Eating out is basically impossible

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  • CA_Underdog
    CA_Underdog Posts: 733 Member
    The meals so listed were 350, 400, 500, and 900 calories. The last one was a splurge, but the others would fit into many diets.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I feel the same way about eating out, and have just chosen not to. I feel like I can have a tastier and more satisfying meal at home. I detest the fake taste of grilled chicken in restaurants. I'm not at a point with my weight loss that I want to blow a day of calories on eating out. I eat 5-6 smaller meals a day, so I'm also hungry every 2-3 hours, and if I miss/skip a meal to be able to eat out, I would more than likely over eat b/c of that. You know yourself and your goals better than anyone else. I do agree with the poster who said to halve the meal. I was just looking through on-line menus, and since they do give so much food, you could easily halve it I think.
    *edited to say I don't deprive myself of treats, but again, I can get more bang for my buck so to speak by making it myself

    you are going to the wrong restaurants..seriously…

    ETA - the reason I go out, most of the time, is to get a better meal then I can prepare …..
  • dcxens
    dcxens Posts: 3 Member
    We all feel your pain! It can be a trial, but if you plan ahead it's doable, particularly at higher-end or non-chain restaurants. For salads I always order it with grilled chicken or fish. I carry my own low-cal dressing with me, and make them leave off cheese, croutons and all that other fattening stuff. I always take fake butter with me just in case I decide to have a baked potato for dinner (if so, that's all I will eat. A BP is very filling). If there is a grilled/blackened fish or chicken option, I will have it with veggies--if it also comes with rice, I will only eat about a 1/4 cup of the rice. I never touch the bread, appetizers or desserts. I DO save caloric room for a glass or two of wine, but I'm careful to ask the server what the pour volume is (usually runs 4-5 ounces), so I can figure it into my allotment. Many restaurants have menus on line, so I often look them up ahead of time and plug the calories I intend to consume when eating out into my calculator, so I can eat accordingly during the day. This way I never accidentally go over. We're very social, so I eat out 2-3 times a week, and this method has worked beautifully. Mind you, my husband has the freakish metabolism of someone half his age (unfair!) and sometimes it's a serious exercise in willpower to watch him scarf down the huge steak, fries and that glorious piece of pecan turtle cheesecake...
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    We all feel your pain! It can be a trial, but if you plan ahead it's doable, particularly at higher-end or non-chain restaurants. For salads I always order it with grilled chicken or fish. I carry my own low-cal dressing with me, and make them leave off cheese, croutons and all that other fattening stuff. I always take fake butter with me just in case I decide to have a baked potato for dinner (if so, that's all I will eat. A BP is very filling). If there is a grilled/blackened fish or chicken option, I will have it with veggies--if it also comes with rice, I will only eat about a 1/4 cup of the rice. I never touch the bread, appetizers or desserts. I DO save caloric room for a glass or two of wine, but I'm careful to ask the server what the pour volume is (usually runs 4-5 ounces), so I can figure it into my allotment. Many restaurants have menus on line, so I often look them up ahead of time and plug the calories I intend to consume when eating out into my calculator, so I can eat accordingly during the day. This way I never accidentally go over. We're very social, so I eat out 2-3 times a week, and this method has worked beautifully. Mind you, my husband has the freakish metabolism of someone half his age (unfair!) and sometimes it's a serious exercise in willpower to watch him scarf down the huge steak, fries and that glorious piece of pecan turtle cheesecake...

    so you seriously bring your own dressing and fake butter to a restaurant????? That must be an interesting site to see….

    Do you also bring a 1/4 cup to measure the rice…

    this is what I was talking about in my earlier post…you do not need to make going out some complicated event…just go out, try to maintain a deficit, make sensible choices, and have a good time….you cannot make your entire life all about your diet/calorie counting, etc; you need to make it fit into your life, but not become an OCD issue….
  • melissa_tn
    melissa_tn Posts: 37
    I feel the same way about eating out, and have just chosen not to. I feel like I can have a tastier and more satisfying meal at home. I detest the fake taste of grilled chicken in restaurants. I'm not at a point with my weight loss that I want to blow a day of calories on eating out. I eat 5-6 smaller meals a day, so I'm also hungry every 2-3 hours, and if I miss/skip a meal to be able to eat out, I would more than likely over eat b/c of that. You know yourself and your goals better than anyone else. I do agree with the poster who said to halve the meal. I was just looking through on-line menus, and since they do give so much food, you could easily halve it I think.
    *edited to say I don't deprive myself of treats, but again, I can get more bang for my buck so to speak by making it myself

    you are going to the wrong restaurants..seriously…

    ETA - the reason I go out, most of the time, is to get a better meal then I can prepare …..

    maybe you need some cooking lessons! :tongue: I'm sure I have a lower caloric goal for the day than a male, and most of my meals are between 200-300 cal. You just can't get that at a restaurant. Plus, the sodium is crazy! I ate one salad from Chik-fil-A last week and gained a pound (and I did make good choices for dressing). Like I said, I'm not far enough into my weight loss for that to be worth it. yet... I'm happy with what I'm able to get at home and don't really miss it. Now, when vacation time hits, I'll have to make some sacrifices!
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    No issues here. I just eat in moderation or just have a splurge day. :bigsmile:

    OP: What are going to do when you are on vacation?
  • Biggirllittledreams
    Biggirllittledreams Posts: 306 Member
    I agree with you that it's hard to eat perfectly healthy when going out, but it's by no means impossible!

    You need to remember that a healthy diet is by no means overly strict or rigid. So if you go out to eat every now and then, let yourself get something slightly unhealthy! You can't eat perfectly 24/7, nor do you deserve to never treat yourself. :)

    That being said, if you eat out rather frequently (I was literally raised on McDonalds, take out Chinese food & diner food, so I can understand your struggles if you're in a similar situation) you may want to really look into your options when you order certain dishes, by doing things like asking to have your food baked instead of fried, holding the butter/dressing/toppings/etc., or whatever else you can given your options.

    It's a lot easier than it used to be, as at least a few more places are jumping on the 'health wagon', so hopefully things do get easier for you. :) Just dont be afraid to indulge every now and then!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I feel the same way about eating out, and have just chosen not to. I feel like I can have a tastier and more satisfying meal at home. I detest the fake taste of grilled chicken in restaurants. I'm not at a point with my weight loss that I want to blow a day of calories on eating out. I eat 5-6 smaller meals a day, so I'm also hungry every 2-3 hours, and if I miss/skip a meal to be able to eat out, I would more than likely over eat b/c of that. You know yourself and your goals better than anyone else. I do agree with the poster who said to halve the meal. I was just looking through on-line menus, and since they do give so much food, you could easily halve it I think.
    *edited to say I don't deprive myself of treats, but again, I can get more bang for my buck so to speak by making it myself

    you are going to the wrong restaurants..seriously…

    ETA - the reason I go out, most of the time, is to get a better meal then I can prepare …..

    maybe you need some cooking lessons! :tongue: I'm sure I have a lower caloric goal for the day than a male, and most of my meals are between 200-300 cal. You just can't get that at a restaurant. Plus, the sodium is crazy! I ate one salad from Chik-fil-A last week and gained a pound (and I did make good choices for dressing). Like I said, I'm not far enough into my weight loss for that to be worth it. yet... I'm happy with what I'm able to get at home and don't really miss it. Now, when vacation time hits, I'll have to make some sacrifices!

    I grew up in an italian household, I make my own marinara, alfredo, etc from scratch, so I know how to cook.

    Chik-fil-a, applebees, etc is not "eating out"…I am talking about going somewhere where they cook good, real food, like a local spot that has fresh fish, sushi place, steakhouse, etc…..
  • Biggirllittledreams
    Biggirllittledreams Posts: 306 Member
    I feel the same way about eating out, and have just chosen not to. I feel like I can have a tastier and more satisfying meal at home. I detest the fake taste of grilled chicken in restaurants. I'm not at a point with my weight loss that I want to blow a day of calories on eating out. I eat 5-6 smaller meals a day, so I'm also hungry every 2-3 hours, and if I miss/skip a meal to be able to eat out, I would more than likely over eat b/c of that. You know yourself and your goals better than anyone else. I do agree with the poster who said to halve the meal. I was just looking through on-line menus, and since they do give so much food, you could easily halve it I think.
    *edited to say I don't deprive myself of treats, but again, I can get more bang for my buck so to speak by making it myself

    you are going to the wrong restaurants..seriously…

    ETA - the reason I go out, most of the time, is to get a better meal then I can prepare …..

    maybe you need some cooking lessons! :tongue: I'm sure I have a lower caloric goal for the day than a male, and most of my meals are between 200-300 cal. You just can't get that at a restaurant. Plus, the sodium is crazy! I ate one salad from Chik-fil-A last week and gained a pound (and I did make good choices for dressing). Like I said, I'm not far enough into my weight loss for that to be worth it. yet... I'm happy with what I'm able to get at home and don't really miss it. Now, when vacation time hits, I'll have to make some sacrifices!

    You can get that at a restaurant. Just like cooking takes education and practice, so does eating healthy. If you educate yourself about nutrition, you can easily find healthy dishes eating out.

    By the way, Chik-fil-a is a fast food place, not a restaurant. I think you may have the two confused...
  • CA_Underdog
    CA_Underdog Posts: 733 Member
    Plus, the sodium is crazy!

    Indeed. However, it's not too difficult to fit a single 600mg sodium meal into the recommended 1500-2300mg/day. My breakfasts, for example, have almost no sodium. Same for fruits, vegetables, yogurt, rice, etc. those help balance it out.

    Eating fewer calories, it should be easier for you than me. ;)
  • Biggirllittledreams
    Biggirllittledreams Posts: 306 Member
    We all feel your pain! It can be a trial, but if you plan ahead it's doable, particularly at higher-end or non-chain restaurants. For salads I always order it with grilled chicken or fish. I carry my own low-cal dressing with me, and make them leave off cheese, croutons and all that other fattening stuff. I always take fake butter with me just in case I decide to have a baked potato for dinner (if so, that's all I will eat. A BP is very filling). If there is a grilled/blackened fish or chicken option, I will have it with veggies--if it also comes with rice, I will only eat about a 1/4 cup of the rice. I never touch the bread, appetizers or desserts. I DO save caloric room for a glass or two of wine, but I'm careful to ask the server what the pour volume is (usually runs 4-5 ounces), so I can figure it into my allotment. Many restaurants have menus on line, so I often look them up ahead of time and plug the calories I intend to consume when eating out into my calculator, so I can eat accordingly during the day. This way I never accidentally go over. We're very social, so I eat out 2-3 times a week, and this method has worked beautifully. Mind you, my husband has the freakish metabolism of someone half his age (unfair!) and sometimes it's a serious exercise in willpower to watch him scarf down the huge steak, fries and that glorious piece of pecan turtle cheesecake...

    If you're going to do that, why eat out at all? Why not just bring your own food? It seems rather counterproductive to go out to eat, and bring the ingredients with you; it's okay to splurge every now and then. A few tablespoons of dressing or a few teaspoons of butter won't kill you if you consume them in moderation.
  • ianthy
    ianthy Posts: 404 Member
    Hi

    My approach is that i am paying the bill so can ask for the food to be prepared how i want it.

    Salad served with no croutons and dressing low cal dressing on the side then i can add as little or much as i want. Sometimes i will order roasted root vegetables as a starter - which can be filling and tasty. I generally go for the fish option for main course and insist on it being grilled with a drop of oil. I am always clear with the waiter if you bring my food with dressing on or loads of oil - then i will have to send it back. Always works for me.

    Yes - eating out takes some planning when you are on a diet/healthy eating programme but don't be afraid to ask for you want.
  • lemon629
    lemon629 Posts: 501 Member
    I frequently eat out. Just eat slowly, be careful with the bread/chips, don't drink alcohol or only one drink, no dessert. You may want to be careful with sauces and salad dressings, but no need for major modifications. Split the entree in half and ask for it to be boxed up. Follow these rules and you will probably continue to lose weight. I lost 60 pounds eating like that.

    well that sounds boring…..i have never been one for rules...

    Not boring at all. Very easy. I never thought of the above as rules, just my plan and it worked well and I was 100% satisfied. I ate delicious gourmet restaurant food almost every day-- TexMex, Chinese, sushi, barbecue, steak and potatoes.... And I never asked for modifications due to calorie concerns-- any modification I made was about taste. Most restaurant portions are easily double what they should be.
    I wasn't careful with sauces, by the way, but like I said some may want to be.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    We all feel your pain! It can be a trial, but if you plan ahead it's doable, particularly at higher-end or non-chain restaurants. For salads I always order it with grilled chicken or fish. I carry my own low-cal dressing with me, and make them leave off cheese, croutons and all that other fattening stuff. I always take fake butter with me just in case I decide to have a baked potato for dinner (if so, that's all I will eat. A BP is very filling). If there is a grilled/blackened fish or chicken option, I will have it with veggies--if it also comes with rice, I will only eat about a 1/4 cup of the rice. I never touch the bread, appetizers or desserts. I DO save caloric room for a glass or two of wine, but I'm careful to ask the server what the pour volume is (usually runs 4-5 ounces), so I can figure it into my allotment. Many restaurants have menus on line, so I often look them up ahead of time and plug the calories I intend to consume when eating out into my calculator, so I can eat accordingly during the day. This way I never accidentally go over. We're very social, so I eat out 2-3 times a week, and this method has worked beautifully. Mind you, my husband has the freakish metabolism of someone half his age (unfair!) and sometimes it's a serious exercise in willpower to watch him scarf down the huge steak, fries and that glorious piece of pecan turtle cheesecake...

    If you're going to do that, why eat out at all? Why not just bring your own food? It seems rather counterproductive to go out to eat, and bring the ingredients with you; it's okay to splurge every now and then. A few tablespoons of dressing or a few teaspoons of butter won't kill you if you consume them in moderation.

    LOL …now that would be hilarious..show up at a restaurant with some chicken breast and rice and say "will you cook this for me" ..or just show up with a to go box, sit down, and start eating…..bahahahaha that would be an awesome prank….
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    One meal doesn't ruin your progress.

    Make it fit. If you know ahead of time you are going out for the weekend, budget your cals over the week to cover it or/and get in some extra exercise. This goes for eating out at restaurants or fast food joints. It's not "bad".

    Also, your meals don't have to be evenly portioned out calorie wise. I can eat 1000cals for one of my 5-6 meals and the rest of them be 100-300 cals.

    Flexibility is something you might want to work on, just my opinion. From my experience, being overly rigid leads to rage quit because you get so frustrated thinking one wrong step is going to ruin it all.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I frequently eat out. Just eat slowly, be careful with the bread/chips, don't drink alcohol or only one drink, no dessert. You may want to be careful with sauces and salad dressings, but no need for major modifications. Split the entree in half and ask for it to be boxed up. Follow these rules and you will probably continue to lose weight. I lost 60 pounds eating like that.

    well that sounds boring…..i have never been one for rules...

    Not boring at all. Very easy. I never thought of the above as rules, just my plan and it worked well and I was 100% satisfied. I ate delicious gourmet restaurant food almost every day-- TexMex, Chinese, sushi, barbecue, steak and potatoes.... And I never asked for modifications due to calorie concerns-- any modification I made was about taste. Most restaurant portions are easily double what they should be.
    I wasn't careful with sauces, by the way, but like I said some may want to be.

    *yawn*
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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Does anyone else feel like there are almost no healthy options when eating out? I go through all the online menus, looks at the calories/fat/carb and it just seems almost impossible to find something within my daily allowance, especially if you care about the macros too. Sometimes I find a salad that is 300 calories but then I find that it has all the fat that I can eat in a day -_- and there is no way of avoiding fat for the rest of my meals. And yes, I know most of it is the dressing, but that's just an example. In general, i just find it very hard to find something that I can eat and doesn't make me starve the rest of the day.
    I have been making good progress but most of what I eat is at home, I rarely eat out. I don't miss eating greasy unhealthy stuff that much, but I do miss the easiness of just spending the day around town and not having to get back to the apartment to eat.
    We generally go to lunch just about every Saturday or Sunday, so I save some calories up from the week to compensate, and then I usually do a good run that day or on Sunday. Sometimes I go over my total at the end of the week, but most of the time I am under or pretty close on the mark.

    It's important to eat out sometimes, and since you are making lifestyle changes that is something you don't want to cut out. Also, It's the end week calorie count that matters. :smile:
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I usually chalk up an eating out day to the FATES, particularly The Greek Moirai and of them, Lachesis whom I blame for the selections of food I make. Hey, why should I take the blame for falling off the wagon?

    why does eating out have to equal "falling off the wagon"…I do not understand that mentality ...
  • GiveMeCoffee
    GiveMeCoffee Posts: 3,556 Member
    Wow why bother going out if you are bringing your own dressing, fake butter??? no croutons? If you are going out to eat it should be enjoyed!

    Tomorrow is Mother's Day I'll be going out, and most likely well almost definitely I will be over for the day.. it's all right I'll probably be around maintenance for the day and if not, it's all good I start with a clean slate the next day and maybe I go an extra week with no weight loss. Not a major problem.

    Part of this process is learning how to continue into maintenance, are you planning on never going out to eat again?
  • Justkeepswimmin
    Justkeepswimmin Posts: 777 Member
    Honestly it depends on where you live; there are certain places I will not live because I could never go out. However, some cities do have options for us; even if it requires modifications from time to time. Try also to yelp and not just go with any old chain restaurant.
  • hancockj17
    hancockj17 Posts: 1 Member
    There are some healthy options out there. I love a Mediterranean place with grilled chicken kabobs, hummus and lentils. One meal is enough for 3 meals. Egg drop soup is low calories and fat. Salads with balsamic vinegar and a teaspoon of olive oil. Just do some research ahead of time.
  • crissi725
    crissi725 Posts: 82
    Stop "dieting" and start thinking about how to eat healthy for the rest of your life, and that includes having the occasional over-indulgent meal. In other words learn moderation and learn to give yourself a break and that it's okay to have some fun every once in a while.


    ^^^^ yes! all of this ^^^^^
  • seltzermint555
    seltzermint555 Posts: 10,740 Member
    I usually just order smaller portions, or don't eat everything...like today we went out for Chinese, I opted for a lunch special with tons of steamed vegetables, and ate the beef (non-fried of course) and maybe one tbsp of the rice. I'm sure I still blew my sodium due to the soy sauce based glazed on the beef but that's okay, it will be 1-2 times in a month that I'll do that.

    Just the other day I went to Steak N' Shake and enjoyed a double steakburger (around 400 cal). But I didn't eat fries or anything like that along with it. Still a very satisfying lunch, and I compensated for it by having vegetables and grilled salmon for dinner and blackberries for 'dessert' so my macros for that day were fine. For me, the options are there I just have to do a little research. Years ago (before MFP) I would have ordered the Frisco Melt (750+) and a shake (HOLY MOLY...like 900 cal just from the shake) and of course fries came with it, so I'd eat those too back then.

    As long as you're not going out to restaurants daily or several times a week, I see no real issue with it, even when it means guessing sometimes on the calories.

    I personally do not usually waste time with chains for "better meals" like Thai, Mexican, Greek, sushi, Indian, etc. I would rather go out for the real deal in non chain places - less frequently of course - and fully enjoy the meal!
  • melimomTARDIS
    melimomTARDIS Posts: 1,941 Member
    I eat out at restaurants all the time. Once a week my husband I go to dinner to a casual resturaunt, we have a pizza place, a sub shop, a family dining place, and a Mexican food place in town.

    Once a week I take the children to a fast food restaurant with a really nice play center.

    I have my own "rules" at when I eat out to make it easy on myself, at restaurants I pick grilled chicken/shrimp or fish. Rarely steak, but sometimes. I choose baked potato instead of fries when possible. I have black decaf coffee with sweet n low as dessert, and a hard candy.

    At fast food I have a ketchup only kids meal hamburger, a side salad, reduced cal dressing, and diet coke.

    I factor eating out into the rest of my day, and if I really go binge crazy ( a few weeks back, I had an EPIC breakfast-a Denver three egg omlette with ham, a huge pancake, and a sausage) so I didn't eat again till dinner, which was a bowl of oats with shredded carrots, raisins, and apples. Still stayed in calories. :)
  • w2bab
    w2bab Posts: 353 Member
    We have found several things we can eat at a variety of restaurant by trying to make healthy choices and then seeing how it affects the scale the next day. (yes, we weigh daily). The main thing for us isn't so much the calorie content (grilled meat and veggies is pretty much grilled meat and veggies no matter where you eat it) but we try to watch our sodium intake. It took a little trial and error, but we have discovered that we have yummy options just about any place we choose to go, and we eat out about once a week. We do make a habit of subbing veggies for the baked potato or fries option, but other than that, it's regular menu stuff.
  • theserpah
    theserpah Posts: 109 Member
    I think eating out, when measured in daily allotments is virtually impossible. That's why I don't allow myself to look at it that way. I tend to always consume less and burn more than I need in order to eat out periodically. Same reason I bring my lunch to work and brew coffee in the office. It allows me to enjoy going out for the occasional lunch/coffee without feeling any guilt.
  • seltzermint555
    seltzermint555 Posts: 10,740 Member
    I eat out at restaurants all the time. Once a week my husband I go to dinner to a casual resturaunt, we have a pizza place, a sub shop, a family dining place, and a Mexican food place in town.

    Once a week I take the children to a fast food restaurant with a really nice play center.

    I have my own "rules" at when I eat out to make it easy on myself, at restaurants I pick grilled chicken/shrimp or fish. Rarely steak, but sometimes. I choose baked potato instead of fries when possible. I have black decaf coffee with sweet n low as dessert, and a hard candy.

    At fast food I have a ketchup only kids meal hamburger, a side salad, reduced cal dressing, and diet coke.

    I factor eating out into the rest of my day, and if I really go binge crazy ( a few weeks back, I had an EPIC breakfast-a Denver three egg omlette with ham, a huge pancake, and a sausage) so I didn't eat again till dinner, which was a bowl of oats with shredded carrots, raisins, and apples. Still stayed in calories. :)

    You sound a lot like me with the big meal and then "catch up" dinner after. Works great though!!

    I also have learned to loooove black coffee especially cold brew with coffee cubes from the coffee shop. I seriously like it better than my previous lattes and mochas.
  • Jestinia
    Jestinia Posts: 1,153 Member
    You have options.

    1. Intermittent fasting of some form. Skip eating (or eating much) a day before, a day after, or don't eat breakfast and lunch if you''re going out to dinner. This isn't nearly as difficult as it sounds for the more sedentary among us and might actually have health benefits. I probably wouldn't do it if I worked a very physical job, though.

    2. Save calories all week by shaving off a couple hundred from every day. (Maybe not if you're diabetic or have other health issues.)

    3. Just tally the week up as maintenance and enjoy your dinner (this only works if you don't do it too often of course).

    4. A lot more exercise all week.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    You have options.

    1. Intermittent fasting of some form. Skip eating (or eating much) a day before, a day after, or don't eat breakfast and lunch if you''re going out to dinner. This isn't nearly as difficult as it sounds for the more sedentary among us and might actually have health benefits. I probably wouldn't do it if I worked a very physical job, though.

    2. Save calories all week by shaving off a couple hundred from every day. (Maybe not if you're diabetic or have other health issues.)

    3. Just tally the week up as maintenance and enjoy your dinner (this only works if you don't do it too often of course).

    4. A lot more exercise all week.

    point one is not IF ….

    IF is something that you do all the time consistently, not just when you over eat…

    also, not sure that is healthiest mentality to have that says "eat a big meal, and then skip your next one because you ever eat"….