Does a weight gain mean a performance drop in cardio?

Jamal_Guildford
Jamal_Guildford Posts: 214 Member
in Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
Hi,

I have been gaining a few pounds in the past weeks (probably feel some fat and a bit of muscle). I noticed I really struggled on the treadmill this morning (more than usual). I also noticed my heartbeat has increased since I gained weight.

So is it normal to performed less well in cardio when we gain weight?

Thanks,
Jamal

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  • Kr1ptonite
    Kr1ptonite Posts: 789 Member
    Maybe your just abit run down
  • TheLittleFangs
    TheLittleFangs Posts: 205 Member
    My weight affects me. I lost 28lbs then got stuck back on meds that helped me gain it all back. At my lightest I could run 40 minutes, at the minute I can manage 10 - 20
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    Hi,

    I have been gaining a few pounds in the past weeks (probably feel some fat and a bit of muscle). I noticed I really struggled on the treadmill this morning (more than usual). I also noticed my heartbeat has increased since I gained weight.

    So is it normal to performed less well in cardio when we gain weight?

    Thanks,
    Jamal

    a 'few pounds' wont make a difference i wouldnt have thought.
  • EmmaNilsson77
    EmmaNilsson77 Posts: 38 Member
    Why did you gain the weight, though? Not exercising as much? That's probably more to do with why. It's said you can start to see a drop in performance levels after as little of 2-3 weeks of inactivity.
    That said, it's possible. Try going for a run with a couple pound weights and see if that doesn't make things a bit difficult.
  • tycho_mx
    tycho_mx Posts: 426 Member
    Weird. Being heavy and muscular definitely makes it harder to go uphill, but not necessarily on a flat treadmill run. Fat, however, definitely slows you down. It's not just the weight, it makes you less efficient at shedding heat and so your body overheats quicker. Which makes it say "slow down, buddy". It's been studied that when marathon runners or other athletes reach a temperature of 41 C they are about to reach their limit. The body doesn't like getting much hotter than that.

    Maybe you're just fatigued from all the workouts? Take a few days easy or off and see what happens.
  • Jamal_Guildford
    Jamal_Guildford Posts: 214 Member
    Weird. Being heavy and muscular definitely makes it harder to go uphill, but not necessarily on a flat treadmill run. Fat, however, definitely slows you down. It's not just the weight, it makes you less efficient at shedding heat and so your body overheats quicker. Which makes it say "slow down, buddy". It's been studied that when marathon runners or other athletes reach a temperature of 41 C they are about to reach their limit. The body doesn't like getting much hotter than that.

    Maybe you're just fatigued from all the workouts? Take a few days easy or off and see what happens.

    I usually put some inclines when I run. Maybe I went a bit too far on the peanut butter which contains more fat than protein.
  • SuperC_85
    SuperC_85 Posts: 393
    Maybe I went a bit too far on the peanut butter which contains more fat than protein.

    Were you under your calorie goals?
    Then no this wont matter at all.
  • Jamal_Guildford
    Jamal_Guildford Posts: 214 Member
    Maybe I went a bit too far on the peanut butter which contains more fat than protein.

    Were you under your calorie goals?
    Then no this wont matter at all.

    Yes I was. I am trying to increase high protein food gradually: whey protein, milk, peanut butter, eggs and tuna.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Since the measure of aerobic fitness is VO2max, and it is mL per kg per min - yes, as you increase weight if that doesn't improve it actually lowers.

    So either at the same HR your pace will slow, or to keep the same pace your HR will go up.

    The amount of change obvious depends on how much weight change, and where was your fitness level.

    If poor fitness level (low VO2) then change of weight is bigger impact. More fit - not as much.

    Gravity being involved effects it more. Running will see effect more than cycling, and up the incline on either is more than the flat effort.

    That being said, I'm betting it's related to other stuff, because those changes above would have been just as gradual as the weight change, and probably not noticeable until you compared performance from past stats to current and saw the difference.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Maybe I went a bit too far on the peanut butter which contains more fat than protein.

    Were you under your calorie goals?
    Then no this wont matter at all.

    Yes I was. I am trying to increase high protein food gradually: whey protein, milk, peanut butter, eggs and tuna.

    Ya, peanut butter would not fall in the grouping of high protein, not per calories per serving by any means.

    And no, that would not have caused fat gain if eating at a calorie goal that is still less than you burn.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    It depends.

    However, the core question being: "Can being overweight for a task result in less than optimal performance in that task?"

    Yes.
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    I'd say yes. My 5k has slowed drastically since my bulk where I added 7lb of muscle and fat. My heart rate is faster too.

    But I put those goals aside to concentrate on bulking.

    Isn't that what you're supposed to be doing?
  • carliekitty
    carliekitty Posts: 303 Member
    I gained 20 lbs last year between vacations and the holidays, and i could feel it on my daily run. Running three felt like six =( good news i took it off pretty fast and yes it made a huge difference =) i do notice sometimes when i am banking calories to offset a dinner out that my runs suffer w the lower calories as well. Usually a good meal or a few hundred extra cals one day and i am back to normal.
  • PJPrimrose
    PJPrimrose Posts: 916 Member
    I got lighter, more muscular (by a bit) and quite a bit faster kick boxing from that so I'd say yes.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    I'd say yes. My 5k has slowed drastically since my bulk where I added 7lb of muscle and fat. My heart rate is faster too.

    But I put those goals aside to concentrate on bulking.

    Isn't that what you're supposed to be doing?

    During that time, did you decrease your concentration on cardio? I went from 165-173lbs and became a much stronger 5K runner, and even stronger 10K.
  • AliceDark
    AliceDark Posts: 3,886 Member
    Just reading through your previous posts, it seems like you have a decent amount of anxiety about gaining. That's totally normal, but there's a good chance the anxiety itself is interfering with your cardio performance. You said it's only been a few weeks and you've only gained a pound or two, right? It's more likely that you're expecting/afraid to see a drop in cardio performance (and so your body is responding in kind) than that a few weeks of eating at a surplus and a couple of extra pounds is really negatively affecting your cardio.
  • Jamal_Guildford
    Jamal_Guildford Posts: 214 Member
    I'd say yes. My 5k has slowed drastically since my bulk where I added 7lb of muscle and fat. My heart rate is faster too.

    But I put those goals aside to concentrate on bulking.

    Isn't that what you're supposed to be doing?

    Totally agreed. I would sacrifice my fitness skills to gain muscle and fat. Want to be stronger.....
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    I'd say yes. My 5k has slowed drastically since my bulk where I added 7lb of muscle and fat. My heart rate is faster too.

    But I put those goals aside to concentrate on bulking.

    Isn't that what you're supposed to be doing?

    During that time, did you decrease your concentration on cardio? I went from 165-173lbs and became a much stronger 5K runner, and even stronger 10K.

    You know what, I did do far less training on cardio. I have been back training like before for about 6 weeks now. Yet to test my 5k but it really is slower. I did that 21 min 5k after 6 months of training so I shall wait and see, but I don't feel light on my feet yet. I'm small framed too. Time will tell. I just beat last years 10k by 1 minute but I felt awful afterwards, I don't think I'm fitter, just more crazy!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,989 Member
    Carrying more weight with no increase in strength or muscle will usually lower your performance in cardio based exercise.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • Chieflrg
    Chieflrg Posts: 9,097 Member
    While gain in weight will effect running efficiency, "struggling" would have more to do with your rest, enough carbs in your diet, extreme temperatures etc...

    If you are bulking, you would be lifting greater weight that would also tax your body more than normal when you do cardo.
  • spideywebb77
    spideywebb77 Posts: 126 Member
    i do notice sometimes when i am banking calories to offset a dinner out that my runs suffer w the lower calories as well. Usually a good meal or a few hundred extra cals one day and i am back to normal.

    I think this has more impact than most realize. When I start getting sluggish it is usually becasue I am not eating enough... or if I am at goal maybe I measured something wrong. It's intresiting ahat a 100 extra calories can do for you when you feel run down.
  • kleshas
    kleshas Posts: 2 Member
    Yeah, I definitely notice a huge difference in my ability to do cardio related to the amount of calories I had the previous day.
  • kdiamond
    kdiamond Posts: 3,329 Member
    If you're bulking I'd limit the cardio anyhow. Focus more on your lifts.
  • dimoul
    dimoul Posts: 137 Member
    According to Matt Fitzerald, the answer is Yes. http://running.competitor.com/2014/01/nutrition/racing-weight-how-much-should-you-weigh_14665

    My own experience with cycling is that I got a lot faster after I lost 80 lbs. My endurance, average speed and power, as well as sprinting ability all increased dramatically.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    According to Matt Fitzerald, the answer is Yes. http://running.competitor.com/2014/01/nutrition/racing-weight-how-much-should-you-weigh_14665

    My own experience with cycling is that I got a lot faster after I lost 80 lbs. My endurance, average speed and power, as well as sprinting ability all increased dramatically.

    And even mechanical things probably improved - like ability to stay tucked longer while taking deeper breaths like you needed.
    This help going in to the wind, and going uphills a tad longer tucked while speed is high.
  • dimoul
    dimoul Posts: 137 Member
    According to Matt Fitzerald, the answer is Yes. http://running.competitor.com/2014/01/nutrition/racing-weight-how-much-should-you-weigh_14665

    My own experience with cycling is that I got a lot faster after I lost 80 lbs. My endurance, average speed and power, as well as sprinting ability all increased dramatically.

    And even mechanical things probably improved - like ability to stay tucked longer while taking deeper breaths like you needed.
    This help going in to the wind, and going uphills a tad longer tucked while speed is high.

    Yeah, i think that's right. I noticed that I got faster even though my power meter on the bike wasn't showing i was putting more in. As the gut gets smaller, you can tuck into a more aero position and go faster. the same is going to be true for running and swimming. in any endurance sport, really, the less drag and dead weight you have, the easier it is / faster you can go.
  • msncush
    msncush Posts: 23 Member
    I read that in a week, one of your workouts will be kick-*kitten*, one just so-so and one that you struggle with.
    Just do it anyway and you will feel better afterwards.
  • Jamal_Guildford
    Jamal_Guildford Posts: 214 Member
    I gained a few pounds in the past week and despite reducing the run, I still manage to run at 7.3mph on the treadmill (i.e. no drop in the cardio) :)
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    I gained a few pounds in the past week and despite reducing the run, I still manage to run at 7.3mph on the treadmill (i.e. no drop in the cardio) :)

    Keep records of your heart rate to be scientific rather than anecdotal.

    My heart rate went down as my weight dropped and my speed went up. That's from going from 127lb to 123lb, which was about 16% body fat! some would say underweight (BMI was on the lightest side of healthy) but my heart was under less stress. If I was primarily a runner I'd have to consider being that light again.
  • horndave
    horndave Posts: 565
    There is a correlation on run times and weight. Typical Army PT test, when I am 5 to 10 lbs lighter than what I currently I am, consistently run a minute to a minute and half faster.

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