potatoes/potaaatoes..& rice!!
ros2will3run
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Can anyone tell me my white bread, white rice, and good old pototoes, are said to make you put on weight?
I do eat them, but hopefully in smaller quantities than before.
ps..They look so innocent!! unlike a pepperoni pizza!
I do eat them, but hopefully in smaller quantities than before.
ps..They look so innocent!! unlike a pepperoni pizza!
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weight gain is caused by caloric surplus, not what specific foods you eat0
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x2weight gain is caused by caloric surplus, not what specific foods you eat0 -
Eating above your calorie maintenance level will cause weight gain. Unless you are medically restricted from eating certain food, eat a variety of food in moderation, relax, enjoy and have fun. Here is a worthwhile read:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants0 -
Well if you eat them ( as well as anything) in mass amounts, they contribute to weight gain. But white bread is highly processed and do you really want that crap entering your body? Eat them in small quantities if you enjoy them, but try switching to healthier options that tend to me more filling like whole grain bread, brown rice (or quinoa!) and sweet potatoes. The longer you feel full, the less you eat throughout the day.0
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People think it makes you gain weight because they're high in calories and it's easy to eat a lot of them. That's really about it. If you're managing portions, you'll be fine, and it'll be delicious.0
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Barring medical conditions there's no reason not to eat those things in moderation.
I eat all of them and I've lost 46 lbs and kept it off for a year and a half.0 -
People think it makes you gain weight because they're high in calories and it's easy to eat a lot of them. That's really about it. If you're managing portions, you'll be fine, and it'll be delicious.
^^^^ This. they're high calorie density foods that need to be logged accurately (weighing them is best for accuracy) - but as long as you're sticking to your calorie goal they won't make you gain weight and won't stop you succeeding at losing weight.0 -
Just eat them in moderation. I'm a diabetic so I personally won't touch a slice of white bread or white rice because of how it affects my blood sugar. I still eat potatoes and brown rice and wheat bread (and almost any other carb you can think of), but I do it in moderation. I just pay attention to serving sizes.0
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x2weight gain is caused by caloric surplus, not what specific foods you eat
Many people think that foods that are high in carbohydrates with little else in the way of nutrients are essentially the devil. Like white bread, potatoes, rice etc. They'll claim insulin spikes etc will prevent you from losing weight. But they are wrong: insulin is supposed to spike, and blood sugar levels vary throughout the day even in a healthy individual.
The thing about these "white foods" is that they are high in carbs (and therefore calories) and that it is very easy to overeat them. i.e. if you have a plateful of mashed potatoes loaded with butter every meal, you are getting lots of calories. Those calories can lead to weight gain (if they take you over your TDEE). People who go on Atkins or other low carb diets tend to lose weight and then make the post hoc fallacy of saying that they lost weight because of the low carb diet. What they really did was restrict their calories (although possibly without counting/realizing it).
If you maintain portion control, and come in at a calorie deficit, you will lose weight, regardless of what you ate. I'm prediabetic, and managed to lose 40 lb and keep it off for 2 years while eating these things - I just have to make sure I don't eat too much for my own blood sugar levels.0 -
The amount of carbs probably. There's not much nutrition, if any, in a white potato or rice. Just stick to other veggies 0
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I have to watch these things, because I feel like I'm going to crash into a nap if I eat too much of these things... I have to watch these items that some people call "empty carbs".0
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Going to go against the norm here ... and in very general terms ... VERY GENERAL TERMS ... weight management is from what you eat ... exercise is for heart, other muscle and system health (you can tone - but it's not the most effective long term method of weight control). :noway:
Simple carbohydrates turn to fat in your body (why do you think we feed cows corn and other grains to fatten them up and marble the meat?). The wheat and corn we grow today are not what they were 50 years ago. Even whole grain wheat isn't good for you - it's been bastardized to make it easier to grow and harvest. Why has America gotten steadily fatter and fatter when most people follow a low fat high carb diet? Because carbs make you fat - fats don't make you fat. There is a lot of "new" research out there - you have to look for it. But heart specialists are reversing their positions - Alzheimer's researchers are finding connections between dementia and low fat high carb diets. There are some brave people out there standing up to the norm.
To understand the chemistry - read the book "Why We Get Fat and What to Do About It" by Gary Taubes - or "Wheat Belly" by William Davis. And yes - these both go against what the FDA teaches - or the ADA prescribes as the right diet for diabetics - but the chemistry makes sense.
Your body is chemistry - think of it as a giant chemistry experiment - you have to find the best chemistry for you. What works for one doesn't work for another.
If you must have bread - look for a Spelt alternative - it tastes great - and is still an "ancient" grain - but eat it in very limited quantities. You may not eat it at all after you read what simple carbohydrates do to your system.
Ditto to what Amberlynnek said - why eat highly processed foods? They are crap.0 -
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Thanks for advice..!
Going to eat all in moderation..!!
Been doing this for 6 weeks now, and eating loads of veg too, and walking! Feel so much better!!0 -
Speaking strictly from a weight loss view, only calories matter. You can eat whatever you want and as long as you're under your calorie needs, you'll lose weight.
That said, make sure you're meeting your macro and micro requirements and not getting too large of a calorie deficit in order to lose in a healthy manner. Add exercise for best health/body results.0 -
I eat potatoes every day. 1 potato, around 150g, is 100 calories, is not processed, and has a lot of vitamins and minerals. It is a healthy snack so long as you keep the delicious toppings to a reasonable minimum. As for rice, I see the average caloric value as around 160-180 per 45g or 1/4c; these are dry precooked values. Again, all of the processed nonsense aside, a relatively healthy and filling carb. As for white bread, and most breads, yeah, there is a lot of stuff in them that may or may not be necessary but still, I eat bread at least once a day. All of this being said, it hasn't caused me to gain weight. Like you said...moderation. Carbs are not the enemy...stupid advice and unfounded opinions are.0
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I eat potatoes every day. 1 potato, around 150g, is 100 calories, is not processed, and has a lot of vitamins and minerals. It is a healthy snack so long as you keep the delicious toppings to a reasonable minimum. As for rice, I see the average caloric value as around 160-180 per 45g or 1/4c; these are dry precooked values. Again, all of the processed nonsense aside, a relatively healthy and filling carb. As for white bread, and most breads, yeah, there is a lot of stuff in them that may or may not be necessary but still, I eat bread at least once a day. All of this being said, it hasn't caused me to gain weight. Like you said...moderation. Carbs are not the enemy...stupid advice and unfounded opinions are.
^This.
Food is not the enemy! No such thing as "bad" food, just bad quantities.0 -
Ros2: The best thing that you can do read everyone messages here and do a little research on your own. Some of what is being said here may not pertain to you, others are having a VERY slanted point of view and some are very valid.
Get yourself a book for simple nutrient. Unless you are looking at become a world class athlete or body builder.
You can lose weight with a little knowledge and a whole lot of common sense.
Just one old man's opinion........0 -
According to Why We Get Fat, by the science editor of the NYTimes, foods that are high in refined carbs (high glycemic) cause a rapid rise in blood sugar. Your body responds by spiking insulin to lower it by storing the sugar as fat. It also causes a cascade reaction that causes you to not burn fat for around 2 hours. If you overeat, that means you spend relatively more of your time in a state where you are not burning fat. If you are active during that 2 hour period you will need that stored fat and not be able to burn it so get hungry. Therefore you tend to (sensibly) respond by eating more.
Experiencing lots of glucose/insulin spikes can cause insulin resistance in anyone who has been overweight for any length of time and people who are prone towards diabetes.
This is why lots of refined 'white' foods (white rice, potatoes, bread, pasta) and soda/beer tend to be problematic EVEN if you are within your calorie guidelines.
You don't need low carbs at all. But you do want to have your carbs under 40% or so and focus on carbs that are less refined and go into your system more slowly.
Everything people said about calories and 'no bad food' though - absolutely correct.0 -
This looks like a good bit of nutrition to me...The amount of carbs probably. There's not much nutrition, if any, in a white potato or rice. Just stick to other veggies
Nutrition Facts
Potato, white
Amount Per 1 medium (2+-1/4" to 3-1/4" dia.) (213 g)
Calories 147
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 0.2 g 0%
Saturated fat 0.1 g 0%
Polyunsaturated fat 0.1 g
Monounsaturated fat 0 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 34 mg 1%
Potassium 867 mg 24%
Total Carbohydrate 33 g 11%
Dietary fiber 5 g 20%
Sugar 2.4 g
Protein 3.6 g 7%
Vitamin A 0% Vitamin C 32%
Calcium 1% Iron 6%
Vitamin D 0% Vitamin B-6 20%
Vitamin B-12 0% Magnesium 11%0 -
Strong food shamingWell if you eat them ( as well as anything) in mass amounts, they contribute to weight gain. But white bread is highly processed and do you really want that crap entering your body? Eat them in small quantities if you enjoy them, but try switching to healthier options that tend to me more filling like whole grain bread, brown rice (or quinoa!) and sweet potatoes. The longer you feel full, the less you eat throughout the day.0 -
According to Why We Get Fat, by the science editor of the NYTimes, foods that are high in refined carbs (high glycemic) cause a rapid rise in blood sugar. Your body responds by spiking insulin to lower it by storing the sugar as fat. It also causes a cascade reaction that causes you to not burn fat for around 2 hours. If you overeat, that means you spend relatively more of your time in a state where you are not burning fat. If you are active during that 2 hour period you will need that stored fat and not be able to burn it so get hungry. Therefore you tend to (sensibly) respond by eating more.
Wait... during that 2 hours, you have higher blood glucose levels. If you are exercising (and have used up the glycogen in your muscles) you will use the blood glucose. You don't need (at that time) to burn fat. That will come later, to replenish the glycogen.
In fact, if you are diabetic, it is recommended you go for a walk or something after eating a high carb meal to prevent blood sugar levels going too high.Experiencing lots of glucose/insulin spikes can cause insulin resistance in anyone who has been overweight for any length of time and people who are prone towards diabetes.
Need a better citation for that one. We simply do not know what causes diabetes.This is why lots of refined 'white' foods (white rice, potatoes, bread, pasta) and soda/beer tend to be problematic EVEN if you are within your calorie guidelines.
Beer doesn't cause blood sugar spikes. The yeast use the simple carbs, leaving maltodextrins (complex carbs) behind.You don't need low carbs at all. But you do want to have your carbs under 40% or so and focus on carbs that are less refined and go into your system more slowly.
Everything people said about calories and 'no bad food' though - absolutely correct.
Carb % will depend on macro goals, overall calorie levels etc. A person bulking will need more carbs to get those calories in than the same person cutting.0 -
I just want to clarify that my comment about blood sugar spikes was specific towards my own body (and being diabetic). Most people have the amount of insulin they need to process pretty large quantities of carbohydrates easily.
White potatoes do have nutritional value. Beer/alcohol can actually lower blood sugar. It seems counter-intuitive, I know.
Even as a diabetic, almost nothing is truly off-limits to me. I could eat white bread if I took a nice brisk walk after dinner. Life is about balance and moderation.0 -
Food is not the enemy! No such thing as "bad" food, just bad quantities.
While I largely agree with you here, I think there is one category of "bad" food that we had best avoid except on very rare occasions, and that is "fast" food. These are mostly empty calories, over-represented by fat and sugar. A Big Mac won't kill you, but it doesn't do you any good either. Fast food every day could very well kill you eventually. Fast food = bad food.0 -
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Food is not the enemy! No such thing as "bad" food, just bad quantities.
While I largely agree with you here, I think there is one category of "bad" food that we had best avoid except on very rare occasions, and that is "fast" food. These are mostly empty calories, over-represented by fat and sugar. A Big Mac won't kill you, but it doesn't do you any good either. Fast food every day could very well kill you eventually. Fast food = bad food.
Big Mac® sandwich
Serving Size 209
(g)
Calories 540 (Kcal) {} (% DV)
Fat 29 (g) 45 (% DV)
Saturated Fat 10 (g) {} (% DV)
Trans Fat 0.5 (g) {} (% DV)
Saturated Fat + Trans Fat {} (ug) 53 (% DV)
Cholestrol 70 (mg) {} (% DV)
Sodium 1020 (mg) 43 (% DV)
Carbohydrate 44 (g) 15 (% DV)
Fibre 3 (g) 12 (% DV)
Sugar 9 (g)
Protein 24 (g)
Vitamin A 10 (% DV)
Vitamin C 4 (% DV)
Calcium 25 (% DV)
Iron 35 (% DV)
% DV = % Daily Value
Not sure how that is bad for you at all!
Care to elaborate why you think a big mac is bad food?0 -
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Food is not the enemy! No such thing as "bad" food, just bad quantities.
While I largely agree with you here, I think there is one category of "bad" food that we had best avoid except on very rare occasions, and that is "fast" food. These are mostly empty calories, over-represented by fat and sugar. A Big Mac won't kill you, but it doesn't do you any good either. Fast food every day could very well kill you eventually. Fast food = bad food.
I disagree. There are nutrients to be had in fast food meals. It's the quantity that's bad.0 -
I think because there are more nutrient dense options. Potatoes aren't bad, they have potassium and other nutrients. Its just quantity/serving size issues and how they are prepared. Yes if you fry them they calories and anti nutrients will add up. Plus I think a big reason people bash them is they leave you with cravings its been proved in some studies that I read about. Bread at breakfast can make you hungry and have cravings for carbs all day.
I eat all those things too. I eat less bread and rice than potatoes(a big part of our grocery lists).0
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