Let the Gains Begin!

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  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    I need more everything! Hence the bulk lol.

    Here is a taste of where I started...

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    I have come a long way, but still have a long way to go. Also, I feel like I have a great beach body... I just don't have a "traditional" beach body! ;)

    GREAT JOB!!! That's a fantastic turn around!!! I LOVE IT.

    (Beach body comment had nothing to do with you and where you were- that was purely in contect of the guy saying he didn't get the endless bulks of fat lifters.

    I'm cutting but I had 5 plain oreo's and a second glass of milk because you inspired me... :)

    and yes- those fkcers fit into my calories!!!

    SCHAWAING!
    Ohh,yeah. I knew that wasn't directed at me. I just meant that everyone has a beach body. You just take your body... to the beach! And love it!!

    And awe man, I love oreos. Oreos to me are like chips, you can't just have one bag... I kinda avoid them just because they are too damn good. I do like the quest cookies and cream bar and the Met-RX Cookie Crunch bar (both "oreo" flavored)

    NOMS!
  • daynerz
    daynerz Posts: 227 Member
    bulking in late spring????? interesting lol ....
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    Yeah, Since I'm not going for a super lean look, I don't feel the timing really matters.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Ohh,yeah. I knew that wasn't directed at me. I just meant that everyone has a beach body. You just take your body... to the beach! And love it!!

    And awe man, I love oreos. Oreos to me are like chips, you can't just have one bag... I kinda avoid them just because they are too damn good. I do like the quest cookies and cream bar and the Met-RX Cookie Crunch bar (both "oreo" flavored)

    NOMS!

    VALID!!! :)
    I'm so not a beach person- but I got it (bikini body is the same one- I see that float around- but hysterical I Never wear one- I own about a million- never wear them)

    so yeah- took me a minute.

    Nmmmmm nom nom nom- I do love my oreo's!!!

    I typically have them crushed in my ice cream- I ALWAYS leave room for ice cream- even when I'm cutting! My inner fat kid won't put up with being hungry other wise!
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    bulking in late spring????? interesting lol ....

    gains aren't seasonal
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    bulking in late spring????? interesting lol ....

    gains aren't seasonal

    yes they are... don't you know muscle growth only happens before the spring equinox... doi!!!
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    yes they are... don't you know muscle growth only happens before the spring equinox... doi!!!

    Watch out... Ima 'bout to make this summer my *****.

    [edit]] Apparently, I said a naughty. My bad.
  • CrusaderSam
    CrusaderSam Posts: 180 Member
    I think the problem comes from most peoples very unrealistic goals from just how much strength and muscle some food is going to give you. If you have been training and eating right for about 2 years the best you are going to get after that is about 4# a year. For a man that's about 5 10"-6 ft. they will max out at about 170-175# of lean body mass. For a lot of people that's a very tough pill to swallow (unlike a d-bol that's very easy to take). Most guys that have been in the iron game for a long time just see this as another form of yo-yo dieting. Anyway good luck.
  • 43mmmgoody21
    43mmmgoody21 Posts: 146 Member
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    Now that bulking has started, I thought I would share my first bedtime snack:

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    What we have here is:

    15 grain double protein bread
    crunchy peanut butter
    banana
    crunchy peanut butter
    15 grain double protein bread
    crunchy peanut butter
    strawberry jelly
    crunchy peanut butter
    15 grain double protein bread

    It was glorious.

    Looks yummy-- i'm on maintaining my weight until July 1st (then starting my bulk). Can't wait.
  • 43mmmgoody21
    43mmmgoody21 Posts: 146 Member
    770! First day on bulk after cut, so I kinda let loose a bit. This won't be an every day thing, but I did a "cheat" day on day one of bulk.

    Seemed fair.

    Why would that be a "cheat"? Looks pretty healthy to me. How many calories a day are you starting your bulk at?
  • 43mmmgoody21
    43mmmgoody21 Posts: 146 Member
    From my experience it is way more difficult to gain weight both in terms of training and diet. Losing weight is fairly quick as all you have to do is expend more calories than you take in. It may take me 6 months to a year to put on 20 lbs but only 6-12 weeks to lose that much.

    Losing weight is simple (though not necessarily easy). Gaining weight (at a rate of 2-4 pounds a month), month after month is not easy either. Gaining muscle is much harder. I can easily lose 1-2 pounds in a week but would be lucky to build 1/2 a pound of muscle in a week).
  • 43mmmgoody21
    43mmmgoody21 Posts: 146 Member
    I am definitely doing a clean bulk. Peanut butter and jelly may not seem clean, but I am not wolfing down poptart ice cream sandwiches on my bulk.

    My carbs are all coming from wheat bread, sweet potatoes, quinoa, oatmeal etc. I am trying to maintain a fairly low sugar count in my bulk (~60 grams a day).

    Once you get in your protein (about 1 gram per pound of bodyweight, assuming you are not overweight), all you need to do is fill your calories so that you are over your maintenance level. Try to gain 2-4 pounds a month. Your body composition won't care if those carbs come from ice-cream (my fav), cookies, or poptarts. Clean bulking means slow weight gain (regardless of the food source).

    EDIT:
    Looking at your picture-- you already know what you are doing. You look great.
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    770! First day on bulk after cut, so I kinda let loose a bit. This won't be an every day thing, but I did a "cheat" day on day one of bulk.

    Seemed fair.

    Why would that be a "cheat"? Looks pretty healthy to me. How many calories a day are you starting your bulk at?

    I was at ~2500 on my cut. Now I am doing about 3,500.
  • P90XBowler
    P90XBowler Posts: 152 Member
    You'll be making all kindz of Gains.. all KinDdddddddzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzssssQ
  • 43mmmgoody21
    43mmmgoody21 Posts: 146 Member
    770! First day on bulk after cut, so I kinda let loose a bit. This won't be an every day thing, but I did a "cheat" day on day one of bulk.

    Seemed fair.

    Why would that be a "cheat"? Looks pretty healthy to me. How many calories a day are you starting your bulk at?

    I was at ~2500 on my cut. Now I am doing about 3,500.


    I am smaller than you but eat around the same level. I am currently maintaining at about 3000 cals. Will bump up to 3400 in July when i start my bulk (and adjust from there)
  • waldo56
    waldo56 Posts: 1,861 Member
    Gaining fat =/= gaining muscle.

    Gaining muscle is way harder than losing weight. Cutting fat is simple after you've been bulking a while.

    I bulk for 8 weeks, cut for 2 weeks, rinse-repeat. Never lose my abs, not even close.
    I am kinda trying this, at least that was the plan but I don't know if that phase is long enough. How many times have you done this and what kind of gains are you making? I would be beyond thrilled with 10 pounds of muscle in a year, so I don't really mind going slow if it means I don't have to get too fat. I don't want to be blobby again and I like not being ashamed of taking my shirt off.

    I've done it twice now (bulked 5 times in total, first 3 were longer). I'm still hitting 2 lb/mo muscle gain with 14 months total time bulking under my belt.

    I switched to this 8/2/1 schedule in 2014, but started mid-January due to a vacation. Just starting the cut after the 2nd one, but I've already gained 8 lbs of muscle thus far this year.
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    I don't know if I can easily calculate the pound of muscle gained/fat lost. All I can say is I have muscles in places I have never seen muscles before. I am even able to see ribs right now (I didn't even know I had ribs).

    Although Waldo, you have a very good looking build for the super lean look (that I am sure you are working for), that is definitely not what I want to look like.
  • Edmond_Dantes
    Edmond_Dantes Posts: 185 Member
    I like the modified jock strap on the face
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    I like the modified jock strap on the face

    Nobody cared who I was until I put the jock strap on.
  • 1saturn
    1saturn Posts: 95 Member
    Ugh, I wish my goal was weight gain and not weight loss!
  • Edmond_Dantes
    Edmond_Dantes Posts: 185 Member
    I like the modified jock strap on the face

    Nobody cared who I was until I put the jock strap on.

    That's awesome!
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    Ugh, I wish my goal was weight gain and not weight loss!

    I was on weight loss goals for a couple years to get to this point! Lift dem weights to get whooge!
  • __freckles__
    __freckles__ Posts: 1,238 Member
    In fairness i was talking about the general concept of gaining or losing weight, it is much harder to lose weight than put it on, not a guess or a stab in the dark just a fact, the world is full of dieters or overweight people, those who struggle to gain weight in comparison is small, some bro science gym boys maybe the exception but they are hardly representative

    You have the wrong audience here me thinks...

    Word.
  • __freckles__
    __freckles__ Posts: 1,238 Member
    Ugh, I wish my goal was weight gain and not weight loss!

    It will be. Just keep at it. Then you can build all the sexy muscle. :tongue:
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    Ugh, I wish my goal was weight gain and not weight loss!

    It will be. Just keep at it. Then you can build all the sexy muscle. :tongue:

    Dat kitten is gonna be huuge too! Lmao! Love the avatar!
  • __freckles__
    __freckles__ Posts: 1,238 Member
    Ugh, I wish my goal was weight gain and not weight loss!

    It will be. Just keep at it. Then you can build all the sexy muscle. :tongue:

    Dat kitten is gonna be huuge too! Lmao! Love the avatar!

    :wink:
  • cwoyto123
    cwoyto123 Posts: 308
    3000 calories a day aint bulking.
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    3000 calories a day aint bulking.

    I'm trying to do a slow clean bulk. I'm not gonna shove Oreos in just for the sake of out

    Plus I'm on 3500 ish.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    3000 calories a day aint bulking.

    I'm trying to do a slow clean bulk. I'm not gonna shove Oreos in just for the sake of out

    Plus I'm on 3500 ish.

    hermmmm cutting.

    I must be doing it wrong then- because I'm all about shoving oreos' just for the sake of oreos

    :love:
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    great thread, great progress, great pics :smile:

    I'd say the absolute calorie number is not the determinant of if he is bulking or not. If that amount is enough to gain then that is bulking.

    And LOL at the perpetually overweight lifters comment. Coming from a powerlifters gym, I can tell you they are in the minority if they want to do well. As an example my mate just got dexa's at 7.8%BF at 74kg BW. Currently the strongest 75kg guy in Australia.

    The only ones this really applies to is the SHW class where all mass is good mass basically.

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