Let the Gains Begin!

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  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    3000 calories a day aint bulking.

    I'm trying to do a slow clean bulk. I'm not gonna shove Oreos in just for the sake of out

    Plus I'm on 3500 ish.

    hermmmm cutting.

    I must be doing it wrong then- because I'm all about shoving oreos' just for the sake of oreos

    :love:

    I don't think you are doing it all wrong lol. Just do me a favor... have an oreo for me will ya? ;)

    chrisdavey, you said it perfectly. If 3500 is enough to gain weight, it is a bulk lol. And that is just where I am starting on week one. If I find I am not gaining enough, I can always up it. I just didn't want to start day one of week one at 5k cals.
  • Elektrolyfe
    Elektrolyfe Posts: 151 Member
    3000 calories a day aint bulking.

    Depends on the person.
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    My diary is open, so if you guys want to take a look at it, feel free to peruse through it and offer any suggestions/thoughts etc.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    My diary is open, so if you guys want to take a look at it, feel free to peruse through it and offer any suggestions/thoughts etc.

    I personally like to keep fats to a max of around 25% of total calories. I love my carbs :smile: A few days I saw are at around 40%. If you don't eat a lot of volume you may have an issue fitting it all in though.

    Don't forget your veggies :smile:
  • shmerek
    shmerek Posts: 963 Member
    3000 calories a day aint bulking.
    That would be fat assed bulking for me
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    My diary is open, so if you guys want to take a look at it, feel free to peruse through it and offer any suggestions/thoughts etc.

    I personally like to keep fats to a max of around 25% of total calories. I love my carbs :smile: A few days I saw are at around 40%. If you don't eat a lot of volume you may have an issue fitting it all in though.

    Don't forget your veggies :smile:

    Hey, thanks! Right now I am about 30-35% Down the line Protein, carbs and fats. When I was on my cut, I was on a low carb plan so my prtoein and fats were in the 40% range with carbs at 20%.

    However, with that, I might adjust my protein up a little and fat down. (or maybe carbs up and fats down?) I'm 200 pounds right now taking in about 250 grams of protein a day.

    Veggies are always the hardest for me to get in. Although it is alot better now. Thanks for the prompt. Always need to hear stuff like that!
  • cwoyto123
    cwoyto123 Posts: 308
    3000 calories a day aint bulking.

    I'm trying to do a slow clean bulk. I'm not gonna shove Oreos in just for the sake of out

    Plus I'm on 3500 ish.

    hermmmm cutting.

    I must be doing it wrong then- because I'm all about shoving oreos' just for the sake of oreos

    :love:
    Too much fat, no thanks jeff
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Think I"m on a 40/40/20 split- so I'm okay with higher fats- I typically don't hit that- I am finding I hit closer to 40/30/30.. either way- still looking good so I'm okay.

    Life's too short to not eat oreos or ice cream!
    Veggies are always the hardest for me to get in. Although it is alot better now. Thanks for the prompt. Always need to hear stuff like that!
    invest in those steamables when they go on sale- I can eat a whole bag in one sitting- toss a half tablespoon of butter on them and S/P and good to go.

    Love them things.
  • ValGogo
    ValGogo Posts: 2,168 Member
    Wow, you all are CRAY-ZAY! In a good way, though.

    I guess if I stick around long enough I will understand the lingo. Let's see if I get to the "I'm at my goal size and now I'd like to see more abs" phase. I'm sure by that time I will have finished reading Starting Strength and will understand some of the lingo better.
  • waldo56
    waldo56 Posts: 1,861 Member
    3000 calories a day aint bulking.

    I'm trying to do a slow clean bulk. I'm not gonna shove Oreos in just for the sake of out

    Plus I'm on 3500 ish.

    There is very little difference in cleanliness between slow bulking and moderate bulking.

    To actually clean bulk you need to get into the carb cycling and depletion workouts, go even slower, and hope it works at all.
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    I should clarify then. I'm trying to maintain a "low" sugar bulk.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    I should clarify then. I'm trying to maintain a "low" sugar bulk.

    any particular reason?

    Sugary carbs are typically the least satiating and when you need cals can be a good choice to get them in easily. I would prefer the sugary carbs over excess dietary fat actually.
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    Im trying to avoid excess weight gain I suppose. Also trying to minimize affects to my blood sugar. Although, by the looks of your avatar, you know what you are talking about!
  • waldo56
    waldo56 Posts: 1,861 Member
    Im trying to avoid excess weight gain I suppose. Also trying to minimize affects to my blood sugar. Although, by the looks of your avatar, you know what you are talking about!

    Insulin is the most anabolic hormone.

    Insulin spikes = growth.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    Im trying to avoid excess weight gain I suppose. Also trying to minimize affects to my blood sugar. Although, by the looks of your avatar, you know what you are talking about!

    Haha thanks mate.

    This is my take on the "clean" bulk. http://cdnutritionandfitness.com/clean-vs-dirty-bulking/

    It could be a good idea to get a fasting blood glucose check to see your insulin sensitivity. "Most" people who are at a healthy BF level and do resistance training should be rather insulin sensitive and basically handle carbs well. For those who are insulin resistant, then it can be a good idea to cut down on the carbs (and sugars) and increase the fats. (This is mainly while cutting from the research I've seen though, never seen a study done on the same thing for gaining weight)
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Im trying to avoid excess weight gain I suppose. Also trying to minimize affects to my blood sugar. Although, by the looks of your avatar, you know what you are talking about!

    Insulin is the most anabolic hormone.

    Insulin spikes = growth.

    Which is why lots of post workout supplements contain sugars. Also, there are many nutrition plans out there that encourage eating certain candies (gummy bears and pixi sticks) around workouts. I know Jim Stoppani encourages it in his plans.
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    Im trying to avoid excess weight gain I suppose. Also trying to minimize affects to my blood sugar. Although, by the looks of your avatar, you know what you are talking about!

    Haha thanks mate.

    This is my take on the "clean" bulk. http://cdnutritionandfitness.com/clean-vs-dirty-bulking/

    It could be a good idea to get a fasting blood glucose check to see your insulin sensitivity. "Most" people who are at a healthy BF level and do resistance training should be rather insulin sensitive and basically handle carbs well. For those who are insulin resistant, then it can be a good idea to cut down on the carbs (and sugars) and increase the fats. (This is mainly while cutting from the research I've seen though, never seen a study done on the same thing for gaining weight)

    When I was incredibly over weight (340 lbs) I had high blood sugar that was in the pre diabetes range. Now, since the weight loss/fitness training my blood sugar is back in to quite a normal range. I'm just trying to avoid too much damage. I'm going back in for a check up next month, which will be right in the middle of the bulk so the labs should be a good indicator on how I'm doing.

    I'm also not avoiding all sugars. I get between 60-100g a day.
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    Im trying to avoid excess weight gain I suppose. Also trying to minimize affects to my blood sugar. Although, by the looks of your avatar, you know what you are talking about!

    Haha thanks mate.

    This is my take on the "clean" bulk. http://cdnutritionandfitness.com/clean-vs-dirty-bulking/

    It could be a good idea to get a fasting blood glucose check to see your insulin sensitivity. "Most" people who are at a healthy BF level and do resistance training should be rather insulin sensitive and basically handle carbs well. For those who are insulin resistant, then it can be a good idea to cut down on the carbs (and sugars) and increase the fats. (This is mainly while cutting from the research I've seen though, never seen a study done on the same thing for gaining weight)

    When I was incredibly over weight (340 lbs) I had high blood sugar that was in the pre diabetes range. Now, since the weight loss/fitness training my blood sugar is back in to quite a normal range. I'm just trying to avoid too much damage. I'm going back in for a check up next month, which will be right in the middle of the bulk so the labs should be a good indicator on how I'm doing.

    I'm also not avoiding all sugars. I get between 60-100g a day.

    That's more than likely why you were in the pre diabetes range.
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    Im trying to avoid excess weight gain I suppose. Also trying to minimize affects to my blood sugar. Although, by the looks of your avatar, you know what you are talking about!

    Haha thanks mate.

    This is my take on the "clean" bulk. http://cdnutritionandfitness.com/clean-vs-dirty-bulking/

    It could be a good idea to get a fasting blood glucose check to see your insulin sensitivity. "Most" people who are at a healthy BF level and do resistance training should be rather insulin sensitive and basically handle carbs well. For those who are insulin resistant, then it can be a good idea to cut down on the carbs (and sugars) and increase the fats. (This is mainly while cutting from the research I've seen though, never seen a study done on the same thing for gaining weight)

    When I was incredibly over weight (340 lbs) I had high blood sugar that was in the pre diabetes range. Now, since the weight loss/fitness training my blood sugar is back in to quite a normal range. I'm just trying to avoid too much damage. I'm going back in for a check up next month, which will be right in the middle of the bulk so the labs should be a good indicator on how I'm doing.

    I'm also not avoiding all sugars. I get between 60-100g a day.

    That's more than likely why you were in the pre diabetes range.

    You are probably right. Still don't want to push the limits.
  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
    In, for the oreos and awesome samiches
  • mank32
    mank32 Posts: 1,323 Member
    :creeps:
  • 43mmmgoody21
    43mmmgoody21 Posts: 146 Member
    In, for the oreos and awesome samiches

    Great idea!

    Just finished my workout-- going to have some ice-cream and oreos!
  • winonavampire
    winonavampire Posts: 68 Member
    :creeps:

    Oh, you think the darkness is your ally?

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