ridiculous thing in the world.
  • loricshields47
    loricshields47 Posts: 134 Member
    While the science behind this 'fad' may be sketchy at best I thought I'd give it a try. My teeth are a little whiter my gums a little pinker and I have not woken up once with leg cramps since I gave this a go.(It was a nightly occurance and nothing else I tried helped at all) Say what you will but if it helps why not. I use coconut oil and 20 minutes goes by fairly quickly. If only for the oral health benefits I will keep this up until the jar of coconut oil is gone. And then we will see....
  • Escloflowne
    Escloflowne Posts: 2,038 Member
    I am doing it, not daily though, using unrefined virgin sesame oil.
    I read that it helps with gum disease, so I tried and my gums do look way better and bleed way less.
    In the beginning I could do only one minute before I had to spit it out. I am up to 20 minutes now.

    For me: it works ... other might boohoo it as nonsense ... to each his own

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  • ereck44
    ereck44 Posts: 1,170 Member
    bump to read for later.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    There are many pros and no real cons. I do it sometimes, to time consuming to do it all the time.
    It causes pneumonia due to inhaling small amounts of the oil. I'd say that's a pretty big con.
  • txfatburn
    txfatburn Posts: 7 Member
    My family does oil pulling daily with organic coconut oil. The kiddos do about 30 seconds and I do a minute. We swish the oil around in your mouth, spit in trash can. We've noticed a difference in our oral health and so has our dentist. Once a week I add a drop of Thieves oil for added effect.
  • mrphil86
    mrphil86 Posts: 2,382 Member
    This whole oil fad, along with all the other oil crap will go away just like the others. There are actual alternatives that work.
  • Yetta729
    Yetta729 Posts: 68 Member
    I am doing it, not daily though, using unrefined virgin sesame oil.
    I read that it helps with gum disease, so I tried and my gums do look way better and bleed way less.
    In the beginning I could do only one minute before I had to spit it out. I am up to 20 minutes now.

    For me: it works ... other might boohoo it as nonsense ... to each his own

    I am concerned about your definition of "works."

    Please, do not be concerned ... I do it, I had some success in that my gums looks healthier and do not bleed anymore ... that is all there is ...
  • Yetta729
    Yetta729 Posts: 68 Member
    I am doing it, not daily though, using unrefined virgin sesame oil.
    I read that it helps with gum disease, so I tried and my gums do look way better and bleed way less.
    In the beginning I could do only one minute before I had to spit it out. I am up to 20 minutes now.

    For me: it works ... other might boohoo it as nonsense ... to each his own

    I bet not brushing your teeth as roughly and flossing daily would have the same effect.

    well, I am not a rough brusher and I do floss daily as well ...