Go all in...or take baby steps?

Which is better? some say take one habit and a time and work on that (increase water intake, increase fruits and vegetables, etc), others have drastically changed everything. I would like to know what worked for you?

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  • Jestinia
    Jestinia Posts: 1,153 Member
    Depends on personality I guess. I usually go all in with stuff, but on this I dipped my toes in the water first by just counting all my calories for a week or two so I could see exactly what I was eating.

    Eye opener!

    Oh, and I gave up soda after that, then started dropping other bad food habits.
  • hmaddpear
    hmaddpear Posts: 610 Member
    It's definitely a personal thing - some folk want to feel like they're making a big change, so go all in. It can backfire, though - you may find you quit totally before you've got into the swing of things. I did that several times: mostly on diets like Atkins, Cambridge and Slimfast. Others take baby steps, change one thing at a time, but that can also backfire - you don't keep making the changes or you don't see any results from the ones you do make, and you gradually fall back into the bad habits. (I did this as well, mainly by starting to exercise, but not changing my diet - didn't see any results, got an injury and never went back.)

    The key to success for me this time was consistency. Even now I'm slightly amazed that it's been 9+ months and I'm still here, plugging away. I made a raft of small changes to start with and stuck to them. Then as time's gone on I've added more changes - upped my exercise as I've got slimmer and fitter (not that I'm considered either yet, but time will sort that one!), incorporated more veggies and evened out my eating day-to-day.

    I think my advice would be to pick one, and see how you do. When you fall off the wagon (and you will - life gets in the way of the best of intentions), pick yourself up and assess as to what's gone wrong. Then take steps to either make sure it doesn't happen again or accept that's the way it is, and work around it.

    Good luck!
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
    Which is better? some say take one habit and a time and work on that (increase water intake, increase fruits and vegetables, etc), others have drastically changed everything. I would like to know what worked for you?

    I don't have an answer other than it probably depends on the person. I believe (I'd have to revisit the info) that we do have some research showing greater long term success rates in individuals who lose weight fast vs slow initially. One could take this and assume that this means you need to go "all in" so to speak.

    But I doubt this is a cut-and-dry thing, and I think there's merit to the idea that some people aren't going to be able to adhere to approaches that involve aggressive habit changes whether that's overly restrictive dieting, aggressive training procedures, or simply being overwhelmed with too much change.

    My hunch is that it probably depends on individual factors...

    This answer wasn't much help but I think it's a great question.
  • onefortyone
    onefortyone Posts: 531 Member
    I don't see it as drastic to ditch all my bad, gross habits at once (eating loads of cake, ice cream, and second dinners) and controlling portion sizes. I take baby-steps when it comes to exercise though, I couldn't do much at first, but now I'm adding in more as I get stronger and faster.
  • Pixi_Rex
    Pixi_Rex Posts: 1,676 Member
    What worked for me... um... pissing around for 4 years and half assing it and then deciding early this year that things needed to change.

    So I say go all in, no point in wasting time.
  • Mario_Az
    Mario_Az Posts: 1,331 Member
    GO HAM
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    Which is better? some say take one habit and a time and work on that (increase water intake, increase fruits and vegetables, etc), others have drastically changed everything. I would like to know what worked for you?

    I agree that its a personality thing.

    What would I advise? I think making small changes and working on health and weight loss as a lifestyle change in gradual steps is what is most likely to work long term for the majority of people.

    What do I do? I tend to make a very regimented routine for myself of strict diet and regular exercise. So why? I've found for myself I am much more likely to get invested in my fitness if I make it challenging because, well, I like a challenge. My problem is and is always going to be maintenance. I lose weight easily because, as I mentioned, I like a challenge and I am very disciplined. My problem is when it comes time for maintenance and there is no need for a strict regimen anymore I get bored and stop paying attention.

    I've been called a hypocrite on these forums before because I seem to advise differently than I act myself. I feel however that that isn't because I'm hypocritical, its because I honestly feel that my personality is not the norm personality and so what works for me would not work for the majority of people.

    So for me the strict diet and exercise is what gets the weight off. Maintenance I'm still trying to figure out. I think many would argue the if you can do the small change method you will smoothly and naturally transition into maintenance and be more likely to keep the pounds off.
  • thavoice
    thavoice Posts: 1,326 Member
    Depends.

    Going from doing nothing and eating poorly to all of a sudden eating much better and exercising can be extremely tough to pull that 180 turnaround.

    I prefer the baby steps actuall.

    Right now I am in the eating less phase and somewhat better. Counting those calories to stay within that 1-2 lb loss limit per week. I still eat teh foods I like, pizza, wings, etc. Just less often, and less in one setting.
    As far as exercising that really hasnt been a problem with my weight, it was always the caloric intake.

    The weight is coming off and the next phase will be when I start to plateau and get stagmant when I will work in more and more of the healthy options.

    In the pas I have tried to go all in and go from eating horriblly, and alot of it, to eathing healthy and much less and it didnt work.
  • Koldnomore
    Koldnomore Posts: 1,613 Member
    It's been my experience after having been around here for the last 2 years that the peoplthe ones who are who are still around with me, or those who have been here longer (and are still maintaining) have been consistently losing, or toning up or reaching whatever their goals were when they started were the ones who focused on improving slowly in small measured steps.

    People who aren't around or those who keep appearing and disappearing from the site were the ones who always tried to do everything at once. They then give up and either never come back OR come back with even more weight to lose.

    Weight loss is not a sprint, it's a marathon and those who are the most successful in the long run are those who have the patience to do it right, instead of doing it fast. YMMV.
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    What worked for me... um... pissing around for 4 years and half assing it and then deciding early this year that things needed to change.

    So I say go all in, no point in wasting time.

    It really does depend on the personality a lot. Half assing it is exactly what worked for me because all in usually got me burned out within a week.

    I don't exactly fall into either category. I keep jumping around between the two. Diet-wise, I sprint when I feel like it, and drag my feet when I feel like it. Sometimes within the same day! The trick is to have more steps forward than backward.
  • tworthen79
    tworthen79 Posts: 1,173 Member
    I took small steps. And as time went on it got a lot easier. Then I kicked things up a notch.
    It solely depends on what worked for you. It's a decision you have to make. There's no magic answer here. Good luck!
  • I made small changes but that didn't really do anything, so I switched to a vegan diet and got a gym membership and I love this lifestyle so much more.
  • BeachinBeauty
    BeachinBeauty Posts: 20 Member
    I guess, for me, the baby steps worked. I started out back in February just sick of being over 200 pounds and wanting a change. So, I gave myself a challenge to eat Special K cereal for breakfast and Lean Cuisines for lunch with a usual dinner, not measuring portion sizes (also eating out on Friday and Saturday nights, whatever I wanted). I lost about three pounds like that, without exercising. Then, late March, I found MFP and that's when I really buckled down on the eating/calories. I realized, after recording for about a week, that I'd been grossly under-estimating calorie intake and that was an eye opener. It helped me start making healthier choices. Now, I portion out all food. It took me a few weeks to add in exercise, and I'm still a work in progress with that. Another thing that's helped is setting shorter, smaller goals for myself that will lead up to my larger, ultimate goal. In the past, I've been so unsuccessful with weight loss because I'd say, "Okay, I need to lose 60 pounds." Then, I'd go all in for a few days and lose the momentum. This time, I've taken it so slow. I set my weight loss goal per week at 1 lb. because that's realistic and healthy. It's not pie-in-the-sky, so I have more initiative to do it. My first milestone was to get under 200 by my summer vacation, which is still 10 weeks away. Right now I'm 205. It's been three months since my journey started and I'm still at it. Until now, the longest I've ever kept up with a weight loss effort has been a week, max.
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    My personality is of the "all or nothing". HOWEVER, I've learned that by going all in, balls to the wall, that I lose steam or give up when I don't feel like I'm succeeding or not working the way it should. I've pretty much had to take a step back from that mentality and change it to the slow & steady, one thing at a time, babysteps and lowering my expectations.

    Let's face it, we live in a world of instant gratification these days. Unfortunately weight loss isn't one of those things that adheres to that, so many times people expect too much in too little time and get upset when they don't see the results they expect. That's why I will always recommend lowering the expectations and taking things slow and steady. There's alot less failure with that approach.
  • rosehips60
    rosehips60 Posts: 1,030 Member
    I'm in the "baby steps" camp too.I started by logging all my food , good and bad and then trying to stay in my limits. Then I added exercise and have slowly increased that too When I get to maintenance I'll take that in baby steps too, only adding back 100 calories at a time til I get comfortable. As others have said and I've said before weight is just about the most intensely personal thing we can do, do what works and ignore the rest!
  • nixxthirteen
    nixxthirteen Posts: 280 Member
    A few years ago my family switched from 2% milk to skim, full fat products to lower fat and fat free, sugar to sweetener, white bread and pasta to whole wheat... It did help, in the long run. But like others have said, I then pissed around for years and didn't change anything else. It took committing to my calorie deficit in February to start properly getting myself on track.

    The main thing that has helped me is learning to cook, learning to LIKE cooking, and not relying on pre-packaged convenience foods. With that, I go all in. My relationship with exercise is very loose for the time being, though.
  • TiberiusClaudis
    TiberiusClaudis Posts: 423 Member
    Remember your actions aren't just going to reflect on you. You're path to a new healthier lifestyle will no doubt affect your love ones as well. Some good, while some of your choices well..may take some getting used to.

    For instance, I no longer drink booze. I also shy away from parties where I know there will be fatty foods. While my wife on the other hand is a social butterfly and LOVES to go to parties and of course drink. So my healthy lifestyle effects our relationship.

    Trust me, it's not always lot of fun to sit at a party, where everyone is eatting all kinds of goodies and drinking when you've made other choices. On the other hand, she loves the new me.

    We now negotiate which parties we go to and she understand if I decline some of the invites.

    So you may want to think of how your new lifestyle will affect your loved ones and then decide to baby step or go all in.
  • FoxyLifter
    FoxyLifter Posts: 965 Member
    Baby steps works for me. There are something I need to master from chapter 1 before moving on to chapter 2.
  • Cranquistador
    Cranquistador Posts: 39,744 Member
    Yes
  • Rayman79
    Rayman79 Posts: 2,009 Member
    Most people want quick results. I'm good today so I expect/want to see a loss on the scale TOMORROW. While this has a certain amount to do with a personals personality traits, I think it more often comes down to a lack of knowledge.

    90% of people don't actually know what a healthy diet looks like (for them), what macro and micronutriants are, how many calories they should be taking in, the composition of the foods they eat, the role of exercise and difference between resistance and cardiovascular training etc. I could go on ad nauseam but you get the picture.

    When you don't know HOW to be successful, you crave the feedback to tell you that what you are doing is working. This is why quick fix diets and fad cleanses are so popular, they provide an instant drop in scale weight and reinforce the behaviour. Unfortunately, as we know, these are not sustainable and when there is no knowledge as to how to be successful, they slip back into old habits...

    Now this doesn't really answer your question as such, but I believe the answer is either. If you KNOW how to be successful, (or engage the services of someone who does and trust them completely) then you can take any approach you like and ultimately still reach the same outcome.
  • JTick
    JTick Posts: 2,131 Member
    I think it depends on your definition of each.

    When I started, I went "all in" in that I was committed, I didn't go over my calories, I exercised. I did not go all in by hitting my macros immediately (heck, I didn't even know what they were), by eating clean (I still don't BTW), or feeling like I couldn't ever have a treat. But I was totally committed, and knew that I could do this.

    I took baby steps in some other ways. First, I started by hitting my calories. Eventually, I became interested in macros, and started hitting those. Now, I'm trying to get more fruits and veggies in. I really struggle with that, so it's something that's probably going to take me a while before I just reach for a banana instead of some chips.
  • RECowgill
    RECowgill Posts: 881 Member
    ^ What she said