TDEE Doubts
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MFP gave you 1500 based on the data you entered...
TDEE-20% is typically what MFP gives you plus exercise calories...
1500 is too little and losing too fast does cause muscle loss...and you will notice a decline in your workout success...
If you have a deadline you've known about it...you really should have started earlier...aimed for 1lb a week until you hit about 20lbs to lose then switched to 1/2lb a week.
As well hunger is not the best indicator of what your body needs.0 -
MFP gave you 1500 based on the data you entered...
TDEE-20% is typically what MFP gives you plus exercise calories...
1500 is too little and losing too fast does cause muscle loss...and you will notice a decline in your workout success...
If you have a deadline you've known about it...you really should have started earlier...aimed for 1lb a week until you hit about 20lbs to lose then switched to 1/2lb a week.
As well hunger is not the best indicator of what your body needs.
I really don't think 1.5 pound per week is unhealthy. I do suspect that MFP is misreporting how much I should be eating based on the information I gave it and I do suspect it is underestimating my TDEE. 1500 does seem to low to me.
"As well hunger is not the best indicator of what your body needs."
People keep saying this. But then people keep saying that if you are causing yourself "metabolic damage" that a symptom is cravings and hunger. I'm getting mixed information here.
"If you have a deadline you've known about it...you really should have started earlier"
If this is wish time then I suppose I could just wish I never put myself in this condition in the first place. However I prefer to deal with realities. If I cannot get to where I want to be in that amount of time so be it but I cannot reverse time nor can I shift the deadline. I would like to set my goal to whatever is reasonable to lose what I can in the amount of time I have left. From everything that I have read thusfar 1.5 pound weight loss per week is not unhealthy and if what is required to get there is to eat more but workout more as well to raise my TDEE to a 3500 where -20% is 700 calorie deficit then that is what I will do.
I am not so fixated though that I am willing to cause myself harm or muscle loss in the pursuit of this, I am trying to be both stalwart and reasonable at the same time and I apologize if that is frustrating those I speak to about this.0 -
As for what my body is capable of doing I have in the past lost 10 pounds in 14 days going from 19% bodyfat to 14% bodyfat in that time with no measured loss in lean mass. That is what my profile picture is from. Now what it took to do that was to have my TDEE at about 6000 and I don't have time for so I can't do that again but I suffered no ill effects and in fact felt great afterwords, light as air.0
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Hey if you're a genie and all, I don't know why you care what everyone's opinions are. I would like my three wishes though.0
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I'm 5'10" and pushing 40 and I lost pretty steadily and easily 1 - 1.3 Lbs per week netting around 1,850 and on average grossing around 2100 - 2300 depending on the exercise. I ultimately switched to the TDEE method because it was just easier with my exercise being pretty consistent. I've been maintaining for almost a year now @ around 2600 - 2700 calories...more when I'm actually training for something. On average (not training) I lift 3x weekly and I ride my bike a few days per week for 45 - 60 minutes which generally gets me anywhere from 10 - 15 miles depending on how hard I'm cranking.
I am of the opinion that if people aren't losing then they're probably eating more than they think they are. I do believe metabolic damage can occur, but I would think it would require far less calories...that said, I never saw any reason to net below my BMR which is around 1800.0 -
MFP gave you 1500 based on the data you entered...
TDEE-20% is typically what MFP gives you plus exercise calories...
1500 is too little and losing too fast does cause muscle loss...and you will notice a decline in your workout success...
If you have a deadline you've known about it...you really should have started earlier...aimed for 1lb a week until you hit about 20lbs to lose then switched to 1/2lb a week.
As well hunger is not the best indicator of what your body needs.
I really don't think 1.5 pound per week is unhealthy. I do suspect that MFP is misreporting how much I should be eating based on the information I gave it and I do suspect it is underestimating my TDEE. 1500 does seem to low to me.
"As well hunger is not the best indicator of what your body needs."
People keep saying this. But then people keep saying that if you are causing yourself "metabolic damage" that a symptom is cravings and hunger. I'm getting mixed information here.
"If you have a deadline you've known about it...you really should have started earlier"
If this is wish time then I suppose I could just wish I never put myself in this condition in the first place. However I prefer to deal with realities. If I cannot get to where I want to be in that amount of time so be it but I cannot reverse time nor can I shift the deadline. I would like to set my goal to whatever is reasonable to lose what I can in the amount of time I have left. From everything that I have read thusfar 1.5 pound weight loss per week is not unhealthy and if what is required to get there is to eat more but workout more as well to raise my TDEE to a 3500 where -20% is 700 calorie deficit then that is what I will do.
I am not so fixated though that I am willing to cause myself harm or muscle loss in the pursuit of this, I am trying to be both stalwart and reasonable at the same time and I apologize if that is frustrating those I speak to about this.
Well MFP does not use TDEE so it's not under estimating anything. MFP uses NEAT...Non-exercise activity thermogenesis. It takes your current weight...activity level...age and amount of weight you want to lose in a week and gives you the calories you need to do that based on everything you told them...if you chose sedentary...it's lower than if you choose active.
And as far as hunger not being a good indicator...how I understand it is this..when you eat too little for a period of time your body sends out signals to (hormones)to decrease hunger...
I personally have experienced this one day..wasn't hungry but I had eaten to few calories...I wasn't myself for 2 days...weak, workouts suffered etc...
And to top it all off your daily intake is less than mine...I am a 41 year old woman...I eat on average 1700 a day and lose on average 3/4lb a week...yes I lift 3x a week plus cardio/HIIT 2x a week.0 -
I'm 5'10" and pushing 40 and I lost pretty steadily and easily 1 - 1.3 Lbs per week netting around 1,850 and on average grossing around 2100 - 2300 depending on the exercise. I ultimately switched to the TDEE method because it was just easier with my exercise being pretty consistent. I've been maintaining for almost a year now @ around 2600 - 2700 calories...more when I'm actually training for something. On average (not training) I lift 3x weekly and I ride my bike a few days per week for 45 - 60 minutes which generally gets me anywhere from 10 - 15 miles depending on how hard I'm cranking.
I am of the opinion that if people aren't losing then they're probably eating more than they think they are. I do believe metabolic damage can occur, but I would think it would require far less calories...that said, I never saw any reason to net below my BMR which is around 1800.
Yeah this all makes sense and sounds close to what I've estimated myself. I'm definitely considering upping my net intake to around 1800. It has been my lack of weight loss on average due to fluctuation that has made me question the need to do so. Though today I did weigh in at 184.6 and I was 188 6 weeks ago. Of course tomorrow I might be 187 again who knows my weight fluctuates a lot.0 -
And to top it all off your daily intake is less than mine...I am a 41 year old woman...I eat on average 1700 a day and lose on average 3/4lb a week...yes I lift 3x a week plus cardio/HIIT 2x a week.
Just to be clear I eat more than 1700 calories a day, Saturday for example I ate 2100. I just net lower. Are you netting 1700 a day after eating back from exercise or are you eating only 1700 because then you are eating less than me. That said I agree as a younger man I should be eating considerably more than you.0 -
Okay I went into the custom settings and pushed up my net caloric goal to 1800 a day. Will see what an extra 300 cal a day does for me.
Not sure I am going to be able to tell the difference to be honest though since I have only been at this for 6 weeks.0 -
Flakey MFP, dup entry.0
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Thanks again heybales, I really appreciate you taking the time. Yes I do want to avoid metabolic damage. I took a look at that article and I'm not suffering from any of those early warning signs. I'm not at all hungry during the day but even if I'm not I still eat to up my calories to my goal, I never undereat just because I'm not hungry. It has been 6 weeks and I am not craving, I am not hungry during my days and my workouts I still bring intensity and have seen gains in terms of cardiovascular endurance and strength. There is always that possibility I am fooling myself but I think I'm about where I want to be it just seems that my intake is low for someone my age and size so I was questioning it.
I was wondering what you meant by "stall weeks", does that mean a week where you intentionally eat more to aid with recovery and take a break from dieting?
Also not sure if you would be willing to sneak a peak at my diary and evaluate. I've only been logging in MFP for a week, prior to that I was using my own excel sheets.
Stall, plateau, no weight loss even though nothing changed.
Now if it was losing indeed 1.5 lbs weekly, week after week, and you correctly ate less to support less weight, and that bam - no loss for weeks on end - somethings up.
Usually you stall by losing less and less despite doing the above, lose 1.5, lose 1, lose 0.5, then nothing for weeks on end.
Logging habits didn't change, accuracy didn't change, workouts just as intense or more, ect.
That is the sign your body just lowered energy needs.
Time for a diet break. Which is beneficial anyway every 6-8 weeks depending on workout type/frequency.
But what many discover at the end of the journey, if they took all the time it took and the weight lost, it could have been done reasonably over the whole time.
There is a gal with a very encouraging thread right now, 100 lbs in 2 years, but that's less than 1 lb a week. And she created a deficit of close to 3 lbs weekly actually, but in the end this is all she got from it. And eating less than 1200 with exercise, and another 100 lbs to go - I don't think she realizes the plateau she's going to or already hit. But if she had started out at 1 lb loss goal, she'd likely still be hitting it, and see more results for it just being fat that is lost.
So good job with the increase, you should see the exercise intensity take off, and should start seeing the inches drop, even if the weight doesn't seem as fast.
During this time, if there really is the need for the weight to be gone, you can a do a week here or there with like 2 lb loss goal. That won't be nearly as bad with a full burning system.
Oh, and some of that initial weight lost was water weight, always is.
Oh yeah, you didn't drop BF% that much, your measurement method is probably a wide accuracy range and you are bouncing around in it. If you do that math as to how many calories a deficit that must have been to accomplish with the weight you lost.
Scales doing BF% can be around 10% accurate if you are always of the same hydration level, better be valid morning to accomplish. Some aren't even consistent if you get right back on and test again.0 -
Oh yeah, you didn't drop BF% that much, your measurement method is probably a wide accuracy range and you are bouncing around in it. If you do that math as to how many calories a deficit that must have been to accomplish with the weight you lost.
Scales doing BF% can be around 10% accurate if you are always of the same hydration level, better be valid morning to accomplish. Some aren't even consistent if you get right back on and test again.
If you are referring to my story of going from 19% to 14% in 14 days it was professionally measured by calipers at the local university. I also lost 10 pounds during that time which lined up in agreement with the drop in bodyfat percentage given my lean mass at the time. I went on a 200 mile backpack in rough terrain and I wanted to check my stats before and after. It was about as accurate as you can make it without a dunk tank or DEXA scan.
If you are referring to my current progress saying I think I've lost 3% BF yes that is from calipering myself (well my girlfriend doing it) and also tape measure so yeah that is probably within error to be honest especially considering they tend to be less accurate at higher bodyfat %'s.
Bodyfat scales rely on electrical impedance which will get totally messed by your sodium and water retention levels, they aren't accurate at all and I do not use them.0 -
Well, calipers in the hands of a trained person can be upwards of 5% accurate.
That's why they are trained to measure 3 times and take an average. The trained one gets the same reading each of those times.
But you usually don't know they are that good or bad unless they make the mistake of mumbling while doing it - "oh shoot", "ah common", "nuts", ect. ;-)
Great way to keep track though, that's for sure.0 -
Hey if I had the time I'd just go on another 200 mile backpack, problem solved right <grin>. Unfortunately I cannot get away right now so I have to stick with your standard amount of exercise 45-60 min a day here and there which means I have to watch my intake as well.0
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Ok I am going to actually answer the original question seing as most are just shouting their opinions and arguing with each other as normal instead of giving a straight answer.
I dont include my exercise in my TDEE because it chamges so much, so I set mine at sedentary. My BMR is approx. 1450 and my TDEE is approx 1850. I am 5'6'' male, 130lbs(ish) and 9.2%BF. I eat then back my exercise calories each day.
So I would ESTIMATE that your BMR is 1800 And TDEE is 2100 so I would suggest eat around 2100 per day and do not eat back exercise calories (if as you say you are doing burning 350 per day) that will net you around 1750ish.
My only opinion would be that instead of doing p90 get to a gym and lift heavy or do this as well (and eat back some exercise calories) this may help you recomp quicker, but remember its a slow process, losing weight is easy recomping is very hard0 -
Ok I am going to actually answer the original question seing as most are just shouting their opinions and arguing with each other as normal instead of giving a straight answer.
I dont include my exercise in my TDEE because it chamges so much, so I set mine at sedentary. My BMR is approx. 1450 and my TDEE is approx 1850. I am 5'6'' male, 130lbs(ish) and 9.2%BF. I eat then back my exercise calories each day.
So I would ESTIMATE that your BMR is 1800 And TDEE is 2100 so I would suggest eat around 2100 per day and do not eat back exercise calories (if as you say you are doing burning 350 per day) that will net you around 1750ish.
My only opinion would be that instead of doing p90 get to a gym and lift heavy or do this as well (and eat back some exercise calories) this may help you recomp quicker, but remember its a slow process, losing weight is easy recomping is very hard
hallelujua. Thanks for this. I assume in this case the "TDEE" you refer to is the "sedentary" TDEE not taking into account exercise so my TDEE with exercise is 2450 with your estimate which would make a 1750 intake be a 700 cal deficit. Now that is more in line with the 1500 net I was eating before so I do suspect my TDEE might be higher but I appreciate you sharing your experience which is all I asked for. Had hoped I got lots of different shared experiences in terms of TDEE and BMR get some stories going so thanks for providing one.0 -
Ok I am going to actually answer the original question seing as most are just shouting their opinions and arguing with each other as normal instead of giving a straight answer.
I dont include my exercise in my TDEE because it chamges so much, so I set mine at sedentary. My BMR is approx. 1450 and my TDEE is approx 1850. I am 5'6'' male, 130lbs(ish) and 9.2%BF. I eat then back my exercise calories each day.
So I would ESTIMATE that your BMR is 1800 And TDEE is 2100 so I would suggest eat around 2100 per day and do not eat back exercise calories (if as you say you are doing burning 350 per day) that will net you around 1750ish.
My only opinion would be that instead of doing p90 get to a gym and lift heavy or do this as well (and eat back some exercise calories) this may help you recomp quicker, but remember its a slow process, losing weight is easy recomping is very hard
then you are using NEAT not TDEE...
And no one can tell him what his BMR is or TDEE that is something he has got to figure that out himself using the numbers he has (ie calories in/burns etc)...random numbers are random.
I know my personal TDEE because I did the math...I did not use a website...
As well my actual TDEE is 2100 so I suspect his is more than that...
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ETA: then you figured out your maintenance without exercise not TDEE...TDEE=Total daily energy expenditure
"The total daily energy expenditure (TDEE) is an important calculation in the determination of the overall dietary and exercise practices of any person. The amount of energy needed by anyone to meet the daily physical demands will have two components: the amount of energy needed to maintain the body's needs at rest, the basal energy expenditure, expressed as the base metabolic rate (BMR), and the needs generated by the daily activity levels, which include employment, sport, and any other activities."0 -
Oh my goodness my head hurts from trying to follow this whole thread. Looks like there is a wealth of information out there. So let me throw myself out there. I have been weighing my food and logging for about 42 days. I've tallied the calories up and divided by the number of days logged. I come up with 1600 calories per day. I am a 36 year old female. 5 foot 6 inches and I weigh 159 pounds. I practice ashtanga/vinyasa yoga 4 times a week. With these numbers my TDEE should be around 2000-2200, yet here's the kicker: I haven't lost a pound yet! Now 1600 isn't so low that it is causing metabolic damage so let me ask this: Is my TDEE actually 1600????!!!!!0
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Oh my goodness my head hurts from trying to follow this whole thread. Looks like there is a wealth of information out there. So let me throw myself out there. I have been weighing my food and logging for about 42 days. I've tallied the calories up and divided by the number of days logged. I come up with 1600 calories per day. I am a 36 year old female. 5 foot 6 inches and I weigh 159 pounds. I practice ashtanga/vinyasa yoga 4 times a week. With these numbers my TDEE should be around 2000-2200, yet here's the kicker: I haven't lost a pound yet! Now 1600 isn't so low that it is causing metabolic damage so let me ask this: Is my TDEE actually 1600????!!!!!
Seems very unlikely that your TDEE is 1600. If you are eating 1600 and lets say your TDEE is 2100 then that is going to be something close to one pound a week in loss. If you have been logging 42 days then you have been logging 6 weeks. It is possible that 6 pounds loss could be masked by water retention due to increased activity or change in diet. If you are overestimating your TDEE a little bit and its actually 1900 or 2000 then its even more likely fat loss could be masked by water retention.
Have you been measuring your waist? If not have you noticed a change in the way your clothes fit? You can stay the same weight while still losing fat due to water retention but you would still lose inches in that case.
I'm in a similar situation as you in terms of low intake but no weight loss but I've also tracked my waistline and can see improvement there.0 -
After 3 weeks of no weight loss I started measuring my body. I haven't lost inches since measuring and truthfully my clothes fit the same. I did notice however that my arms and stomach seem more defined, but that isn't empirical evidence now is it?Oh my goodness my head hurts from trying to follow this whole thread. Looks like there is a wealth of information out there. So let me throw myself out there. I have been weighing my food and logging for about 42 days. I've tallied the calories up and divided by the number of days logged. I come up with 1600 calories per day. I am a 36 year old female. 5 foot 6 inches and I weigh 159 pounds. I practice ashtanga/vinyasa yoga 4 times a week. With these numbers my TDEE should be around 2000-2200, yet here's the kicker: I haven't lost a pound yet! Now 1600 isn't so low that it is causing metabolic damage so let me ask this: Is my TDEE actually 1600????!!!!!
Seems very unlikely that your TDEE is 1600. If you are eating 1600 and lets say your TDEE is 2100 then that is going to be something close to one pound a week in loss. If you have been logging 42 days then you have been logging 6 weeks. It is possible that 6 pounds loss could be masked by water retention due to increased activity or change in diet. If you are overestimating your TDEE a little bit and its actually 1900 or 2000 then its even more likely fat loss could be masked by water retention.
Have you been measuring your waist? If not have you noticed a change in the way your clothes fit? You can stay the same weight while still losing fat due to water retention but you would still lose inches in that case.
I'm in a similar situation as you in terms of low intake but no weight loss but I've also tracked my waistline and can see improvement there.
I don't want to start crying to the boards because I know that people will say one of two things: I'm not weighing food properly or I'm not eating enough. I'm just wondering what is going on. I do intend to start heavy lifting and more cardio before I give up. I have lost weigh by calorie counting before but that was 5 years ago. I'm not new to this.0 -
Oh my goodness my head hurts from trying to follow this whole thread. Looks like there is a wealth of information out there. So let me throw myself out there. I have been weighing my food and logging for about 42 days. I've tallied the calories up and divided by the number of days logged. I come up with 1600 calories per day. I am a 36 year old female. 5 foot 6 inches and I weigh 159 pounds. I practice ashtanga/vinyasa yoga 4 times a week. With these numbers my TDEE should be around 2000-2200, yet here's the kicker: I haven't lost a pound yet! Now 1600 isn't so low that it is causing metabolic damage so let me ask this: Is my TDEE actually 1600????!!!!!
Sure you could have suppressed your TDEE to 1600.
It's not a matter of eating level being low, it's a matter of the deficit being more than your body feels comfortable giving - so it adapts.
You could have all kinds of other stresses to your body (not your exercise, and I'm sure that yoga helps other stress) that cause it to adapt sooner than others.
But I'm wondering in your case if you used a bodyfat estimate for Katch BMR, and TDEE estimate from there? And normal TDEE tables based on more intense than yoga exercise are going to inflate too.
I'm betting your TDEE is not that high.
If you think that 1600 is your TDEE, merely test for 2 weeks.
Eat 250 more calories daily for 2 weeks straight. If 1600 really was your TDEE, you would gain 1 lb of weight - that is it.
Reread that.
If you gain more and/or faster, then 1600 is not your TDEE, because you just gained water weight.0 -
Made up a batch of Chicken and Lentils tonight for my weeks meals. Previously I was just eating a couple of chicken breasts so I'm thinking the addition of lentils will bulk out my mid-day meal and bring me up to the desired level. Will see if that increases my energy and doesn't affect my progress otherwise.0
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then you are using NEAT not TDEE...
And no one can tell him what his BMR is or TDEE that is something he has got to figure that out himself using the numbers he has (ie calories in/burns etc)...random numbers are random.
I know my personal TDEE because I did the math...I did not use a website...
Symantics. At the end of the day it doesnt matter what you want to call it neat or TDEE you knew what I meant. the reason I do it that way is that no one will exercise and burn the exact same amount of calories each day even if they do the exact same workout.
Also you will notice in my quote I did not claim to give him an exact number, I said it was my rough estimate. And the reason I did this is he asked in his original post for a ball park figure just to measure up peoples opinion on what their experience is he was never asking for someone to work it out perfectly for him.
I was answering the post and giving a measured response instead of nit picking and criticising the op.0 -
then you are using NEAT not TDEE...
And no one can tell him what his BMR is or TDEE that is something he has got to figure that out himself using the numbers he has (ie calories in/burns etc)...random numbers are random.
I know my personal TDEE because I did the math...I did not use a website...
Symantics. At the end of the day it doesnt matter what you want to call it neat or TDEE you knew what I meant. the reason I do it that way is that no one will exercise and burn the exact same amount of calories each day even if they do the exact same workout.
Also you will notice in my quote I did not claim to give him an exact number, I said it was my rough estimate. And the reason I did this is he asked in his original post for a ball park figure just to measure up peoples opinion on what their experience is he was never asking for someone to work it out perfectly for him.
I was answering the post and giving a measured response instead of nit picking and criticising the op.
and I appreciate that thank you. I am looking for experiential stories from real people as a way to compare and contrast my own experiences and start a conversation that might be enlightening for both myself and hopefully for others. I wasn't planning on just latching onto the first person who gave an answer and emulating exactly what they said, after all if I just wanted a calculator to spit out my TDEE there are plenty of those around. I appreciate that you took my request at face value instead of trying to diagnose my condition like I am broken and need fixing :-)0 -
then you are using NEAT not TDEE...
And no one can tell him what his BMR is or TDEE that is something he has got to figure that out himself using the numbers he has (ie calories in/burns etc)...random numbers are random.
I know my personal TDEE because I did the math...I did not use a website...
Symantics. At the end of the day it doesnt matter what you want to call it neat or TDEE you knew what I meant. the reason I do it that way is that no one will exercise and burn the exact same amount of calories each day even if they do the exact same workout.
Also you will notice in my quote I did not claim to give him an exact number, I said it was my rough estimate. And the reason I did this is he asked in his original post for a ball park figure just to measure up peoples opinion on what their experience is he was never asking for someone to work it out perfectly for him.
I was answering the post and giving a measured response instead of nit picking and criticising the op.
Actually it's not semantics.
One means with exercise one means without.
New people coming here get confused about what to do and what stuff is called due to "semantics"...I may know but not everyone does.
Call me nit picky I don't care but if you are doing NEAT then call it NEAT...if you are doing TDEE call it that...otherwise you are just confusing those who don't know.
As for "the OPs number" that is easy for him to figure out without a site. Choose 3 consecutive weeks of data from MFP...
Total calories consumed+(pounds lost x 3500)/21=TDEE...see no guesses, no rough estimates...a number that is distinct to that person.0 -
then you are using NEAT not TDEE...
And no one can tell him what his BMR is or TDEE that is something he has got to figure that out himself using the numbers he has (ie calories in/burns etc)...random numbers are random.
I know my personal TDEE because I did the math...I did not use a website...
Symantics. At the end of the day it doesnt matter what you want to call it neat or TDEE you knew what I meant. the reason I do it that way is that no one will exercise and burn the exact same amount of calories each day even if they do the exact same workout.
Also you will notice in my quote I did not claim to give him an exact number, I said it was my rough estimate. And the reason I did this is he asked in his original post for a ball park figure just to measure up peoples opinion on what their experience is he was never asking for someone to work it out perfectly for him.
I was answering the post and giving a measured response instead of nit picking and criticising the op.
Actually it's not semantics.
One means with exercise one means without.
New people coming here get confused about what to do and what stuff is called due to "semantics"...I may know but not everyone does.
Call me nit picky I don't care but if you are doing NEAT then call it NEAT...if you are doing TDEE call it that...otherwise you are just confusing those who don't know.
As for "the OPs number" that is easy for him to figure out without a site. Choose 3 consecutive weeks of data from MFP...
Total calories consumed+(pounds lost x 3500)/21=TDEE...see no guesses, no rough estimates...a number that is distinct to that person.
TDEE means Total Daily Energy Expenditure. NEAT means non-exercise activity thermogenesis. All they are are numbers, how you use them is up to you. MFP uses them in a certain way, other programs use them differently...they are a number, not a way of doing things. You like MFPs way you can say how they or you use these numbers in your routinue but to somehow claim that your use of those numbers is the only correct use of those numbers is like me claiming the ownership of the number 5 and demanding everyone only use 5 in this particular way or they are wrong.
No where in my post did I misuse the numbers, just because I did not use them or refer to them in the exact way you are used to IS semantics. I am sorry if it bothered you or you find it confusing but I'm not sure what that has to do with me or what I was trying to accomplish in this thread.0
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