Watched Forks and Knives. Now I'm thinking of trying this

You may want to look into some dissenting opinions regarding "The China Study," which is what they base almost all of their research claims on.

This is a decent start: http://rawfoodsos.com/category/china-study/

There are dozens of others. I'm not going to tell you what to believe. But, I encourage you to fully investigate the issues and research before you decide to radically change your eating.

For bookmarking purposes, b/c this sounds delicious!

There is a FOK cookbook!! I took it out from the library and the recipes were really good!!! Here's my favorite!


Peanut Noodles with Broccoli

Serves 4
8 oz of brown rice noodles
4 cups broccoli (I actually used broccoli and also added onions, orange peppers, carrots and snow peas!!)
1 cup coconut water
3 TBS creamy peanut butter
2 TBS maple syrup (real, not the fake stuff)
2 TBS soy sauce
1 TBS grated fresh ginger

I parboiled the veggies first and then removed them with a slotted spoon and set those aside. Then you can cook the noodles in the same water.

Mix the coconut water through ginger directly in a large saucepan and cook on med heat until it comes together to make a thick sauce. This takes some time, just keep stirring!

Mix the noodles and the veggies in the sauce and serve! SO GOOD!!

While basing an opinion on one source is dangerous, the China Study should not be ignored; it is a series of experiments done over the course of twenty years, is peer-reviewed, and has been supplemented by several smaller studies. It's silly to think vegans are cranking out propaganda, as a previous poster commented- what would be their motive? Seems the meat and dairy industry have more to gain than the tiny percentage of the population that is vegan.

I eat a plant based diet and my diary is open, feel free to browse, OP. If you liked FOK, check out "Food Inc." it has some really good information in it. Also check out Dr. Estlestein and his work with cardiac patients. My transition to vegetarian was slow, I started just during the week, and gradually cut out meat. Be prepared for critsism, but its worth it if it's something you really want to do.

Don't go vegan or vegetarian because of a documentary. Do it because you want to.

A documentary base on 1 way of thinking is ONLY going to show you the results of any study that supports their view point. Pick up a few books on nutrition and do some reading. Just one thing you will find, not mentioned in Forks Over Knives, plant proteins are far more difficult for the human body to process. They DO NOT break down the same, nor do they supply the same quality protein meat sources supply. Do you need mass amounts of protein in your diet? Probably not. Most people consume more than the body needs in a natural diet. But it's completely your call, your diet, your health.

I can see the reason for the bad taste, but I think even vegans hate PETA. The links you've posted are great, seems like you've done your research. I'm veggie for a variety of reasons: humanitarian, enviornmental, disdain for agribusiness, ect; any health benefits are just a bonus.

While basing an opinion on one source is dangerous, the China Study should not be ignored; it is a series of experiments done over the course of twenty years, is peer-reviewed, and has been supplemented by several smaller studies. It's silly to think vegans are cranking out propaganda, as a previous poster commented- what would be their motive? Seems the meat and dairy industry have more to gain than the tiny percentage of the population that is vegan.

I eat a plant based diet and my diary is open, feel free to browse, OP. If you liked FOK, check out "Food Inc." it has some really good information in it. Also check out Dr. Estlestein and his work with cardiac patients. My transition to vegetarian was slow, I started just during the week, and gradually cut out meat. Be prepared for critsism, but its worth it if it's something you really want to do.

You would think it would be silly, but yet they do it all they time. There's a ton of vegan propaganda out there, whether the motives are based on morals, or self-righteousness or whatever, I see it every day. You may as well ask "Why do some vegans make other people feel guilty for eating meat?" I'm not saying all vegans do this, but the minority that do make the rest of the vegans look bad and leave a bad taste in people's mouth about vegans.

^^^ backing this guy up, this isn't the only example of vegan propaganda. I've seen many many many examples of vegans trying to claim that humans evolved to eat a plant-only diet, making false statement after false statement, putting forward strawman arguments and various other logical fallacies to support this claim.

There is unfortunately a lot of pseudoscience and propaganda out there coming from vegans. Why they do it? No idea. I don't see why they can't just say "humans didn't evolve to eat a vegan diet, but we have enough technology nowadays to get all our nutritional needs from 100% plant sources" which is true, rather than trying to claim that meat isn't a natural part of the human diet. The truth is that humans would not have evolved at all without meat, and none of the species of great ape (our closest relatives) are herbivores. They're all omnivores, even gorillas, in spite of vegans frequently using gorillas as an example of how a large primate can thrive on a vegan diet (they eat insects, and additionally the gorilla's gut is better adapted to get nutrition from low quality plant foods than the human's gut, so humans can't base their diet on what's good for gorillas in spite of being closely related). I can elaborate on this at length (i.e. further explain how humans are adapted to be omnivores, not herbivores) if need be, but I don't want to make this a tl;dr post.

I have nothing against vegan diets, it is possible to get enough protein from a vegan diet. Difficult, but possible. What I object to though is vegans trying to claim that humans need less protein than they actually need, in order to justify themselves not getting enough protein on a vegan diet. IMO vegan is an ethical choice (and a legitimate one, even if I don't personally agree with it) not a health choice. It takes careful planning to be properly nourished as a vegan, and saying "humans don't need that much protein anyway therefore I'm not going to bother putting in the effort to get enough protein on a vegan diet" is cop-out logic.