Is there too much cardio in this program?

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  • scraver2003
    scraver2003 Posts: 526 Member
    Because I like it and I dont have the time to do weight lifting now.

    lifting- you're doing it wrong.

    also- you have the same time as everyone else- it's just not a priority to you.

    Instead of asking a question you already think you know the answer to- why did you ask?

    What difference if it's too much-you seem convinced it's the only think you have time for anyway- but it's already to much unless you're a competitive athlete training for long events- actual events.

    I actually have a muddy trail 10k in 10 days and another 10k in May. So I may need some preparation.

    A muddy trail 10k? Is that one of the obstacle course runs? If it is an obstacle course run - then you NEED strength training. If it all just trail running - you are still going to benefit from strength training.
  • sjohnny
    sjohnny Posts: 56,142 Member
    Because I like it and I dont have the time to do weight lifting now.

    lifting- you're doing it wrong.

    also- you have the same time as everyone else- it's just not a priority to you.

    Instead of asking a question you already think you know the answer to- why did you ask?

    What difference if it's too much-you seem convinced it's the only think you have time for anyway- but it's already to much unless you're a competitive athlete training for long events- actual events.

    I actually have a muddy trail 10k in 10 days and another 10k in May. So I may need some preparation.

    A muddy trail 10k? Is that one of the obstacle course runs? If it is an obstacle course run - then you NEED strength training. If it all just trail running - you are still going to benefit from strength training.

    Do you even reading comprehension? No time for strength training.


    OP, more rowing is what you need to be the Cardiac Enduro champeen.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    I am used to do 60 sets. Each set has 15 reps. I am trying to dispatch that through all my muscle: biceps, triceps, back, forehand and shoulder. should i consider this as vigorous or general weight lifting?
    I don't like doing 15 rep sets. Which is more endurance than strength by the way.
    I don't mind doign 5 rep sets. As mentioned, I'd a total of 45 (full weight) reps for the WHOLE SESSION, that's it.
    I don't particularly 'like' it, but nor do I dislike it and I do really like the results.

    ok... just a question... What would you consider as a vigorous weight lifting session?

    Probably something like an hour of Just Dance or wii Boxing.

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    OMFG!!! I USED TO DO THAT VIDEO AS A KID WHEN MY PARENTS WEREN"T HOME.... the mat slapping part- with the super man song.

    dear lord. what a flash back.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Just to reiterate to the OP.... if you want to be the best endurance athlete you can be, you are gonna need to add a weight program in. If you want to be mediocre, keep doing what you are doing.

    Whatever your choice, please eat more food.
  • scraver2003
    scraver2003 Posts: 526 Member
    Because I like it and I dont have the time to do weight lifting now.

    lifting- you're doing it wrong.

    also- you have the same time as everyone else- it's just not a priority to you.

    Instead of asking a question you already think you know the answer to- why did you ask?

    What difference if it's too much-you seem convinced it's the only think you have time for anyway- but it's already to much unless you're a competitive athlete training for long events- actual events.

    I actually have a muddy trail 10k in 10 days and another 10k in May. So I may need some preparation.

    A muddy trail 10k? Is that one of the obstacle course runs? If it is an obstacle course run - then you NEED strength training. If it all just trail running - you are still going to benefit from strength training.

    Do you even reading comprehension? No time for strength training.


    OP, more rowing is what you need to be the Cardiac Enduro champeen.

    omg... i think i love you.
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    ok... just a question... What would you consider as a vigorous weight lifting session?
    I do a weights session to the maximum weights I can do (unless I've recently reset.)

    Today I did
    3x5 Squat
    3x5 Weighted Pull up
    3x5 Overhead press

    They should all hit multiple muscle groups, but take very little time to complete the actual lifts.
    I would plan to do a warm up before each one of consecutively 5x half weight, 3x a bit more weight, 1x just below full weight, then a rest before the first full weight set.

    My other routines are 'big three' (squat, bench press and deadlift) and Squat, dip, standing row.

    All should work multiple muscle groups and provide you with useful 'functional' strength.
    About a month ago I did a 32 mile off road run, I've often done 10k off road runs. I'm sure the weights have helped the running.
  • Jamal_Guildford
    Jamal_Guildford Posts: 214 Member
    Just to reiterate to the OP.... if you want to be the best endurance athlete you can be, you are gonna need to add a weight program in. If you want to be mediocre, keep doing what you are doing.

    Whatever your choice, please eat more food.

    I will try to add a weight program time to time. I am considering adding more food to my diet :).
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
    let's not forget our prancersizing

    Low impact, high entertainment. Win/win.
  • Jamal_Guildford
    Jamal_Guildford Posts: 214 Member
    ok... just a question... What would you consider as a vigorous weight lifting session?
    I do a weights session to the maximum weights I can do (unless I've recently reset.)

    Today I did
    3x5 Squat
    3x5 Weighted Pull up
    3x5 Overhead press

    They should all hit multiple muscle groups, but take very little time to complete the actual lifts.
    I would plan to do a warm up before each one of consecutively 5x half weight, 3x a bit more weight, 1x just below full weight, then a rest before the first full weight set.

    My other routines are 'big three' (squat, bench press and deadlift) and Squat, dip, standing row.

    All should work multiple muscle groups and provide you with useful 'functional' strength.
    About a month ago I did a 32 mile off road run, I've often done 10k off road runs. I'm sure the weights have helped the running.

    Are you saying vigorous work out is all about the weight you are lifting and not the number of reps? Last week I did heavy weight lifting with a friend (more than usual). I was so starving after, probably because I build up muscle. I am not usually hungry after a cardio session.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Yes, lift heavy with less reps. You aren't building any muscle eating what you are eating. On that low of calories, you are just trying to maintain what is already there.
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    Both to maintain muscle and to try and gain strength I would and do go for lifting low reps of heavy weights and I would start doing 'compound' moves like the ones I have mentioned - these work a lot of muscles at once and offer an excellent 'base' of strength.

    (Look to strating strength or strong lifts - I have changed it a bit to help with rock climbing stuff.)
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    OP you could always do this for three hours a day:
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  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
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    That pic gave me a deja vu moment of some indoor shopping i did once in a far away place, how bizarre?
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Are you saying vigorous work out is all about the weight you are lifting and not the number of reps? Last week I did heavy weight lifting with a friend (more than usual). I was so starving after, probably because I build up muscle. I am not usually hungry after a cardio session.

    best thing you've come back with us so far.... because YES this is correct- it's about the weight-
    "heavy" is a rep range- not an actual number.
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    Dear Malcolm Jamal OP:

    You are doing ALL TEH CARDIO. There is little to none left. I beleive you already are, probably already were and most likely always will be the Cardio Endurance Peen whatever that you aspire to. Please to step up for your coronation.

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  • Rayman79
    Rayman79 Posts: 2,009 Member
    OP, forget everything you think you know about training.

    Look at a good beginner weightlifting routine 3-4 times per week (which will take you less time than you plan to spend on the rower), and will be the single BEST thing you do to transform your body. Pinky Swear!

    Focus on the big compound movements (squat, deadlift, press, bench) add accessory lifts as/if needed. Do cardio AFTER you lift or on your non-lifting days. Get someone to instruct you in the beginning so you learn decent form.

    You are welcome.
  • jcallejabjj
    jcallejabjj Posts: 33
    My cardio consist of running back and forth from the couch to the pantry. Then sprints from the living room to the bathroom. The second part is where the real magic happens.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    My cardio consist of running back and forth from the couch to the pantry. Then sprints from the living room to the bathroom. The second part is where the real magic happens.

    like 5 lb weight loss after each bathroom sprint right ;)
  • jcallejabjj
    jcallejabjj Posts: 33
    My cardio consist of running back and forth from the couch to the pantry. Then sprints from the living room to the bathroom. The second part is where the real magic happens.

    like 5 lb weight loss after each bathroom sprint right ;)

    Oh yeah. Specially after consuming a huge dirty carne asada burrito from a roach coach.

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