Weight Watchers Vs Calorie Control
CosmicPopSocks
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Hi there,
I'm been following Fitness Pal for about 2 weeks now but am also registered with Weight Watchers...Has anyone experience with weight watchers? How do you think it compares with just calorie counting on here? I'm interested to see how it compares and if one is better an the other.
Many thanks.
I'm been following Fitness Pal for about 2 weeks now but am also registered with Weight Watchers...Has anyone experience with weight watchers? How do you think it compares with just calorie counting on here? I'm interested to see how it compares and if one is better an the other.
Many thanks.
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Hello, I have done both but find calorie counting on MFP much better for me personally. I guess it depends 'how' you're wanting to eat though.
What I mean by this is, are you intending to eat nutritionally well, or just calorie count 'regular' foods. If you just want a method of counting regular foods then WW might be worth a go, as they have the 'eat anything so long as its within the points' focus. If you are wanting to make a healthier and nutritionally balanced diet and are interested in balacing your macros etc, I would recommed MFP instead.0 -
I have done both as well. I started out with WW last year and transitioned to MFP when I was about 6 months into it.
Weight Watchers is a good program and does take a common sense approach (portion control, logging, weighing food) and does encourage you to make better choices by making most fruits/veggies 0 points. It also focuses a lot on building healthy habits.
One of the main things that I didn't like about it was that their food database was in need of a serious update. There were a lot of foods missing or had incorrect points (including their own products).
Their focus on exercise was pretty much non-existent unless they had their activity monitor on sale.0 -
I've tried WW twice. I had a hard time following it. To me, it is easier to use MFP. The database is bigger and it's easier to count the calories. I had issues with WW trying to figure out how many points something would have if it wasn't in the database. You need to do what you find easier for you to use.0
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I was on Weight Watchers when I found this site and changed over to calorie counting.
I get more food with calorie counting than I ever did on Weight Watchers.
Like many other posters said, I also find a bigger variety of food on here compared to ww food list.
Oh and this is FREE!0 -
I have done weight watchers twice before and took about 30 pounds off (and regained it). I didn't get a lot out of the meetings except accountability (which is huge) however once I missed two meetings in a row I was done. I thought about doing it again but my Dr recommended seeing a nutritionist instead so I started tracking here which I prefer to the last WW app I used. It all depends what works for you, it is a good program.0
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I'm doing both WW (online only) and MFP - well I'm really doing WW but double checking protein on MFP & lurking in the forums. I don't agree that MFP is for "eating healthier" - it's all about eating within your calorie and macro limits (which you can set), nothing else. Both programs give you the ability to set your own diet (paleo, vegan, low carb, SAD, whatever) so how you eat is down to you.
It's all in what works for you. I like the smaller numbers on WW (if I'm doing math in my head, an extra four activity points added to my daily 26 is easier to work with/remember than 314 calories added to 1260), plus free fruits and some veggies does encourage me to eat fruits/veggies which I personally need. Basically it sort of dumbs everything down for me, which I both want and need right now. Losing weight/getting fit is not the number one priority in my life, and WW helps me fit it in.
OTOH plenty of people prefer MFP, and it has the big advantage of being free. MFP forums also seem saner and more supportive.0 -
I followed the Weight Watchers plan like 10 years and lost 25lbs. Honestly, I just do MFP now because it's free. I don't really see a difference in effectiveness between the two (although I think back then I liked the online community a little more with WW), my motivation was much better back then. I think that has more to do with where I was in my life versus the programs.
At this point in my life, I do appreciate the opportunity to see the breakdown in my macros/micros.0 -
I did WW for years, when I left I basically worked out that I was on 1100-1200 cals per day. I was hungry all the time & it just was not sustainable, therefore I was just yoyoing - loosing and gaining the same few lbs. The leaders had very little nutritional knowledge - it was all about WW products and finding the lowest calorie version of foods possible (regardless of their nutritional value).
I'm now on 1650 cals per day, loads of energy, not hungry all the time and i'm losing on average 1.5lb per week consistently. The data base on MFP is far better.
WW just made me obsess about finding the lowest calorie version of every food - like bread which was 50 cals a slice and was basically air with no nutritional value at all and therefore not filling. Now I eat a multi grain delicious bread which is so filling and keeps me full for hours. Low fat yogurts which tasted awful (i had a full fat yogurt the other day for the first time in years - it tasted divine). I did WW for so long, that I didn't realise how tired I was - now I eat more foods which provide the nutrition and energy that my body needs.
I thought I would miss the online support on WW, but I feel that there is more nutritional info & knowledge on MFP.0 -
I am not a member, but my friend is and she told me (while I was telling her about MFP's whole theory of a calorie deficit) that WW doesn't really do that. It focuses more on healthy choice, lifestyle change, eating less, etc. She said it really does not count calories. Maybe she has hers set differently than most, I don't know but she does not even look at calories.0
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I did WW 3x...I have done MFP 1x...
There is the difference...
WW does not promote fat loss it's all about weight loss...doesn't matter where it comes from
Portion size is out there, weighing food, weekly weigh in (but that promotes starving for the day then binging afterward for some), when I did it you could earn points through exercise...free fruit and veggies to encourage "healthy" eating
But to be frank I have learned more here in a year than I ever did with WW...I am maintaining muscle mass...getting in enough calories so I can exercise and not feel faint.
I hated walking around the store too with that points card checking everything to see if I could fit in my daily points (which wasn't a lot)
Now I buy what I want, log my food (usually prelog for a week) and bam I know I have hit my macros, I am within goal and I will have enough energy to exercise..0 -
This is free.0
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But to be frank I have learned more here in a year than I ever did with WW...I am maintaining muscle mass...getting in enough calories so I can exercise and not feel faint.
This is the biggest reason why I am so thankful for the MFP forums. I never knew that strength training was so important until I started lurking on here.0 -
I had much success with Weight Watchers after I had each of my two older kids. More recently, after my third baby, I thought I'd give it a try. The plan had changed quite a bit, and I found it pretty tedious to track. (And to be honest, I also find it tedious to track on MFP, so that's not really a fair complaint.) I also kept trying to trick the system to get more for my points (for example, a recipe was often fewer points than entering food items separately.) With MFP, there are no tricks--a calorie is a calorie.
I also hated the WW online forum. MFP has its fair share of boobs, but there's lots of good nutrition information given out too. When I was using WW, there was a gaggle of zealots who were really annoying. I remember saying something about how my hot cocoa had calcium and so I counted it as a milk serving (on the old WW plan this was allowed) and boy was I in trouble for that!0 -
Weight watchers has changed their approach and a calorie is not just a calorie any more. That said... I found the weight watcher system overly complicated and too simplistic at the same time.
The points method is semi complicated with "cheat points" and exercise points and normal points and a points calculator etc.
The free raw fruits and veggies would have me never loosing weight. I would not gorge myself on this but I would eat till I truely felt full...which would make me fine with point counts but over on calories...thus no weight loss.
The support groups can be good to bleh...and I found more bleh then good. I really dont need to sit for an hour through a group session to learn something I could have in 5 min online..or something I already know.
The support part was really semi-minimal in my experience. WW was even free from work but not worth it IMO.0 -
I started weight watchers when I was in 8th grade [old program many many many many years ago] and decided to try it again after the birth of my 3rd child. It worked for a while and then i went on to just using mfp. A few months ago I started doing it again, and also logged everything on mfp and realized I was way under 1200 calories, even more so on days I worked out. [which is almost everyday] I hated how unhealthy that was so I stopped doing it.0
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I lost about 60 pounds on Weight Watchers before completely stalling out. I don't blame WW for the plateau, but I found that counting calories has helped break my plateau for a few reasons:
1. I was eating A LOT of fruit and veggies in addition to eating nearly all my WW points. Though fruits and veggies are 0 points, they still have calories. So I was probably eating well over my weight loss calorie goal even though I was still within my points.
2. Exercise isn't a big focus with WW and I workout a lot -- training for a half marathon, running a half marathon, cycling upwards of 20 miles at a time and strength/circuit training. MFP has a better system for tracking exercise and eating some of the calories back bust still saying at a net goal.
3. WW didn't allow me to track carbs, protein and fat in an easy way, so I have no idea if I was eating a balanced diet.
I think WW is a great tool to start with to learn how to eat better foods and incorporate more fruits and veggies, but I've found that MFP is better for someone who understands calories and nutrition and who works out a lot.0 -
I also tried WW more than once. Besides the cost, I did not like the points system. I agree with a previous post...I was always hungry! With MFP, I can eat whatever I like, within my daily goals. Since I prepare most of my food, I can enter recipes that I use. The database is great and a good tool when planning to go out for dinner. With MFP, I have been losing weight without feeling deprived. I cook the same way for the family and they aren't feeling deprived either. In my opinion, managing your weight loss with MFP is more sustainable and realistic. & free.
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WW is also all about eating at a deficit but their system really doesn't make you think about WHAT calories you are eating, it just makes the calorie counting easier to do. I had excellent success on their program but I was not paying attention to my macros, just trying to get as much food for my points as possible. As a result, I was not eating nearly enough fat and I was a bit low on protein too. Four months in, my hair started falling out which is kind of my personal "canary in the coal mine" telling me I am not eating as nutritiously as I should be. The fault is mine, not WW but they really don't make it easy to follow macro and micronutrients.0
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To me a banana is not free. It is too calorie dense, high in carbs and sugar. How can it be free? I liked WW years ago, but think now they really messed up a good thing. I much prefer MFP, and the fact that it is also free of charge is an added bonus!!!0
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To me a banana is not free. It is too calorie dense, high in carbs and sugar. How can it be free? I liked WW years ago, but think now they really messed up a good thing. I much prefer MFP, and the fact that it is also free of charge is an added bonus!!!
This.
There's a right way and a wrong way to use WW, and some people misuse it. I knew a girl who was very overweight, probably obese, and she would just eat like two pounds of strawberries, pineapple, bananas, and blueberries for dinner, saying it was worth 0 points and therefore she could eat garbage later.
Fruit is healthy, and I get that WW wants to help people learn to eat healthy, but it doesn't work when people don't understand how calories/carbs/sugar and whatnot function within the body.0 -
I was a lifetimer with WW since 1985. Yeah.
In 2009, I stopped going and started using VARIOUS online services and apps, some I liked better than others. I ended up with MFP and have stayed.
Healthy living is a big experiment. I was told from the 1980s that whole grains and vegetarian lifestyle would best help me control my already evident genetic cardiovascular issues. A few years ago, I switched to Autoimmune Protocol and went from needing meds (for CVD) to having PERFECT blood panels. Who knew? Heck, I did it for my lupus but ended up fixing my other thing (so far, 3 years and counting, touch wood!).
Unfortunately, I'm not somebody who can just eat healthy food. I can gluttonise anything, anywhere, so I continue to track food. It's also a MASSIVE plus the last few years with MFP because I can whip out and share with my doctor EVERYTHING I've been eating when a malabsorption issue comes up, like anemia, for example. 'You're not getting enough iron.' Then I can show exactly how much I am getting.
You don't get that with WW. I continue to try new things and keep as healthy as possible whether I'm a size 2 or a size 10.0 -
I had great success with WW but I do prefer MFP because it is free.0
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To me a banana is not free. It is too calorie dense, high in carbs and sugar. How can it be free? I liked WW years ago, but think now they really messed up a good thing. I much prefer MFP, and the fact that it is also free of charge is an added bonus!!!
Our WW leader told us this when everyone had concerns about bananas being "free", she would say, "nobody ever got fat from eating too many bananas!!", that always stuck with me because it is true!!0 -
I have done weightwatchers for years, and I like the fact that fruit can be eaten throughout the day within reason. I am finding on mfp I use all my calories, but am not eating the required 5 portions of fruit and veg a day.
I decided to try my fitness pal because my weight loss stalled on weightwatchers, and I needed something to get my weight loss moving again.
I still seem to be eating the same healthy foods I was eating on the filling and healthy weight watcher plan. I hope this helps0 -
I did WW for years, did OK but wasn't losing that much.Checked on here and found out just how many calories I'd been consuming in 'free' fruit! Not saying it doesn't work, just that I wasn't good at it.
Also they push their products so much, and if you want to work out PPoints in stuff you need to buy their books, calculators etc whereas almost anything you can buy already has calorie counts on it.
Then I found out they were a NY stock exchange company, and wasn't too pleased about shareholders profiting from my weight problems!
Furthermore, MFP is free, so I'm saving a lot of money.0 -
I have done both and both are very good programs. I have lost weight on both and kept it off. Both programs focus on calorie deficiency but in different ways. One count points while the other count calories. Both teach about the scientific facts about weight loss, behavior change, exercise, and weight management. I still use the free stuff from WW like their Science Center, recipes, and exercise videos.
It also depends on where you are in life. When I started WW, I worked full time with mandatory over time, manage a house, attended college, while raising two children. I wanted a healthy, simple, common sense method to lose weight. I was not interested in counting calories, weighing food, or calculating macros. It was important but not my top priority. Fast forward some years, my life isn’t as busy. Now, I have more time to invest in my journey of weight management. I switched to MFP, not because I wasn’t still learning from WW,because it is free.
At the end of the day, the best program for you will be the one that you will be able to stick to in order to achieve your goal of losing weight and keeping if off.0 -
Hi, I recently did Weight Watchers for 8 months and only lost a total of 3 lbs..I even exercised an hour a day and lifted weights 3x a week. In addition, I went to weekly meetings, tracked everything, and drank lots of water. I only had 20 lbs. to lose, but I felt defeated. I was worried there was something wrong with my body and I wasn't capable of losing weight. In retrospect, the reason WW didn't work for me, was because the plan says that fruits and vegetables are 0 points. Maybe that works for some people, but I'm convinced that was the reason I didn't do well on the WW plan. I would eat 1-3 bananas a day and a couple of salads and wasn't suppose to count any of that. With myfitnesspal, I've lost 8 lbs. in 2 months. Anyway, I know WW works for people that have a lot of weight to lose, but I also know people who have a lot of weight to lose do well on myfitnesspal. I am thankful for the time I had at WW, because the meetings helped me realize a lot of things I hadn't thought about. I began taking habits more seriously and changing things thanks to the meetings. I know that when I reach my fitness goal, that I'll continue to track, or I'll gain it all back - I learned that from some of the people at WW. Getting the last 20 lbs. off has been hard for me, and myfitnesspal has been my road to success. I'm so happy with my progress.0
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I did weight watchers 3 seperate times. Lost around 20 each time.......and promptly gained 20+ each time. I found that even if something was low on points, I would have been better off eating something a little higher in points that would be healthier for me.
for me, it's all about the accountability. What I like about MFP and calorie counting, is that I can adjust for what works for me and my body. Some people have great success with Weight Watchers, others with other diet systems, some with surgery and some with exercise and diet with or with out suppliments. MFP encompasses them all and everyone can find some support and/or accountability without having to feel they are failing the system.0 -
I lost about 60 pounds on Weight Watchers before completely stalling out. I don't blame WW for the plateau, but I found that counting calories has helped break my plateau for a few reasons:
1. I was eating A LOT of fruit and veggies in addition to eating nearly all my WW points. Though fruits and veggies are 0 points, they still have calories. So I was probably eating well over my weight loss calorie goal even though I was still within my points.
2. Exercise isn't a big focus with WW and I workout a lot -- training for a half marathon, running a half marathon, cycling upwards of 20 miles at a time and strength/circuit training. MFP has a better system for tracking exercise and eating some of the calories back bust still saying at a net goal.
3. WW didn't allow me to track carbs, protein and fat in an easy way, so I have no idea if I was eating a balanced diet.
I think WW is a great tool to start with to learn how to eat better foods and incorporate more fruits and veggies, but I've found that MFP is better for someone who understands calories and nutrition and who works out a lot.
^^This exactly. (Well, except the half marathon part; I'm lucky to get in 6 miles a week.)
I lost a good bit on WW last year but then when I stalled, I was lost. Their point system is proprietary and counter-intuitive, so when I hit my plateau I couldn't figure out what went wrong and how to fix it. I was at the mercy of the point system, and of the "experts" who work at the WW center. Boy, that's a joke! They have no clue and all they do is parrot the same tired old lines we've already heard. On week 3 or 4 of my stall, one of them asked me if I was getting 2 daily servings of dairy. Not being a huge dairy fan I said no, usually just 1. So she immediately stated that was the sole reason I wasn't losing anymore. I NEEDED 2 servings of dairy every day, just like their "Good Health Guidelines" suggest. I think that was the day I finally quit.
With MFP, YOU are in control of your calories and all the other macros, mircros, whatever you want to track. Yes, that's intimidating but it's also very empowering and ultimately the best way to be successful. In some ways I liked having someone else tell me what and how much to eat, but in the end I think I always knew that I needed to take full control of the reins if I am to reach my goals.0 -
I am going to echo what many have said prior. I joined WW after my first son when I was at my heaviest and lost 30 lbs. This was almost 20 years ago. I think it was a good plan for beginners and taught me a lot about food. However, I have rejoined 3-4 times over the years and each time I found it to be harder to follow. They became more about marketing gadgets, books and food products (full of artificial ingredients) than anything. If you like to prepare your own food (as I do) it was hard to figure out points and was just too much work. Also, the leaders really vary. My first one was so inspirational and took the time to "counsel" me. Over the years I had good and bad, but it could really make the difference. Here, you are pretty much accountable to yourself, so it can be harder to stick with it. However, it gives you better/more information about food (macros) and it is free! I just showed my sister the app and she is so excited about it. She is a vegetarian and always found WW didn't cater to her tastes and lifestyle. While I think WW is way better than many of the other plans out there, for people who are more informed about nutrition and food, MFP is a better tracking tool IMO.0
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