Diet Soda (Waist size, bloated, clothes, etc!)
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Couple of questions for you That_Girl with regards to aspartame.
1) What is the chemical composition/structure of aspartame?
2) What are the metabolic degradation products of aspartame?
3) Are those products or aspartame itself present in any of the "natural" food that we eat?
4) What is the concentration of those products in things that contain aspartame versus those "natural" foods.
5) What is the dosage in mgs per kg at which aspartame is toxic in humans.
6) What is the mechanism of toxicity?
7) PK and ADME of breakdown products?
You refer to people who do not think aspartame is toxic as "living in ignorance"
Please, enlighten us.
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I can't say I ever experienced bloating or other negative side effects that I could directly attribute to my 2-liter a day diet pop habit. But when I quit drinking diet Pepsi and Coke and replaced it with ice water or unsweetened tea, I didn't crave sweets as much and was able to focus better on healthy eating.0
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Never had any of those problems while drinking diet soda. Stopped drinking diet soda (any kind of soda) around Thanksgiving. No positive or negative health effects, save a headache for a few days from caffeine withdrawal. Nothing to do with weight, bloating, acne, anything. Have recently started adding them back in. No positive or negative health effects, save the jolt the caffeine gives me that helps prevent me from snacking through the afternoon when I'm tired.
Conclusion based on findings: I have much bigger things to worry about than tinfoil hattery on the internet about diet soda.0 -
Since cutting out most fake sugars, I get headaches if I drink soda, diet or regular. Never any of the other stuff.0
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Coupled with a calorie deficit (the diet soda replaced full-sugar and allows me to eat more cals), I lost almost 30lbs, went from a 33/34" waist to a 30", got satisfactory definition all over (12% BF), and took nearly an hour off my half marathon PR (2:28 down to 1:36).
Is this what you're looking for?
ETA: I don't really want to quit either. I do enjoy soda, but the few times I've sipped full-sugar soda, it tastes very syrupy and gross. I used to be the guy who detested diet and swore I could never drink it. Kinda weird.
I agree with these sentiments. I just want a different taste then water on occasion. I like the taste better vs regular soda which tastes syrupy to me.0 -
This topic is always a "lightning rod". I really think everyone reacts to diet soda differently. I don't know if it is me being strange, but I just feel better when I don't drink a whole bunch of diet cokes and diet pepsis durinng the day.
I like the taste and feel of a diet soda and I will never give them up.
Plus, I am just talking for me, but when I drink diet soda, I tend to eat more because I don't feel "full" like I do when I sip water.
But.. I guarantee you.. around here.. it is going to be Hatfields and McCoys! :drinker: ((Runs to shoot off shotgun in the air and yell unintelligibly)0 -
Couple of questions for you That_Girl with regards to aspartame.
1) What is the chemical composition/structure of aspartame?
2) What are the metabolic degradation products of aspartame?
3) Are those products or aspartame itself present in any of the "natural" food that we eat?
4) What is the concentration of those products in things that contain aspartame versus those "natural" foods.
5) What is the dosage in mgs per kg at which aspartame is toxic in humans.
6) What is the mechanism of toxicity?
7) PK and ADME of breakdown products?
You refer to people who do not think aspartame is toxic as "living in ignorance"
Please, enlighten us.
Thanks
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When I used to drink diet coke, I sure did feel bloated and puffy and made me retain water, but I think it was actually the caffeine in the soda that did this. The reason I say this is because I'd recently started drinking caffeinated coffee and experienced water retention and bloated and puffy feelings. Once I stopped, the water weight starting dropping within a day.So I wanna start this thread to share your experience with diet sodas!
Do You/Your:
- Get Bloated
- Face Look puffy
- pants fit tighter
- find it hard to lose weight
What happened when you decreased amount or quit?
When I started drinking caffeine again, I knew better because I have always been a bit sensitive to it.
I drink Zevia sodas, which are caffeine free, and I don't have any problem with water retention.0 -
Here That_Girl, I will get you started:
Question for you. Are these weird breakdown products, lets see if I can pronounce these....phenylalainine and aspartic acid, found in any of our "natural" foods?0 -
Diet sodas are usually sweetened with aspartame which is a poison in the body.
I was hooked to diet coke about 9 years ago. I had things like acne, bloating, jaw pain, etc. I quit diet soda (and ALL aspartame) and felt better in 3 days. Acne went away within the month.
Drink water and have a real soda once in a while.
Are you part rat?
Awww, keep living in ignorance
You should probably take a good hard look at the research and when you do, consider the dosages given to the rodents in terms of mg/kg bodyweight and translate that into human doses.
Then, I would love to hear your concerns.0 -
go do some research into what chemical *kitten* storm you are drinking- I personally don't think diet soda or soda at all should be included in any healthy diet.0
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go do some research into what chemical *kitten* storm you are drinking- I personally don't think diet soda or soda at all should be included in any healthy diet.
Enlighten us on this research you speak of. I assume you read and fully comprehended an actual scientific study and not just someones blog article giving their opinion while citing a study you never actually read and most likely the person who wrote the blog never actually read either.
Because there really is nothing worse that a person who passes along a misinformed opinion of another and pretends that they actually read and understood a primary source that they never actually touched. That is pretty intellectually dishonest because it gives the false impression of scientific validity to "cite" something in the scientific literature if you didn't actually read and comprehend it and are actually referring solely to information provided by an opinion piece which you aren't citing.
Also wtf is a "chemical storm" exactly?0 -
I love Diet Coke and if I die early, so be it. I'm as addicted as anyone is to coffee and have no interest in giving it up. It hits my sweet tooth and I would never drink sugar soda (I don't have the calories to spare to drink them instead of eat them).
It doesn't make me bloat, feel bad whatever. It's just flavored water.0 -
The only noticeable affects of diet soda for me is the strong urge to cut/stab anyone who tries to come between me and my coke zero/diet barq's0
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Ugh.... I can't stand the taste and feel of all carbonated drinks, including soda. So I'm not sure if I get side effects because I can't remember the last time I drank any soda. Lol. I'd imagine I would bloat though...0
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Lost 312 lbs drinking 2 to 3 a day
Don't plan to quit anytime soon..... :drinker:0 -
I gave up diet - and all other - soda over a decade ago. noticeable results were saving money & it was a lot easier to get my water in! I was immediately pleased that I was no longer consuming the unnatural & potentially dangerous ingredients.
That's it for me! No noticeable physical improvements at all but I had no negative and noticeable side effects I was trying to get rid of. I did not expect cutting soda to help with weight loss or anything else. Thank goodness, since it did not. Eliminating diet soda and all AS was one of the first things I did when I decided to more toward natural foods.
Protip: soda IS water.
The only water I drink is ice in my diet coke.
Lol, j/k. Sometimes I drink diet dp.0 -
The only reason I have an issue with Diet Coke is that it gave me really bad acid reflux problems. I try to stay away from it but I tend to have it when I drink. I used to drink like 6 cans a day. I never drank water. Just Coke. The grocery bill is better now that my addiction to it is gone lol. But honestly if it didn't cause my esophagus to feel like it was on fire I'd be on that!0
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Diet sodas are usually sweetened with aspartame which is a poison in the body.
I was hooked to diet coke about 9 years ago. I had things like acne, bloating, jaw pain, etc. I quit diet soda (and ALL aspartame) and felt better in 3 days. Acne went away within the month.
Drink water and have a real soda once in a while.
Are you part rat?
Awww, keep living in ignorance
You should probably take a good hard look at the research and when you do, consider the dosages given to the rodents in terms of mg/kg bodyweight and translate that into human doses.
Then, I would love to hear your concerns.
I actually did this and I would need to consume 53 cans a day, everyday for a extended period of time before the dose would be in the same category as the test subjects.... I don't think my 2 or 3 a day will put me in harms way, especially with the 100+ ounces of water I drink a day on top of the Diet Pepsi..... To each their own though.... :drinker:0 -
I drink up to three diet sodas/day. I've never had any of those symptoms, not in roughly 40 years of drinking them. The only thing that I try to do when I drink them is drink an equivalent amount of plain, filtered water sometime during the day. However, I do that with anything that has caffeine in it. I don't know if it would work for anyone else, but it works for me. I always feel hydrated and haven't got acne or a single wrinkle (at the age of 53).0
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So I wanna start this thread to share your experience with diet sodas!
Do You/Your:
- Get Bloated
- Face Look puffy
- pants fit tighter
- find it hard to lose weight
What happened when you decreased amount or quit?
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No.
No.
No.
When I started drinking diet sodas, I started losing weight and have kept it off.
Diet Pepsi/Diet Dr. Pepper FTW0 -
They need to harvest my blood then because I must be immune to it after drinking it for more than 25 years daily.:laugh:Diet sodas are usually sweetened with aspartame which is a poison in the body.
It's not poison. Taken in SUPER HIGH DOSES probably isn't good though.
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Diet sodas are usually sweetened with aspartame which is a poison in the body.
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Diet sodas are usually sweetened with aspartame which is a poison in the body.
I was hooked to diet coke about 9 years ago. I had things like acne, bloating, jaw pain, etc. I quit diet soda (and ALL aspartame) and felt better in 3 days. Acne went away within the month.
Drink water and have a real soda once in a while.
Be careful. Last time I said anything about diet pop and aspartame, a gang of soda lovers jumped on me!! The last statement of your post is a winner for me.0 -
go do some research into what chemical *kitten* storm you are drinking- I personally don't think diet soda or soda at all should be included in any healthy diet.
What makes you think I haven't? If YOU don't think it should be in YOUR diet, then don't drink it and keep your baseless accusations to yourself.0 -
Couple of questions for you That_Girl with regards to aspartame.
1) What is the chemical composition/structure of aspartame?
2) What are the metabolic degradation products of aspartame?
3) Are those products or aspartame itself present in any of the "natural" food that we eat?
4) What is the concentration of those products in things that contain aspartame versus those "natural" foods.
5) What is the dosage in mgs per kg at which aspartame is toxic in humans.
6) What is the mechanism of toxicity?
7) PK and ADME of breakdown products?
You refer to people who do not think aspartame is toxic as "living in ignorance"
Please, enlighten us.
Thanks
love me some diet pepsi. i don't have any of the symptoms you've mentioned. of course i haven't lost weight with it, either. regular sodas have always tasted funny to me so i think i've pretty much always been a diet girl.0 -
Couple of questions for you That_Girl with regards to aspartame.
1) What is the chemical composition/structure of aspartame?
2) What are the metabolic degradation products of aspartame?
3) Are those products or aspartame itself present in any of the "natural" food that we eat?
4) What is the concentration of those products in things that contain aspartame versus those "natural" foods.
5) What is the dosage in mgs per kg at which aspartame is toxic in humans.
6) What is the mechanism of toxicity?
7) PK and ADME of breakdown products?
You refer to people who do not think aspartame is toxic as "living in ignorance"
Please, enlighten us.
Thanks
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Not sure if anyone posted this already.
From the UTAH PEOPLE'S POST. Diet soda cut fats, helps more than Water for Weight Loss.
http://www.utahpeoplespost.com/2014/05/diet-soda-cut-fats-helps-more-than-water-for-weight-loss/
Take note of who sponsored the study.
The study, funded by the American Beverage Association, was published in the journal Obesity.0 -
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